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Old April 18th, 2007, 09:44 PM   #1
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World's Tallest Cities 2007 Ranking Update

Ultrapolis Project's Tallest Cities of the World has updated its rankings for 2007, showing Dubai climbing from 10th as of Dec 31, 2005 to 6th as of Dec 31, 2006.

http://ultrapolisproject.com/ultrapo...nes_cities.htm
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Old May 2nd, 2007, 08:45 PM   #2
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The skyline ranking on emporis is based on allotting points for each building in cities based on floors. Here is the top 20:

1. Hong Kong
2. New York City
3. Seoul
4. Chicago
5. Singapore
6. Shanghai
7. Sao Paolo
8. Bangkok
9. Tokyo
10. Guangzhou
11. Toronto
12. Chongqing
13. Shenzhen
14. Beijing
15. Kuala Lumpur
16. Rio de Janeiro
17. Moscow
18. Dubai
19. Sydney
20. Jakarta
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Old May 2nd, 2007, 08:55 PM   #3
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I don't know about ultrapolisproject.com, but I know that there is a lot missing from Emporis
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Old May 4th, 2007, 04:04 AM   #4
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I don´t like this list, there are many cities I consider should be there, and others that don´t.
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Old May 4th, 2007, 04:09 AM   #5
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Old May 4th, 2007, 06:10 AM   #6
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I don't know about ultrapolisproject.com, but I know that there is a lot missing from Emporis
Emporis is a very well respected resource for business leaders and government. Lists should be taken as guides. You make a good point though.

I do know that Toronto's numbers are for the central city of 2.5 million, not the for Metro Toronto city of 6.2 million. Upwards of 70% of the high rises in Toronto over the last 20 years have been built in the outer suburbs due to low property taxes and land values there. These are not counted in Toronto's figures. I doubt the Canadian National Tower was included either despite its height at 1815 feet.

What is missing in your opinion besides the boundary issues of a city?
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Old May 7th, 2007, 01:36 PM   #7
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Heh, Dubai is like STAR WARS movie plan It's more than probably, that in 5 years time Dubai will before NYC ;P
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Old May 7th, 2007, 05:26 PM   #8
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Emporis Vs. Ultrapolis

Emporis does not rank cities strictly by height, and I think even they will admit that. They rank cities by something more subjective as "visual impact," or at least that is what they say. That's why some cities like Sao Paulo, which don't have hardly any supertalls, rank so high on the list. Sao Paulo does look impressive, but once you start measuring actual building heights, they are not that tall.

By the way, I too have noticed that some buildings are missing from the Emporis site.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 12:33 AM   #9
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So what, could I build 750 000 three foot buildings and be in the top spot?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:48 AM   #10
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So what, could I build 750 000 three foot buildings and be in the top spot?
Haha, you'd have to be quite short!

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Emporis does not rank cities strictly by height, and I think even they will admit that. They rank cities by something more subjective as "visual impact," or at least that is what they say. That's why some cities like Sao Paulo, which don't have hardly any supertalls, rank so high on the list. Sao Paulo does look impressive, but once you start measuring actual building heights, they are not that tall.

By the way, I too have noticed that some buildings are missing from the Emporis site.
Emporis does NOT rank cities by height, but by the number of stories a building has. Buildings with less than a certain number of stories (10 or 20, I forget) are not counted.

Buildings are allotted points, which rise more or less exponentially with increasing number of stories. (eg 11-20 stories get 1 point, 21-30 stories get 5 points, 31-40 stories get 15 points, etc.)
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Old May 10th, 2007, 07:32 AM   #11
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^ Through such a point system we can deduce the overall prominence and hi-rise density of a city. Stories rather than height is a better calculative unit since its the habitable units that make up a city, not antennas or spires.
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Old May 11th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #12
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It´s strange, in Europe we haven´t a large larea and we build low buildings and other continents that have a lot of lands, it builds high high skyscrapers. World is crazy.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 04:46 AM   #13
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So what, could I build 750 000 three foot buildings and be in the top spot?
First of all it's a guide, and secondly, the minimum floors to register on the emporis skyline ranking is 12-19 floors. This minimum scores 1 pt. As far as visual impact goes, the list is fairly representative of this. You are obviously commenting on a site you know little of, otherwise you'd be aware of how the list is tabulated.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 05:36 AM   #14
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this discussion has totally digressed from the original topic of the tallest cities in the world, ranked by the heights of the ten tallest from each city.

The emporis rankings have nothing to do with this topic.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #15
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The skyline ranking on emporis is based on allotting points for each building in cities based on floors. Here is the top 20:

1. Hong Kong
2. New York City
3. Seoul
4. Chicago
5. Singapore
6. Shanghai
7. Sao Paolo
8. Bangkok
9. Tokyo
10. Guangzhou
11. Toronto
12. Chongqing
13. Shenzhen
14. Beijing
15. Kuala Lumpur
16. Rio de Janeiro
17. Moscow
18. Dubai
19. Sydney
20. Jakarta
Wow, such a huge difference between Ultrapolis and Emporis' listings. Just look at Houston, for example. Ultrapolis has it a #7, while Emporis has it at 23rd!
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Old May 13th, 2007, 09:34 PM   #16
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where is Lisbon in that ranking??
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Old May 15th, 2007, 06:30 AM   #17
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TOTALLY RUBISH!!!1
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Old May 15th, 2007, 07:25 AM   #18
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São Paulo e Rio De Janeiro
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Old May 15th, 2007, 02:51 PM   #19
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shanghai rank 4th , nice..............
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Old May 16th, 2007, 02:51 AM   #20
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Nouvelle-Ecosse:

I believe the huge discrepancy between Emporis and Ultrapolis in Houston's ranking comes down to the fact that Houston has many very tall office buildings, whereas these other cities have these tall buildings plus hundreds and in some cases, thousands, of shorter but still tall buildings.

The building stock in Houston in the 12-50 storey range is not as bountiful as in some other cities.
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