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Old September 9th, 2007, 04:24 AM   #81
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And another quick update on the progress of this tower...

A few months ago a few politicians from the Christian Democrats (CDA) wondered if this tower would fit in the well-known Dutch landscape of pastures and canals with windmills. They basically wanted to know if the tower wouldn't be too 'visible' due to it's extreme (for Dutch standards) height (see post #70).

A few days ago, a government agency called the RPB (Ruimtelijk Planbureau) published a research about the visibility of the tower. In this research, they used GIS (Geographic Information Systems) and several datasets (satellite data, building databases and climatology data) to calculate the visibility of the tower in different seasons and in different weather conditions. The results (see below) are pretty positive for skyscraper fans, but might be used by people who are afraid the Dutch landscape will be ruined by Belle, since its visibility is quite amazing.


Conclusions:

> In theory the tower would be visible from a distance of 62km. However, in reality this is impossible, because the Netherlands isn't a big, flat plain. Buildings, trees and other objects will severely limit the visibility

> In reality, the tower will never be visible from a distance of more then 35km. But this is only possible when there are no other objects blocking your view and the weather is perfect. It might even be completely invisible in some places in this 35km wide circle.

> The weather plays a big role when it comes to the visibility. As you might know, the weather here is often rainy, which limits the visbility. When you take the average Dutch weather in account, you'll see that from a distance of 5km, the tower will be visible 78% of the time and from a distance of 30km only 9% of the time.

> Compared to other tall Dutch buildings, it will have the biggest impact on the horizon.

Map of Belle's visibility: the darker the yellow, the better it's visible. Note that it will be possible to this tower from Amsterdam and also from The Hague and Rotterdam (if you stand on top of a normal building).




Now it's up to the municipality of Utrecht to make sure this tower becomes reality. Things are looking great though, since most politicians in this city are excited about this project. The Christian Democrats in the national parliament also need to be watched, since they might use this research to point out the possible 'damage' to the Dutch landscape...

That's it for now...
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Old September 9th, 2007, 01:22 PM   #82
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Nice Update. Typical Christian Democrats how they try to inter fear in all things in live. A little bit scary how they present them self in Holland the last years, and even try to run people's personal live. This country is running back to the 50 s, now the Cristians rule's this country. I am happy that the municipality of Utrecht not have to listen to decide to build this tower.

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Old September 22nd, 2007, 05:29 PM   #83
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Last week the 'Rijksbouwmeester' (a special architect who advises the government on architecture and spatial planning) gave his advice about this project to the minister of enviroment and spatial planning. Today, a spokesperson of the minister told the press what she thought of the Belle van Zuylen after she read the advice.

It isn't positive at all. According to the minister the Belle van Zuylen 'is the wrong tower in the wrong place'. The minister thinks that this tower doesn't fit into its surroundings (mostly buildings of 5 to 7 stories) and that it's too close to the 'Green Heart', a large area which consists of the typical Dutch polders. She fears that the height of the tower will 'pollute the horizon'.

The minister plans on further examining the advice given by the 'Rijksbouwmeester' and to inform the parliament about this advice.

What is going to happen now is very unclear at the moment. Keep in mind that the municipality can still decide to ignore this advice, but that they'll probably face a conflict with the government should they decide to do this. We'll just have to wait for an official statement from either the municipality or the developer, since they were just about to sign the first contracts.
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Old October 28th, 2007, 12:26 PM   #84
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Two animations of the Belle van Zuylen.

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Old October 28th, 2007, 01:01 PM   #85
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This is really crazy!!!

For the Nederlands it is just the tallest building (structure) in the hole area of Europe! execp for Franfkurt. But Nederland is increases in al the cities especially in Rotterdam.
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Old October 28th, 2007, 02:10 PM   #86
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Last week the 'Rijksbouwmeester' (a special architect who advises the government on architecture and spatial planning) gave his advice about this project to the minister of enviroment and spatial planning. Today, a spokesperson of the minister told the press what she thought of the Belle van Zuylen after she read the advice.

It isn't positive at all. According to the minister the Belle van Zuylen 'is the wrong tower in the wrong place'. The minister thinks that this tower doesn't fit into its surroundings (mostly buildings of 5 to 7 stories) and that it's too close to the 'Green Heart', a large area which consists of the typical Dutch polders. She fears that the height of the tower will 'pollute the horizon'.

The minister plans on further examining the advice given by the 'Rijksbouwmeester' and to inform the parliament about this advice.

What is going to happen now is very unclear at the moment. Keep in mind that the municipality can still decide to ignore this advice, but that they'll probably face a conflict with the government should they decide to do this. We'll just have to wait for an official statement from either the municipality or the developer, since they were just about to sign the first contracts.
If i could vote for this building, i would firstly call up the minister and say *bleep* you, only to decide for myself if it is good for Utrecht or not. I would go for a yes, because it gives the Netherlands and Utrecht international attention in a good way.
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Old October 28th, 2007, 06:01 PM   #87
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Only the second render on the first page looks cool, the rest is pretty crap. I'm not convinced of it's beauty so far.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM   #88
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Old February 10th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #89
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this tower reminds me of Burj Al Alam proposed in dubai
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Old February 11th, 2008, 01:45 AM   #90
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The Belle design and the constructon is more exciting. The top is expending out of the center of the tower.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 05:01 PM   #91
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Last week the 'Rijksbouwmeester' (a special architect who advises the government on architecture and spatial planning) gave his advice about this project to the minister of enviroment and spatial planning. Today, a spokesperson of the minister told the press what she thought of the Belle van Zuylen after she read the advice.

It isn't positive at all. According to the minister the Belle van Zuylen 'is the wrong tower in the wrong place'. The minister thinks that this tower doesn't fit into its surroundings (mostly buildings of 5 to 7 stories) and that it's too close to the 'Green Heart', a large area which consists of the typical Dutch polders. She fears that the height of the tower will 'pollute the horizon'.

The minister plans on further examining the advice given by the 'Rijksbouwmeester' and to inform the parliament about this advice.

What is going to happen now is very unclear at the moment. Keep in mind that the municipality can still decide to ignore this advice, but that they'll probably face a conflict with the government should they decide to do this. We'll just have to wait for an official statement from either the municipality or the developer, since they were just about to sign the first contracts.

Photo of the east site of the city of Utrecht. Virtual image of the Belle van Zuylen. In the new plans of the city this tower will be surrounded whit high rise.

The municipality has shown the minister the area were this building will be built. She is more exiting about this area. The municipality will chance the city plans. The Belle van Zuylen will be surrounded whit high rise buildings.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 05:16 PM   #92
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this height for a town with less than 300.000 inhabitants .... fantastic


has this anything to do with "Leidsche Rijn" ?
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this height for a town with less than 300.000 inhabitants .... fantastic


has this anything to do with "Leidsche Rijn" ?
Yes Leidscherijn is a new part of Utrecht whit in the near future 100.000 inhabitants. Utrecht is the city whit the fastest crowing economic and inhabitants in hole of Holland. Every moment the city will past the 300.000, in a few years it will be 400.000. Including suburbs the city has 650.000 inhabitants. The city is not a named place in Europa, they hope the Belle will change that a little bit. Per example-A lot of people in Europe thinks that Amsterdam is the financial center of Holland. Almost 50% of the HQ's of banking-insurance and ICT companies are stationed in Utrecht.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 09:43 AM   #94
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The municipality of Utrecht organised an discussion and information day for the inhabitants on 17 mei in the Leidscherijn information center. On this day you can go into a crane (on the place where the Belle will be build) to a spectacular height of 262 meter.



Leidscherij is a new part of the city of Utrecht, the municipality has decide that the center will be "the sky is the limit.

The first tower that they will build is the 262 m Belle van Zuylen to try to put the city on the European map.

The status of the tower:

The municipality given the architect the green light to design the final worked out design of the tower.
The tower is in second phase of the environment procedure (MER) what can lead to a building permit.
The municipality has started up a campaign to inform the people en discus whit them. On the website they have now 8 web pages for information (in Dutch) http://www.utrecht.nl/smartsite.dws?id=233369 about the tower and the building program of the second center of Utrecht.

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Old April 27th, 2008, 11:03 AM   #95
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What's the highest building of Europe ?. Is that the Naberezjnaja-tower in Moscow (268 m).
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Old May 1st, 2008, 03:32 PM   #96
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stunning project!!!!!
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Old May 17th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #97
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Some of the latest renders/impressions:

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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:31 PM   #98
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Whooow fantastic.

A great futuristik tower Never seen in Europe.
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Wow, Love the renders! So much more impresive...
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Old May 17th, 2008, 06:24 PM   #100
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