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Old July 30th, 2007, 01:39 PM   #4861
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I've been thinking about compiling a Vanhenrik-English dictionary.
hahaha! plz do!

Im getting guilt trips about BDs accounts being spread all over the net...
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Old July 30th, 2007, 02:16 PM   #4862
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30/July/2007


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Burj Dubai , lake test





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Old July 30th, 2007, 04:33 PM   #4863
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Seven levels on cladding now. Great stuff, Imre!
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Old July 30th, 2007, 04:39 PM   #4864
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ok end way is meney here say it isn`t right !
end one of them is bikes on http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/

if i say like this i hope you are right !
He would say that....it seems he classes my website as a rival...which it isn't.

Many people seem to be jealous that my Epenis is bigger than theirs....it's just stupid.

Just ask yourself which website is for profit and which one is a news scoop information site?

I don't see any pay per click adverts on my site do you?
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Old July 30th, 2007, 04:40 PM   #4865
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The one-time world's tallest mast

Hello again! As I promised, here's some trivia on it.

1) Located in central Poland

2) Under construction between 1970 and 1974

3) Its weight - 420 tons+the pressure of the side-ropes upon the base of the structure, which amounts to 1100 tons in total

4) At its base there were 3 insulators, 2m in height each

5) On 2nd February 1988 an abrupt thaw caused huge icicles to fall of the structure, some of which being the size of telegraph poles. Partial destruction of the electrical equipment below resulting in a 30 hour halt of transmission

6) On 13th July (Friday) 1984 a severe storm; the lightning perforates a 2 by 1m resistance coil (some of the holes as big as a man's fist)

7) 30min trip from bottom to top (lift), 2h+ ordeal 'on foot' (I'd still like it,though) In winter, temperature going below -20C now and then

8) The transmitter-120 kW

9) 50 mm steel side-ropes (5 levels, 3 ropes each)

10) 8th August 1991 the mast collapses. The Most likely scenario:

A) Some of the side-ropes swapped for temporary ones (due to the construction's overhaul)
B) 2 months into the works one of the makeshift ropes slips/tears out of its anchoring, causing some ultra-heavy 'used-to-be-equipment-now-projectile' to travel in air 150m
C) the makeshift rope below snaps
D) the upper part of the mast snaps
E) the falling piece smacks the lower structure

A, B, C, D, E = gigantic domino sequence in less than 12-13 secs

11) Under close inspection by the 'structural coroners' reveal some steel parts had reached the temperature of several hundreds degrees C, due to friction. Some reported to have had 'blow-torch-like marks'

12) The rumble heard within a couple of dozen kms. The eye-witnesses compare it to 'fllying-over-head-jet-plane-experience'

13) Prior to the disaster the main engineer on-site alerted the authorities to the 'ski-like shape' of the upper tier; steps were taken to fix it. Yet, some 'deep-structural-cracks' might've gone by unnoticed

Extra piece of trivia: a group of six workers were already on their way to start maintenance job on the mast, but the engineer (some year later he was interviewed by TV) told them to put it off till the morning of the next day (at 8 p.m. it would start getting dark, making it difficult to move on with work). The workers were eager to please and called it a day. Some minutes later (at 7.10 p.m.) the man's tallest construction ever was... NO MORE...

If You had some questions, I'd be glad to answer them. Cheers!
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Old July 30th, 2007, 04:55 PM   #4866
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Thanks a lot Imre for these nice pictures!!

They test the lake!!!!!!!!
Oh man the future for the BD and lake looks ever brighter

BTW i will mis the nude BD. Was kinda sexy though
"She" has now got a pants, a hot pants to be preceise

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Old July 30th, 2007, 04:58 PM   #4867
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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:07 PM   #4868
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Hello again! As I promised, here's some trivia on it.

1) Located in central Poland

2) Under construction between 1970 and 1974

3) Its weight - 420 tons+the pressure of the side-ropes upon the base of the structure, which amounts to 1100 tons in total

4) At its base there were 3 insulators, 2m in height each

5) On 2nd February 1988 an abrupt thaw caused huge icicles to fall of the structure, some of which being the size of telegraph poles. Partial destruction of the electrical equipment below resulting in a 30 hour halt of transmission

6) On 13th July (Friday) 1984 a severe storm; the lightning perforates a 2 by 1m resistance coil (some of the holes as big as a man's fist)

7) 30min trip from bottom to top (lift), 2h+ ordeal 'on foot' (I'd still like it,though) In winter, temperature going below -20C now and then

8) The transmitter-120 kW

9) 50 mm steel side-ropes (5 levels, 3 ropes each)

10) 8th August 1991 the mast collapses. The Most likely scenario:

A) Some of the side-ropes swapped for temporary ones (due to the construction's overhaul)
B) 2 months into the works one of the makeshift ropes slips/tears out of its anchoring, causing some ultra-heavy 'used-to-be-equipment-now-projectile' to travel in air 150m
C) the makeshift rope below snaps
D) the upper part of the mast snaps
E) the falling piece smacks the lower structure

A, B, C, D, E = gigantic domino sequence in less than 12-13 secs

11) Under close inspection by the 'structural coroners' reveal some steel parts had reached the temperature of several hundreds degrees C, due to friction. Some reported to have had 'blow-torch-like marks'

12) The rumble heard within a couple of dozen kms. The eye-witnesses compare it to 'fllying-over-head-jet-plane-experience'

13) Prior to the disaster the main engineer on-site alerted the authorities to the 'ski-like shape' of the upper tier; steps were taken to fix it. Yet, some 'deep-structural-cracks' might've gone by unnoticed

Extra piece of trivia: a group of six workers were already on their way to start maintenance job on the mast, but the engineer (some year later he was interviewed by TV) told them to put it off till the morning of the next day (at 8 p.m. it would start getting dark, making it difficult to move on with work). The workers were eager to please and called it a day. Some minutes later (at 7.10 p.m.) the man's tallest construction ever was... NO MORE...

If You had some questions, I'd be glad to answer them. Cheers!
Thanks for the informations.

I was in Warsaw in June and i would have visited this tower for sure if it would still stand. Nearly 650m. That`s really really tall.

Near the place where i live stands the 2nd and the 3rd tallest structure in Germany. The 2 towers are over 360m tall. Even if you put one of the tower on top of the other there would be still 100m missing before they would reach the height of the Burj Dubai.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:10 PM   #4869
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Thanks sankibez! Great info!

On this image...



First of all, does anyone know if the bracket or whatever it is on the far left, one floor below the top of the tier (tier 2?), is permanent?

Second, I'm really excited to see a tier that has cladding below and above it, as we should see in a week or so there!
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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:10 PM   #4870
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Burj Dubai plans New Year's Eve launch
by Rob Corder on Monday, 30 July 2007


The tower is expected to officially open before Christmas 2008.
The world's tallest building is planning to launch in style with a glitzy bash to ring in the New Year, according to the tower's project director.

Speaking exclusively to Arabian Business, George Sang revealed that on December 31 next year the Burj Dubai will host a massive New Year's Eve party to celebrate the tower's completion.

He said the tower is expected to officially open before Christmas 2008.

Sang remained tight-lipped over the height of Burj Dubai. Estimates range from 700-1000 metres, with many speculating the final height will be around 808 metres.

Cladding of the building in reflective glass began seven weeks ago, so Dubai residents are finally beginning to see the gleaming needle that the tower will eventually become. (arabianbusiness.com)
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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:21 PM   #4871
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It will not happen. Samsung is predicting a completiion on late 2009.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:27 PM   #4872
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Burj Dubai , lake test




Those pictures suggest that the mock-up lake is only for testing/measuring the evaporation, and not infiltration through the bottom or the sides. Maybe checking sand accumulation as well.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:34 PM   #4873
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the crystal gives it another look
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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:56 PM   #4874
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They seem to be doing about 1/3rd of a glass floor a day... which is as fast as the concrete rises! So it's not going to catch itself up until the concrete stops being placed... and to do 160 floors will take 480 days (although as the top floors are so much smaller it should speed up).
Of course if they use more than one team as suggested then that'll speed it up too...
Great pics again and, wow SkyTower you got big cahonas to post those pdf's online - that stuff seems way confidential !!! Not sure why some of the pdf's have a height of 808 and some say 818.
It's good to hear they're so careful on safety... I hope they fix the things quickly so there aren't anymore serious accidents 1 person died. I wonder if they updated the sign "days since last lost time accident". Then we'll know if that sign is just publicity BS or is reflecting what's really happening!
Those safety "bulletins" are also great for showing the interior of the building. The place looks so dark and ominous inside at this stage with the dark grey walls and the lack of lighting!
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Old July 30th, 2007, 06:05 PM   #4875
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Great pics once again Imre! Looks like level 143 on top, thats 522 meters!!! One more floor and is over Sears tower antenna. The highest wing is over the 4th mechanical floors. It took a long time to complete. The `INDIA` sign will soon be no more. Actually only for insiders It will look much more massive when wings are completed! I just cant wait
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Old July 30th, 2007, 06:16 PM   #4876
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They seem to be doing about 1/3rd of a glass floor a day... which is as fast as the concrete rises! So it's not going to catch itself up until the concrete stops being placed...
But the higher floors will be much smaller, so they won't take as long to clad.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 06:55 PM   #4877
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Plus as they say: "...Practice makes perfect..."
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Old July 30th, 2007, 07:09 PM   #4878
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Many thanks, update master Imre
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Old July 30th, 2007, 07:17 PM   #4879
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This is humiliated! Emmar should know better.. provide proper beds and air conditions.. they should have built resting room/building next to Burj Dubai..

"Oh cheap indian labour, **** it" - that is what Emmar thinking??
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Old July 30th, 2007, 07:30 PM   #4880
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That was the stipulated pile test for those columns (1200mm x 31.2m)

The epoxy coating is because that area is a very old marsh bed and just 12m below the surface is brackish water as you get down to sea level.

The whole piles were coated for oxide protection from the salty water which accelerates the deteriation of the concrete.

The foundation mat has already "settled 40mm" since construction began; but the tolerances are very high in the safety margins.

I'm not sure what the Data Mining Specification Language is for this area as I'm not a ground surveyor; but you can read about the testing at...

http://dubaimegaprojects.com/docs/bu...g-of-piles.pdf

As for the TMD....I have no idea! Hopefully one like in SWFC but all I know is they have set aside £20,000,000 AED in the overall budget.

IC ...but f all of your piles rebar and the mat foundation rebar are epoxy coated how are you going to do the grounding/lightning protection?

oh 40mm already? oh yeah as shown in that excel spreadsheet... but given the load of this tower 40mm shld be less than what is expected, isnbt it? and whats the value of the soil capacity used in the mat foundation?

btw, DMSL = Dubai Mean Sea Level ... not any language hehe...

out of curiousity, do you happen to know the Dubai Municipality Level and the Dubai Mean Sea Level for Dancing Tower plot?
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