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Old November 23rd, 2016, 05:24 PM   #2181
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Why is RZD using a stock image of Berlin Hauptbahnhof if the train departs from the Ostbahnhof?

And what's with the 45 minute stop in Terespol (?)? Gauge changing is done in Brest, right?
В Тересполе проводится пограничный и таможенный контроль Польши.
РЖД не тот вокзал разместило на картинке?

In Terespol is carried out border and customs control of Poland.
The Railways station is incorrectly placed in the picture?
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Old November 30th, 2016, 07:04 PM   #2182
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Old November 30th, 2016, 11:28 PM   #2183
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Nice video, thnx Kvin!
I was traveling once on Circumbaikal line, and have to say that the line is beautiful!

When the second track on the line was removed? And also, are any part of the line between station Baikal and Irkutsk visible?

Thnx!
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Old December 1st, 2016, 02:15 AM   #2184
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I did the trip between Irkutsk and Port Baïkal by river boat à few years ago. I did not notice any remnant of a railway on the river bank. I think that the level of river Angara rose too much to leave anything visible.

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Old December 17th, 2016, 11:27 PM   #2185
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Inauguration of connections from Berlin to Moscow wagons with automatic system to change the wheelbase

Start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZmE4p2qZlA

Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjT7QGCs1rA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81gOsYsjcVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ARqmoGRWQ

Belarus (Brest) - change the wheelbase:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_mt7FHGtpI
Talgo System in Brest - promo movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6LXFXzMNVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T858q7P3UFQ

Poland (Warsaw):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ILvxS2EBVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gvPj6KOJiA

Germany (Berlin) - after 20 hours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmHNMOssfMY
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Old December 20th, 2016, 08:29 PM   #2186
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Talgo Hotel Trains

In this image, probably from a Russian station, you can appreciate the enormous distance that separates the platform from the box of the Talgo trailers.


This is because the trains will be able to change width, but only have one measures, and each one will be the most restrictive of those of the gauge of the four countries that cross the Strizh trains. In this case they have a normal box: 2942 mm of maximum width.





In Russia they have a smaller width than the Iberian but, due to being a little mountainous country and having a network with few tunnels, its gauge is very wide: the Velaro Rus has 3.265 mm, 65 more than the Avril. Apart from the Nordic countries (the Oaris for Norway will be no less than 3,300 mm), China, Shinkansen and others, this also occurs in Kazakhstan (logical) and in India; The second Kazakh series has a wide box (3,200 mm) and the only complaint in India has been the "narrowness" of the Talgo IV and, therefore, it did not have 3 + 2 seats.

Well, worse is in the UK where, in large part of the network, after war of the widths, inherited the gauge Stephenson, which forces that the trains normally have only about 2,730 mm.


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Old December 20th, 2016, 09:21 PM   #2187
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In Russia they have a smaller width than the Iberian but, due to being a little mountainous country and having a network with few tunnels, its gauge is very wide: the Velaro Rus has 3.265 mm,
Well, this is still pretty moderate as Desiro RUS is 3480 mm wide and so does basically all EMUs in 1520 mm gauge. Even Stadler double deck EMUs for Aeroexpress are 3,4 m wide


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The second Kazakh series has a wide box (3,200 mm) and the only complaint in India has been the "narrowness" of the Talgo IV and, therefore, it did not have 3 + 2 seats.
The track gauge doesn't really correspond with loading gauge. The 3,2 m wide cars under 1-VM clearance were up till recently allowed on East European networks but those gradually are withdrawing from that because of distance between rolling stock build to European rules and platform edge to the wider standard which practically isn't in use
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Old December 22nd, 2016, 10:07 PM   #2188
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What are the prices for Moscow-Berlin Talgo train?
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 04:40 PM   #2189
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What are the prices for Moscow-Berlin Talgo train?
Sitting - 10773 RUB = 168.47 EUR
De Luxe sleeping - 51960 RUB = 812.56 EUR
2-сl. sleeping compt. - 12402 RUB = 193.94 EUR
1-сl. sleeping compt. - 17209 RUB = 269.12 EUR
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 06:22 PM   #2190
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Sitting - 10773 RUB = 168.47 EUR
De Luxe sleeping - 51960 RUB = 812.56 EUR
2-сl. sleeping compt. - 12402 RUB = 193.94 EUR
1-сl. sleeping compt. - 17209 RUB = 269.12 EUR
comparable to airplanes, I would personally choose train, because of unlimited luggage, convenient locations of central railway stations and maybe because of already slightly forgotten traveling feeling not noticeable in the airplanes.
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 08:01 PM   #2191
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comparable to airplanes, I would personally choose train, because of unlimited luggage, convenient locations of central railway stations and maybe because of already slightly forgotten traveling feeling not noticeable in the airplanes.
And experience “kindness and gentleness” of Russian border control after founding out that Belarusian/Russian border is now internal Nooo, I chose plane instead - faster, cheaper and more ... legal Very long distance sleeping trains are thing of a past and RZD is constantly failing to understand that. They have bought hundreds of RIC sleeping cars and half of them is now used on broad gauge connections because there simply isn't demand for such services anymore, the only way forward is investing heavily into high speed services
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 09:48 PM   #2192
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At the Berlin-Moscow route you will have border control just once, at Polish-Belorussian border.
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 10:29 PM   #2193
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At the Berlin-Moscow route you will have border control just once, at Polish-Belorussian border.
Just read text in this link, it was discussed few posts above, one quote from that:

"The Border Committee failed to comment why the EU citizens had been banned from entering the Russian Federation through Belarus."
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 10:35 PM   #2194
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isn't it unrelated to railways?
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 11:14 PM   #2195
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So tell that to those at least two documented examples where EU citizens were taken out of train and charged with illegal border crossing requiring embassy intervention. This topic was discussed roughly month ago and is on previous page of this thread. Basically nothing has changed, there isn't any new agreement and you are effectively travelling at your own risk.
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 11:24 PM   #2196
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Could you be more specific and provide details about those two supposedly proven examples ? I also researched this subject and could not find any hard data, just a few press communiqués all citing each other. And nothing at all about rail travellers .

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Old December 23rd, 2016, 11:33 PM   #2197
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If you want to go to Russia you require Russian visa, Belorussian one doesn't work, I don't know how it actually works, since there is no border control between Russia and Belarus
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Could you be more specific and provide details about those two supposedly proven examples ? I also researched this subject and could not find any hard data, just a few press communiqués all citing each other. And nothing at all about rail travellers .
This article in Polish states:

"Odnotowano dwa przypadki przesłuchań polskich obywateli udających się do Rosji pociągiem „Polonez”, którym postawiono zarzut nielegalnego przekroczenia granicy białorusko-rosyjskiej. W obu przypadkach Ambasada RP podjęła stosowną interwencję w rosyjskim MSZ – poinformowało nas biuro prasowe Ministerstwa Spraw Zagranicznych."

Translated into English:
"There have been two cases of hearings Polish citizens traveling to Russia by train "Polonez", charged of illegal crossing of the Belarusian-Russian border. In both cases, the Embassy has taken appropriate intervention in the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs - told us the press office of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs."

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If you want to go to Russia you require Russian visa, Belorussian one doesn't work, I don't know how it actually works, since there is no border control between Russia and Belaru
First one who described this problem in English was Deutsche Welle which regarding that matter states:


"In response to a DW inquiry, Russian border officials said that EU citizens who took a train or bus to Russia must carry a passport that contains a rubber stamp allowing them to cross the border to Russia. In the future, entry via Belarus will be regarded as an offense subject to a fine from 29-100 euros ($32 to $110) and deportation."


Problem is that You can't get rubber stamp on a train because there isn't any Russian border control on the way, earlier transit visa acted as proof of border crossing.
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Old December 24th, 2016, 12:06 AM   #2199
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according to this, all non-russians can't cross the borders using buses or trains. Is it right?
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In theory yes it does mean that but in reality most affected are car users, truck drivers and passengers of busses (here are many examples of failed journeys). In theory it implies also to railways but in reality train is in gray area as most journeys are made without problems using Belarusian transit visa but if You will encounter stiff control than things can rapidly go wrong. Most definitely number to Your embassy won't be a bad idea if You plan to use that route
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