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Old June 28th, 2007, 01:23 AM   #3161
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I swallow 1-3 times to ease my ears to get to 40th fl. This is 170 fl. Just think it'll be a bit frustrated to do that to get ground floor/ or to that height. If forget the key, had to pass all painful ear process again.

But I think other people dont have such stupid problems like I do.
Going up to an altitude like the Burj Dubai observation deck will probably give ear pain to all visitors. And to those living and working there as well. A possible solution is of course a pressurized interior, like you find in an airplane. But so far I haven't read anywhere that this is going to be implemented.
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Old June 28th, 2007, 01:26 AM   #3162
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A possible solution is of course a pressurized interior, like you find in an airplane. But so far I haven't read anywhere that this is going to be implemented.
That doesn't sound feasible anyway. Imagine, you couldn't open a single window, no outside observation deck etc...
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Old June 28th, 2007, 01:57 AM   #3163
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just swallow your saliva and you'll be fine
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Old June 28th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #3164
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O I C. Thanks.

I swallow 1-3 times to ease my ears to get to 40th fl. This is 170 fl. Just think it'll be a bit frustrated to do that to get ground floor/ or to that height. If forget the key, had to pass all painful ear process again.

But I think other people dont have such stupid problems like I do.
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That doesn't sound feasible anyway. Imagine, you couldn't open a single window, no outside observation deck etc...
Take a look at the glass panels that have been installed so far ... it doesn't look like you can open a window in even a single one of them, does it?
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Old June 28th, 2007, 02:19 AM   #3165
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Take a look at the glass panels that have been installed so far ... it doesn't look like you can open a window in even a single one of them, does it?
That's true. But I guess the isolation needed for pressurisation would be too costly.
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Old June 28th, 2007, 02:36 AM   #3166
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Hi all.

Picasa - Errol Hugh - June 07:

more shots of the previously posted 27 foot model








level 112 - first level of tier 10


tier 10 - one of levels 113 to 123


Photog says all from June 2007 ( no exif data ). The plans kinda look like either observation decks or sky lobbies for elevator transfer. Perhaps 112 is a transfer level and the second plan is level 123, the lower level of the obs decks.

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Old June 28th, 2007, 02:37 AM   #3167
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The building won't be airlocked of course, but I don't think ear problem will be much of an issue for most people. Seven hundred meters isn't THAT much compared to mountains and hills. Consider that in a small unpressurized airplane (like a Cessna 206 or something) you go up a lot higher and a lot faster than you will even with the fast elevators of the Burj Dubai.
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Old June 28th, 2007, 05:15 AM   #3168
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Photog says all from June 2007 ( no exif data ). The plans kinda look like either observation decks or sky lobbies for elevator transfer. Perhaps 112 is a transfer level and the second plan is level 123, the lower level of the obs decks.


Sorry but going to have to respectfully disagree with you there Fury. Just looking at the plans shows what appear to be two typical office floors. Not a cubicle city but many nice relatively open desks and meeting rooms for a small business (extention of a much larger company most likely if they can afford an office in BD). Maybe the core is a transfer level but the actual open spaces are office in both those shots. It could also just showcase a typical floor usage for floors 111 to 123, not that they'll all look like that. The ob decks will look quite different!

Hollie - I thought I had read in one of the linked articles over tons of these pages that the elevators are similar to those in Taipei 101 but slightly faster. The observatory express elevators in Taipei 101 are of a rounded shape to lower drag, accoustically and hermetically sealed, and will start pressurization once the doors close (or so the articles say). You might need to get used to a little adjustment but if they can pressureize the cabin on the way up, I don't think it'd be quite as painful. Whether every elevator in BD though offers this sophistification, is something we'll have to find out later about (though I'd think probably not).
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Old June 28th, 2007, 05:47 AM   #3169
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Picasa - Errol Hugh - June 07:

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27feet = 8.23m or scale 1;100.= 823metres. thats pretty close to 818m ;-)
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Old June 28th, 2007, 06:17 AM   #3170
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Thats cool Cul. I have 7 other pics of that model from over a year ago and a google video of the making of it - rather poor quality though. Perhaps a google video search would find it ? Can't wait for your July drawing - always a treat - regards.

Real - I think you are correct. Good eye man.

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Old June 28th, 2007, 06:27 AM   #3171
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I have a real dumbass question.I haven't read all the specs for this building but am wondering what is their contingency plan for emergencies?
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Old June 28th, 2007, 06:32 AM   #3172
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pressurized interior,
I guess the problem will mostly occur to very few people who go up/down very often in a day. But they'll problably get familiar to that finally

Actually, for people who live/work up there, I dont think they expect to go up/down much often( 10+ times a day)
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Old June 28th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #3173
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I have a real dumbass question.I haven't read all the specs for this building but am wondering what is their contingency plan for emergencies?
parachutes under everyones desks? being a solid concrete structure im sure a fire would be swiflty contained to the floor of fire.? i could be wrong. does anyone know what fire evac is?
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Old June 28th, 2007, 08:15 AM   #3174
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lol

I can image it...

*this is not a drill! Please make your way to your nearest tier and prepare for an emergency parachute jump!*

There are actually containment rooms which are firs proof built with separate life support and ventilation systems for survival during a fire. I dont know the details of it but its some of the most modern and expensive emergency planning of any building ever built!
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Old June 28th, 2007, 08:46 AM   #3175
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im 1.82m, and at 1'500 scale, im 900m. i took this of sydney model today which is 1'500scale, hence view from 750m high. about as high as BurjD spire roof.
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Old June 28th, 2007, 09:10 AM   #3176
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parachutes under everyones desks? being a solid concrete structure im sure a fire would be swiflty contained to the floor of fire.? i could be wrong. does anyone know what fire evac is?
parachutes under everyone's desk?? hmm that's a good idea, but the question is.. How r they going to open the windows??
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Old June 28th, 2007, 09:56 AM   #3177
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Let's see here, several here are claiming 494m and Skytower claims 500m. According to some consensus here he is up by 6m and you guys are doing a big crapfest about it? One of the reasons I no longer want to post in this thread.

Skytower has explained from where they are going to take height measurments from and they are using higher grade GPS instruments. I believe Skytower's 500m height. Emaar has shown they never post correctly even in number of floors. Skytower gets readings from the source.

At this point I do NOT believe Skytower is a liar.
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Old June 28th, 2007, 12:44 PM   #3178
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im 1.82m, and at 1'500 scale, im 900m. i took this of sydney model today which is 1'500scale, hence view from 750m high. about as high as BurjD spire roof.
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believe me culwulla, in reality that view will be 100 times better!
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Old June 28th, 2007, 01:41 PM   #3179
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28/June/2007

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Old June 28th, 2007, 02:20 PM   #3180
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Thanks for the pics Imre
Here for you:

Hey Cull. I am 1,86 Meters tall

You = 1,82M * 500 = 910 Meter high "Skyscraper"
Me = 1,86M * 500 = 930 Meters tall "scraper"

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