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Old February 15th, 2013, 01:33 AM   #1881
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I guess that's good news - as long as passengers don't have to carry luggage up and down the stairs inside the train
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Old February 15th, 2013, 02:01 PM   #1882
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Will these be the first double deck trains in Russia?
Doubledeckers are manufactured in Russia since a while, and there are plans to use them more actively.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #1883
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I guess that's good news - as long as passengers don't have to carry luggage up and down the stairs inside the train
Well, the stairs within the carriage are just nothing compared to those you will
have to climb, up and down, to go over the tracks if your train does not arrive
on Platform one at Moscow Bielorusskaia.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #1884
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Well, the stairs within the carriage are just nothing compared to those you will
have to climb, up and down, to go over the tracks if your train does not arrive
on Platform one at Moscow Bielorusskaia.
I guess you mean Moscow Belorusskiy vokzal (masculine), which is the mufti name of what RZD refers to as Moskva-Smolenskaya.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 04:26 AM   #1885
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Is it Siemens or Russian made? What is the factory name of this train?
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Old February 25th, 2013, 06:52 AM   #1886
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Is it Siemens or Russian made? What is the factory name of this train?
It's Siemens made (in Krefeld, Germany). In mid-2013 it is planned to start production of the second batch of 16 trains in a joint venture Siemens and Russian group "Yekaterinburg" - plant "Ural Locomotives" in the Sverdlovsk Region. The degree of localization of these trains will be up to 20 percent. Total planned 54 units. After the "Ural Locomotives" will take up the order for 1,200 cars for the "swallow birds", which made ​​the Railways in September 2011. Localization of production at this stage, to be increased to 80 percent. Siemens also has an order for maintenance of rolling stock for a period of 40 years. The contracts with the German Railways is estimated at 2.5 billion euros.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 07:53 AM   #1887
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It's Siemens made (in Krefeld, Germany). In mid-2013 it is planned to start production of the second batch of 16 trains in a joint venture Siemens and Russian group "Yekaterinburg" - plant "Ural Locomotives" in the Sverdlovsk Region. The degree of localization of these trains will be up to 20 percent. Total planned 54 units. After the "Ural Locomotives" will take up the order for 1,200 cars for the "swallow birds", which made ​​the Railways in September 2011. Localization of production at this stage, to be increased to 80 percent. Siemens also has an order for maintenance of rolling stock for a period of 40 years. The contracts with the German Railways is estimated at 2.5 billion euros.

You may consider to buy Ukrainian made HSR solutions
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1538501&page=2

Double-decker Ukrainian HSR trains are also on the way.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 01:41 PM   #1888
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You may consider to buy Ukrainian made HSR solutions
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1538501&page=2
You have to be in custom union to make these kind of suggestions.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #1889
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You have to be in custom union to make these kind of suggestions.
I don't see any connection.
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You may consider to buy Ukrainian made HSR solutions
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1538501&page=2

Double-decker Ukrainian HSR trains are also on the way.
Those EMU's are for general purpose lines, not for HSR ones. The same is correct those ukrainian trains .
But as far as i know there are a large contract with Siemens
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Old February 25th, 2013, 03:08 PM   #1890
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You have to be in custom union to make these kind of suggestions.
you wanted to say "you, guys, need to distantiate yourselves from Russia to the same distance as Germany". after that you will respect. good luck

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Old February 25th, 2013, 03:10 PM   #1891
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I don't see any connection.

Those EMU's are for general purpose lines, not for HSR ones. The same is correct those ukrainian trains .
But as far as i know there are a large contract with Siemens
Ukrainian trains may be both used for 160km/h as your Siemens swallow birds and may be upgraded to run on 220km/h speed.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 08:48 PM   #1892
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you wanted to say "you, guys, need to distantiate yourselves from Russia to the same distance as Germany". after that you will respect. good luck
No, I just was going to say that Ukrainian train has unproven quality and unlike of variuos spanish/german/french trains are not used anywhere on regular basis, also buying some western trains often means technology sharing. I don't see the point why Russia should buy Ukrainian trains, except political one.

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Old February 25th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #1893
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Swiss railway rolling stock manufacturer Stadler Rail will build 16 four-car and 8 six-car double-deck EMU's for Aeroexpress, which operates the railway connections between Moscow and its airports.

Will these be the first double deck trains in Russia?

Press anouncement from Stadler (in German)
Railway Gazette Article on this

Those are very good trains. What will they replace? Old Soviet models? The last time I was in Moscow (1995) the condition of suburban trains was rather sad...
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Old February 25th, 2013, 09:56 PM   #1894
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Those are very good trains. What will they replace? Old Soviet models? The last time I was in Moscow (1995) the condition of suburban trains was rather sad...
It's for Aeroexpress routes. Currently there are using such trains at Moscow Aeroexpress.

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Old February 25th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #1895
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Sochi, ED4M trains:
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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #1896
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what was the reason for not implementing high-level platforms at both termini of Sochi Aeroexpress?
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Old February 27th, 2013, 04:47 AM   #1897
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Any new info on ED4M-0500? As far as I know, this train should have entered regular passenger traffic on Moscow-Yaroslavl railroad by december 2012, but it looks to me like this has been delayed, or at least I failed to find any new info/photo.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #1898
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Any new info on ED4M-0500? I failed to find any new info/photo.
Have a look here for ED4M-0500 photos at Parovoz.com

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Old March 4th, 2013, 02:19 PM   #1899
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Old March 7th, 2013, 10:31 PM   #1900
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This is more of a request. Do anybody here have an high-resolution map of speed limits and technical standards on the Russian railways?
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