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Old August 5th, 2006, 11:37 PM   #21
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Some trains seems to have still some soviet look, but some are damn good looking.

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First of all ... Why in that map that shows the railway network Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania is still like a part of Russia (just like Belarus, Ukraine)???
I think it just shows the countries that can be reached from Russia by train easily because the Russian 1524 gauge.

Btw. This tiny "article" is from Swedish "Metro" newspapers:

It basically says: "3 hours. The new train which is planned by Finland and Russia would operate so quickly between Helsinki and St. Petersburg. Today the same trip takes 5,5 hours."

Do you know something about this project, coth? Seems like that ICE train will be used in Russia's internal traffic though.
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Old August 5th, 2006, 11:54 PM   #22
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I think you one of those who does not accept anything modern.
Indeed EP10 looks outdated, while all other looks very modern and very successful.
No similarity between 2ES4K and Bombadier Traxx and the Siemens ES64F4 at all... No egg effect as well. No even long faces.
I think you mean high faces. But i think it's result of higher platforms in Russia.
Also. Powerful faces looks definitely better for powerful locos.
I love modern trains, but not these, the same goes for for some new Chinese trains. They just haven't got that something special that makes other trains beautiful. For example the Swiss Re 460 build by ABB (now Bombadier) and SLM and the Flirt build by Stadler Rail. The Siemens ES64U2 Taurus design is also very good, all these trains have German, Swiss or Italian designers and look much better. I understand that the Russian Railways don't have much money to spend, just look at the interior of the IC it's just very plain compared with the German version.

BTW, some powerfull loco's that look good!
~SBB Re 620 : one-hour power rating: 7.832 kW. Simple design, but it looks powerfull (my favorite).
~DB 103: one-hour power rating: 7.780 kW, maximum power rating: 10400 kW. Best loco design ever, period.
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Old August 6th, 2006, 12:45 AM   #23
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I love modern trains, but not these, the same goes for for some new Chinese trains. They just haven't got that something special that makes other trains beautiful. For example the Swiss Re 460 build by ABB (now Bombadier) and SLM and the Flirt build by Stadler Rail. The Siemens ES64U2 Taurus design is also very good, all these trains have German, Swiss or Italian designers and look much better. I understand that the Russian Railways don't have much money to spend, just look at the interior of the IC it's just very plain compared with the German version.
this is not a good design for loco. more like for emu... but not for loco.

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BTW, some powerfull loco's that look good!
~SBB Re 620 : one-hour power rating: 7.832 kW. Simple design, but it looks powerfull (my favorite).
~DB 103: one-hour power rating: 7.780 kW, maximum power rating: 10400 kW. Best loco design ever, period.
oh come on - it's 60's...
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Old August 6th, 2006, 12:48 AM   #24
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Some trains seems to have still some soviet look, but some are damn good looking.



I think it just shows the countries that can be reached from Russia by train easily because the Russian 1524 gauge.

Btw. This tiny "article" is from Swedish "Metro" newspapers:

It basically says: "3 hours. The new train which is planned by Finland and Russia would operate so quickly between Helsinki and St. Petersburg. Today the same trip takes 5,5 hours."

Do you know something about this project, coth? Seems like that ICE train will be used in Russia's internal traffic though.
well, there is mention about it in my first post. pendolino is currently on tests on shcherbinka ring. rzd is going to build new freight line parallel to current. then current line will be upgraded. high speed service will be opened in 2009.
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this is not a good design for loco. more like for emu... but not for loco.
Come on, the 460 and the Taurus are the best looking modern locos right now. They have their own look that give them their own identity, unlike those new Russian locos.

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oh come on - it's 60's...
...70's, and they don't make that powerful locos anymore.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 08:37 PM   #26
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By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow
Last Updated: 1:57am BST 20/04/2007



The Kremlin is considering reviving a 19th century dream of linking Russia and the United States by building the world's longest railway tunnel under the Bering Strait.




Government ministers will analyse a pre-feasibility study prepared by the Russian Academy of Sciences at a conference in Moscow next week. Despite its vast cost - estimated to be in the region of £32.5 billion - the project's authors are confident of securing the backing of both the Russian and the American governments.

"This is one of the very few projects that can cardinally change the development of Russia's far east," said Viktor Razbegin, the deputy head of research at the economy ministry. "The chance for the implementation now is pretty good."

Mr Razbegin claimed that in 1998 the United States, Russia and Canada were close to a deal when it had to be abandoned because of the rouble crash.

In fact, there have been many proposals to link eastern Russia and Alaska.

In 1890, the governor of Colorado, William Gilpin, envisaged a bridge across the Bering Strait, an idea that was revived - and put to one side - in the 1940s.

It came up again in the 1960s as part of a massive project, which also included a bridge across the Strait of Gibraltar, to link five continents. The dreams were all stillborn, and it is not hard to see why. The Bering Strait is one of the world's most inhospitable locations.

Mr Razbegin's proposed 60-mile-long tunnel - which would surface twice on the Diomede islands halfway across the strait - is twice the length of the Channel tunnel. Yet that, in some ways, is the easy bit. The nearest major road to the tunnel's proposed Russian entry point, at Provideniya, is 1,000 miles away.

Alaska has no direct rail link to either Canada or the rest of the United States. This would mean building a 3,700 mile-long line between Yakutsk in Siberia and Fort Nelson in British Columbia.

Despite the obvious challenges, Mr Razbegin was upbeat yesterday.

"The trans-Siberian railway is 9,200 km [5,700 miles] and took Russia just seven years to build single handed," he said, estimating that the project would take about 12 years to complete.

According to the plans, the tunnel would carry both rail passengers and cargo. It would also carry electricity and fibre-optic cables, while an oil and gas pipeline could be laid, if the governments agreed.

It is unclear, however, who would fund the project. Thanks to booming oil prices and vastly improved energy production, the Russian government is much wealthier than it was during the economic turmoil of the late 1990s. A transport link would boost trade further.

There have been suggestions that the Kremlin could also seek financial support from Roman Abramovich, the owner of Chelsea football club, who is governor of Chukotka, the remote region where the tunnel would begin.

But most analysts say it would be much harder to find American backers from the private sector willing to invest in so risky a project.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 08:40 PM   #27
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Sorry, it was already posted. I thought i will be in railroad section so only checked this part of the forum.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 08:41 PM   #28
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There already is a forum from this topic in Infrastructure and Mobility.
Lets keep this "pie in the sky" idea to one forum
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Old April 20th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #29
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There already is a forum from this topic in Infrastructure and Mobility.
Lets keep this "pie in the sky" idea to one forum
Yeah, let's move here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=464566
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Old April 6th, 2008, 08:17 PM   #30
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RUSSIA | Railways

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Russland will Transsibirische Eisenbahn bis nach Wien verlängern

Der Chef der russischen Eisenbahnen RZD, Wladimir Jakunin, will Zentraleuropa mit der Transsibirischen Eisenbahn verbinden. Eine entsprechende Absichtserklärung zwischen Russland, der Ukraine, der Slowakei und Österreich soll heute in Wien unterzeichnet werden.
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Die russische Breitspurbahn soll von Kosice an der slowakisch-ukrainischen Grenze bis nach Bratislava und Wien verlängert werden. Der russische Bahnchef Wladimir Jakunin schätzt den Investitionsbedarf laut "Ria Nowosti" auf bis zu drei Milliarden US-Dollar. Die russische Zeitung "Nesawisimaja Gaseta" berichtete, dass die Strecke bis nach Südosteuropa gebaut werden könnte.
http://www.wirtschaftsblatt.at/home/.../home/index.do

Russia wants to extend Trans-Siberian Railway to Vienna

The head of Russian Railways RZD, Wladimir Jakunin, wants to connect central Europe with the trans-siberian railway. An acordant declaration of intent between Russia, Ukraine, Slowakia and Austria will be signed today in Vienna.

The russian broad gauge railway would be extended from Kosice at the slowakian-ukrainian border to Bratislava and Vienna. Russia's head of railways Wladimir Jakunin estimates the investment needs to up to 3 Billion US-Dollars. The Russian newspaper "Nesawisimaja Gaseta" reportet, that the tracks might be extended to Southern-Eastern-Europe.


Really interesting plan!
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Old April 6th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #31
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Pointless. They could just use those fancy trains that can change gauge in seconds.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:13 PM   #32
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In seconds? When I've travelled to Barcelona with a Talgo train it took quite some time. However time wouldn't necessarily be an issue with freight trains - and this is aimed at freight transportation, not passenger transportation, as far as I understood.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #33
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I meant this:
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Old April 7th, 2008, 03:54 PM   #34
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That looks cool!
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Old April 7th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #35
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System SUW 2000 works well on lines connecting Poland and Lithuania since 1999 and Poland - Ukraine since 2003. There are already developed bogies for passenger and cargo trains. http://iovg.cumed-fileserver.de/26_vortrag11.pdf Slides 6-11, 18-20. No need to invest is hundreds of kms of new track, just mount the device, very similar to posted in #4.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 05:00 PM   #36
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In seconds?

http://www.caf.net/ingles/id/brava.php


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The Self-Propelled Variable Gauge Rolling Truck (BRAVA)

developed by CAF, allows rail vehicles to adapt to any track gauge, whilst traveling and in just 3 seconds.

Just by replacing the old trucks with the BRAVA ones, trains presently in service can be transformed into variable gauge wheelset trains and run at speeds of up to 275 Km/h.

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Amazing. And what a big deal for gauge width? With such mega device building new line is useless. Just upgrade needed number of cars with such wheels and place this mega devices where tracks changes.
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Old April 8th, 2008, 12:03 AM   #38
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The question is, do locos/freight waggons exist for this technology or only EMUs? And is it cheaper to construct this new railway or exchange all your rolling stock?
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Train to Moscow Airport Cuts Trip to 35 Minutes From `Eternity'

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Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov opened a new rail link to Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, cutting the journey time to the ``long-suffering'' terminal to 35 minutes.

The journey by road from the city center to Sheremetyevo through Moscow's choked traffic can now take ``anything from two hours to eternity,'' state television station Vesti-24 reported. A taxi ride can cost $100. Tickets for the Sheremetyevo train, described by Ivanov as a ``comfortable and convenient means of transportation,'' will cost 200 rubles, or about $8.50.

``Now we won't have to spend ages driving on the long- suffering'' Leningradskoe Shosse, spend money on ``gypsy cabs'' or strain our ``precious nerves to get to the airport,'' Ivanov said today in comments posted on Vesti's Web site.

Moscow's Savyolovsky station has been upgraded to serve Sheremetyevo, where the international terminal was built before the 1980 Olympic Games and is now out of date. As a result, many international airlines have switched to another airport, Domodedovo, which overtook Sheremetyevo in passenger numbers in 2005 and is already served by a non-stop train from central Moscow. A new international terminal at Sheremetyevo is under construction.

Sheremetyevo is the last of Moscow's three main international airports to be linked by rail to the city center.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 01:25 AM   #40
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Very nice. Soon all airports of Moscow will be connected by rail too !
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