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Old March 9th, 2013, 04:08 PM   #1901
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This map is the most detailed available in public: http://parovoz.com/maps/supermap/supermap.png
Includes all CIS countries. No English version though.
Pink are lines U/C or proposed. Brown are abandoned.
Light-colored are freight lines without passenger traffic; color tells electrification type: n/a, 25kV AC, 3kV DC.
Twin line is double track; stair-like is single track with continous double-track insertions. Thin line is narrow gauge.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 10:29 PM   #1902
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I wonder if anyone could help me out a little bit. I am planning (with almost a 100% certainty) to take the Moscow-Beijing train next year. I did a bit of research and it seems to be absolutely not a problem for me. I speak Russian and have fairly good understanding of the culture in general which I suppose should reduce any stress despite being a foreigner. All in all the technical side of taking the train should not be an issue in any way.

However there are a couple of things I would like to figure out:

- Which is the best mobile network (2G GSM. I wouldn't care much about 3G coverage). Are there any up to date maps of coverage of different operators in Russia? Just wonder what is the best option for the Trans-Siberian route in order to get connected to the Internet at least occasionally?

- Safety on the train. I have heard stories of people loosing their belongings or, even worse, money/documents while sleeping. I am aware that in most cases such stories are completely blown out of proportion and have no much in common with reality (as I have experienced myself) but it may happen nonetheless and I wonder how actually safe/dangerous it is to travel on the Trans Siberian?

This is the kind of trip I am planning to make: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8...73ae52d0_o.png
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Old March 19th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #1903
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Are going to do this alone or with friends?
Anyway. here some common tips:

When using 3rd class, always try to book in advance to get perpendicular lower bench (at least 1 per company) - they have a locker, secured by you own weight, so there is no way to get your belongings unless throwing you of your bench entirely



For 1st/2nd class - use extra lock in upper left corner of the door when sleeping.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 12:12 AM   #1904
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Sposibo Xan. That helps alot regarding my safety concerns. Given my size I don't think anyone would try to throw me out of bed.

I will try to arrange to go with some friends but if no success I would do alone anyway.

Also, I have checked some websites and only saw 2nd or 1st class options for bookings. I'm not 100% sure which is which but I suppose 1st class means a little room (kupe) for only two persons while 2nd is the same but for 4 persons and 3rd class a semi-open kupe (platzkart)?

I guess I'd have to go for 1st or 2nd class just to ensure more privacy and chances of having more decent sleep.

There is one more thing I was wondering. What the standard Moscow-Beijing trains look like? There is a variety of images and videos but most are rather old and I'm not sure whether it's the same today. Are they renovated and have contemporary equipment like air-conditioning, power sockets and good noise insulation or are they the pretty much what it used to be back in the Soviet times? I can still remember some of my train journeys in early 1990s (or even very late 80's) and I somewhat miss that atmosphere and environment.

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Old March 20th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #1905
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Sposibo Xan. That helps alot regarding my safety concerns. Given my size I don't think anyone would try to throw me out of bed.

I will try to arrange to go with some friends but if no success I would do alone anyway.

Also, I have checked some websites and only saw 2nd or 1st class options for bookings. I'm not 100% sure which is which but I suppose 1st class means a little room (kupe) for only two persons while 2nd is the same but for 4 persons and 3rd class a semi-open kupe (platzkart)?

I guess I'd have to go for 1st or 2nd class just to ensure more privacy and chances of having more decent sleep.

There is one more thing I was wondering. What the standard Moscow-Beijing trains look like? There is a variety of images and videos but most are rather old and I'm not sure whether it's the same today. Are they renovated and have contemporary equipment like air-conditioning, power sockets and good noise insulation or are they the pretty much what it used to be back in the Soviet times? I can still remember some of my train journeys in early 1990s (or even very late 80's) and I somewhat miss that atmosphere and environment.
Your suppositions are OK. I did it 2 years ago, we went for Kupe (2nd class)
and found it excellent. You won't find airco on all trains, just on the best
ones. And not, unfortunately, on the Moscow-UB-Beijing train whose cars
are provided by the chinese, and still as they were in the soviet era. The
positive aspect of it is that you can open the windows, which beats all
airco if you ask me. There were a few power sockets in the gangway but
none in the compartments.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #1906
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Your suppositions are OK. I did it 2 years ago, we went for Kupe (2nd class)
and found it excellent. You won't find airco on all trains, just on the best
ones. And not, unfortunately, on the Moscow-UB-Beijing train whose cars
are provided by the chinese, and still as they were in the soviet era. The
positive aspect of it is that you can open the windows, which beats all
airco if you ask me. There were a few power sockets in the gangway but
none in the compartments.
Thanks. I guess that would be pretty cool then. Only worry would be power sockets. The reason I was even asking that because I did see a number of different photos of Trans Siberian trains and some interiors look different from others. I'm not sure if that's just a number of different coaches being used (i.e. using whatever they have) or are those different classes (and fare prices) or were those photos taken at different years.

Anyway If I'm 'lucky' to get an old coach I guess that would be my last chance to satisfy my still live nostalgia for Soviet train travel which I have never had a chance to experience to the full.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:53 PM   #1907
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Anyway If I'm 'lucky' to get an old coach I guess that would be my last chance to satisfy my still live nostalgia for Soviet train travel which I have never had a chance to experience to the full.
Well if you take trains 3/4 Moscow-Beijing or trains 7/8 Moscow-UB you're
almost sure to get old chinese or mongolian coaches still in green livery.
(Pictures of that on http://www.seat61.com/Trans-Siberian-moscow-beijing.htm,
some are from me). Newer coaches are appearing essentially on trains whose stock is russian,
specially the most prestigious ones like the Rossiya or the Baïkal.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 10:58 PM   #1908
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Новая железная дорога появится в Волгограде ЧМ 2018

Как я понимаю, по городу будет проходить
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Old June 14th, 2013, 05:34 PM   #1909
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Some photos of Sakhalin Railway (narrow gauge system of Sakhalin island)

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/aid2000/view/521255/
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...2&postcount=34
The process of regauging

locos at depot Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk

locos at depot Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk

TG16 loco at depot Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk

winter in depot Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk

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Old June 14th, 2013, 05:39 PM   #1910
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Freight train at Tomari Station

TG16 loco at Vzmorje station

TGM7 loco at Ilyinsk station

D2 DMU-train at Bykov-Sakhalinskiy station in winter
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Old June 14th, 2013, 05:43 PM   #1911
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Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk station

http://trainpix.org/photo/16009/

http://trainpix.org/photo/15761/

http://trainpix.org/photo/16130/

http://trainpix.org/photo/14355/
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Old June 14th, 2013, 05:49 PM   #1912
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Passenger train in winter

TG16 at depot

Freight train at Vzmorje station

Passenger train from Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk to Nogliki

train at Vzmorje station

D2 DMU-train

D2 running along coastline
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Old June 14th, 2013, 08:58 PM   #1913
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AFAIK, they are converting the entire island to 1520 mm just at the moment, aren't they?
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Yes, that's correct.
The first photo is how it looks like.
Most of pics are not very fresh.
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 09:15 PM   #1915
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New locomotives.

2ЭС7.

http://www.parovoz.com/newgallery/?ID=427435&LNG=RU / Автор: кнут
http://trainpix.org/photo/67536/

ЭП20.

http://www.parovoz.com/newgallery/pg...=412829&LNG=RU / Автор: Артамонов Денис

ЭП2К.

http://www.parovoz.com/newgallery/?ID=426024&LNG=RU / Автор: Дмитрий Зю.

ЭП1М.

http://www.parovoz.com/newgallery/?ID=426869&LNG=RU / Автор: КириллКО ツ

2ЭС10.

http://www.parovoz.com/newgallery/?ID=395898&LNG=RU / Автор: Котов Олег

GTEL ГТ1h.

http://www.parovoz.com/newgallery/?ID=419823&LNG=RU / Автор: IAGSoft

ТЭМ-ТМХ.

http://www.parovoz.com/newgallery/?ID=427464&LNG=RU / Автор: Panzer
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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:16 AM   #1916
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Obskaya–Bovanenkovo Line.

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Old August 7th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #1918
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The Gazprom railway
It's amazing how money makes people build things even on such hard conditions.
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It's amazing how money makes people build things even on such hard conditions.
Most part of our country has such hard conditions. This is Russia. The energy is the compensation of this kind of nature we have.
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