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Old June 3rd, 2007, 04:43 PM   #2081
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So another 10-11 floors until it passes Taipei 101???

Anymore mechanical/plant room floors between current height and top of concrete structure???
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 04:45 PM   #2082
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still 8F until the next mech. floors ( the height when BD will surpass Taipe 101 )
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 05:25 PM   #2083
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AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BURJ DUBAI
by Christopher Sell on Saturday, 02 June 2007




There is very little that hasn't been written about the Burj Dubai. Currently standing at 128 floors and 460m, it would be no exaggeration to say that this spiralling edifice, with its unique stepped design, epitomises what Dubai is striving to become - a progressive, modern, world-leading city.

Located off Sheikh Zayed Road, the Burj Dubai will also form the centrepiece of the mixed-use Downtown Burj Dubai complex, complete with the Dubai Mall, The Old Town, Boulevard and Residences. Once complete, the tower will occupy 2 million m2 of the US $20 billion (AED73 billion) development. The Burj itself will hold all manner of facilities, from top-end bars and restaurants to shops and spas. An Armani hotel will occupy the lower 37 floors and the tower will also feature the Armani Residences.



While the original design met a height of approximately 700m, speculation over its eventual height remains. Project manager, Greg Sang, refuses to say anymore than confirm the tower will be over 700m, but local media reports have suggested a figure of 808m. When Construction Week visited the Burj Dubai site last week, the assumption from one of the 30 contractors operating on the tower, was that it will hit at least 800m in height once completed.

German firm Hünnebeck is one of three companies involved in the formwork for the tower - the others being Meva and Doka - and is responsible for the plan and materials for the soffit and joist formwork for the podium area. But constructing the world's tallest building is not a simple exercise, as Frank Odzewalski, CEO, Hünnebeck, explains: "We have done by far the most complex and biggest area of construction, from the podium area to various types of buildings and the first 10 floors.



"We were not aware of the volume or complexity of the work. The functional areas, such as the ballroom, are outside. The ceilings are extremely high to get concrete beams up, so everything required a lot of technical changes."

This complexity was due to the fact that every floor level necessitated different alignment of the concrete beam in accordance with the design. As a result the shuttering had to be changed for every floor sequence. Once the 10th floor had been reached, this reverted to flat, conventional slabs. Originally, the thickness of each floor slab was to be 22cm, but after consultation, this was reduced to 20cm, to ensure a greater height.

"This was part of the technical discussion taken at the beginning of the project. The slab thickness was higher but it was reduced because, with such a high tower, every centimetre you can save takes off weight and gives you the opportunity to go higher."

Highlighting the fundamental difference in construction required for the first 10 floors, as opposed to the next phase, Odzewalski explains each floor took two weeks to complete, which shrunk to just three days once the formwork continued with the regular slabs. "Every floor was different in terms of height level, so we had to use different types of support systems, and also there was a change in design in terms of beams; wide beams, small beams or high beams," he adds.

Implementing these required Hünnebeck to draw up a plan, which first had to go through the consultant - a joint venture between Turner and Hyder - who firstly checked it and then approved the go-ahead, which made it a massive administrative as well as technical task. However, Odzewalski explains that before even being offered the job, they had to convince Turner and Hyder of Hünnebeck's profile, what it had done, provide references and demonstrate technical capabilities to ensure they were happy.

"When we were asked to submit an offer to them, we were asked to provide the most suitable and possible technical solution and suitable material," he adds. Hünnebeck supplied a similar system to that in use in Europe, which is a steel panel system, which features the plywood already installed. "This is much easer to erect, more flexible in terms of length and height adjustments. It is much faster, more efficient and safer," says Odzewalski.

"These people had no clue about this system, because the market is dominated by the traditional wooden girder system, which is much slower."

And the problem with that system, says Odzewalski, is that it requires pre-assembly as it arrives on site in separate pieces, which is time consuming. The steel panel system, however, comes ready for use and is estimated to be 70% quicker. It is also cheaper as it is less labour intensive and, once properly instructed, easier to operate.

Currently, Hünnebeck is occupied with the complicated task of building a tunnel to connect the podium area with the adjoining Dubai Mall complex. This is difficult as another joint venture of Dutco Balfour Beatty and CCC are responsible for the mall, so both companies need to coordinate on the job.



Hünnebeck has had some experience within the region though, and is quite used to operating here. Previously the company has been involved with projects in Abu Dhabi on Zayed Sports City as well as work in Kuwait, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia. Ironically, Odzewalski believes had the company entered the Dubai market sooner, it would have secured the contract for the entire tower, but due to its lack of presence, it was unable to do so. "When we were bidding for the job, we had no engineering department, no stock yard, nothing; just three people coming from Germany," he says.

However, the company has ensured its role in such a high-profile project has led to further work within the emirate. It is carrying out the formwork for the Sheikh Hamdan Awards building based at the southern end of Al Diyafa Street in Satwa. It has also embarked on three projects in Business Bay with ACC as well as for the Bin Ladin Group. There can be little doubt, however, that whatever projects the company gets involved with in the future, few, if any will have the impact that the Burj Dubai has had, and will continue to have.

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Facts and figures: the world’s tallest tower

• Double-deck cabs will have the capacity for 21 people on each deck and will break the world record for distance travelled from the lowest to highest stop. Additionally, these elevators will be the world's fastest, at 18m/sec (65km/h).

• Thirty-one thousand kilometres and four hundred tonnes of rebar was used in the tower, podium and office annex. If this was laid end-to-end it would extend over a quarter of the way round the world.

• Its curtain wall measures 111,500m2 in total - the equivalent of 17 football pitches.

• The Burj Dubai will be the first mega high-rise in which certain elevators will be programmed to permit controlled evacuation for certain fire or security events.

• Skidmore Owings & Merrill, the architectural firm responsible for the design of the Burj also designed the Sears Tower, Chicago and Jin Mao Building, Shanghai. It recently won the architectural design contract for the Freedom Tower in New York on the site of the former World Trade Centre.

• Progressing at its current speed of up to three floors a week, the Burj Dubai will become the tallest building in the world in September 2007, surpassing Taipei 101 (509m).

• Built by a consortium that includes South Korea's Samsung Corporation, Arabtec and Besix, the tower has 30 contractors operating on it and 5,000 labourers at the peak of construction.

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Old June 3rd, 2007, 05:33 PM   #2084
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Originally, the thickness of each floor slab was to be 22cm, but after consultation, this was reduced to 20cm, to ensure a greater height.
Maybe this went wrong, and forced EMAAR to re-inforce the slabs with carbonfiber, or maybe the 20 cm thick slabs were ok for the 705 - 808 meters tower, but not enough for the rumoured increase in height.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 05:46 PM   #2085
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I still hope that it is going to be 818 Meters in height to claim my prize
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 06:22 PM   #2086
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Won't it be a target for terrors?I like height be am afraid of the middle east terrorism.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 06:35 PM   #2087
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It wont be because the UAE is a neutral union off emirates so they have no value of being attacked by terrrorists.

Iff they did then the whole UAE is forced to work alongside the USA.
It wouldnt be wise to do that: bombing a neutral country making it turn against you. gaining more enemy`s then gaining ally`s.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 06:58 PM   #2088
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Won't it be a target for terrors?I like height be am afraid of the middle east terrorism.

Yeah, dubai is really neutral. living here its really laid back, and you even wonder that near you is places like iran, iraq (well not near, just in the region). Ive never heard of a bomb, and everyone comes here for holiday. Remember i said EVERYONE, bad and good (as many dubains will hear), so they wouldnt bomb somewhere they like to relax. this is where america gets its crazy ideas that dubai is part of al qaeda, and buying train stations means that they are terrorists (craazy).

Dubai is safer than america or uk.

back on topic. does a regular building have 20cm floors?
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 06:59 PM   #2089
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 07:35 PM   #2090
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thx imre .
seems that new glass has arrived

btw...i counted at least 131F but i believe it already has 132F

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Old June 3rd, 2007, 08:03 PM   #2091
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WOW !!!! Very nice photos ! and sure, i also counted 131 floors. What a record !
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 08:14 PM   #2092
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it's difficult to count now...guess it's gonna be topped out (excluding the spire) by start of Q4.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 08:19 PM   #2093
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it's difficult to count now...guess it's gonna be topped out (excluding the spire) by start of Q4.
it'll top out next year
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 08:46 PM   #2094
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love that bottom pic ! AMAZING!
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I know the lower ones are the observation deck levels, but what are the higher ones?
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 11:07 PM   #2096
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 11:15 PM   #2097
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whats he on about ? "ones" meybe if he were more specific i could understand what he means =)
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 11:26 PM   #2098
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I know the lower ones are the observation deck levels, but what are the higher ones?
the ob deck is relocated to 142-143r`d level !
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 11:31 PM   #2099
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uh, that was its original level on the 705m version, u can clearly see level 124 and 125 on that pic are bigger floors, they are the obs deck. whether or not another obs deck heigher up will be located is yet to be known.
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Yeah, dubai is really neutral. living here its really laid back, and you even wonder that near you is places like iran, iraq (well not near, just in the region). Ive never heard of a bomb, and everyone comes here for holiday. Remember i said EVERYONE, bad and good (as many dubains will hear), so they wouldnt bomb somewhere they like to relax. this is where america gets its crazy ideas that dubai is part of al qaeda, and buying train stations means that they are terrorists (craazy).
As UAE loosens their Islamic laws (which they WILL do if they want tourism), it'll make the fundamentalists in the region angry. Also, it'll be an easy place for the fundies to target Westerners.
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