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Old October 1st, 2007, 10:46 AM   #7561
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From Gulf News today, all projects ahead of schedule.

http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/General/10157300.html
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Old October 1st, 2007, 11:18 AM   #7562
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No i really do doubt that .... it makes no sense actually, with todays media sources and the "world is one big village" we often hear of nowadays i belive the Burj Dubai today is well known, so is Dubai as a city to alot more people that those two towers were..... im sure many many americans that were struggling through the depression couldnt give a flick about tall towers going up in their country let alone european, asian and arican nations.
For many during the depression, the ESB was a symbol of hope and resilience. And working on it was one of the better paying jobs around.

(The above applies to the Hoover Dam project as well.)
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Old October 1st, 2007, 12:17 PM   #7563
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Nice articel, a masterpiece of journalistic work... I suppose Infinity Tower is ahead of schedule as well?

Anyway, can't wait to see the Burj with my own eye, just a few weeks to wait... wohoo!

@ Vrysxy: Sex on the observation deck? I don't know if the people in Dubai are so easy about that... The Burj Dubai doesn't stand in Amsterdam!!!
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Old October 1st, 2007, 01:04 PM   #7564
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how many floors left?
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Old October 1st, 2007, 01:28 PM   #7565
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How much will a building of this height settle?
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Old October 1st, 2007, 01:49 PM   #7566
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Column Buckling

Hi all,

I am a big fan of the Burj Dubai and Iím very interested in its structure. I am studying second year civil engineering at the moment and currently learning about concrete structures.

I have a question I hope some of you may be able to answer regarding the columns. I donít know much about tall building design though so please bear with me if anything is wrong. I was wondering if the columns on the wing sections act as a slender column extending through enough floors such that the load carrying capacity is reduced by secondary moments, or do the floor slabs provide enough lateral bracing to make the columns essentially act as short stocky columns?

Then if they do act as slender columns, with such high weight loads transferred to the wing columns at some eccentricity, how would have the designers stopped this eccentric load from making the columns buckle out? I am assuming that the wing columns are taking most of this load whilst the core walls are taking some weight but mainly resisting the lateral forces.

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Old October 1st, 2007, 02:02 PM   #7567
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In general buckling length is from floor to floor. I guess it's the same at BD. Same principles only higher numbers because of the scale of the project
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Old October 1st, 2007, 02:24 PM   #7568
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how many floors left?
until the finished concrete probably 2, how many floors the steel-structure will contain is still a big question
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Old October 1st, 2007, 02:30 PM   #7569
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Super clear images AltinD, a pleasure to see! Thx.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 03:05 PM   #7570
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570 only.

I love it!

"Only" 570 meters!!

Seriously though, this is getting so tall that it almost doesnt seem that tall anymore, because it seems less and less real! In some of the shots that show the structure from the base to the top, the cladded areas almost dont look real either! It amazing how big this is already and to think that there is another 70-80 meters left of "habitable" floors (as we know it). Not to mention the spire itself which will look almost like a "continuation" of floors till
about the 740 meter point.

Its only a matter of time until we see if they did decide to increase the height of the concrete section, which is a big turning point that we have been waiting for. I remember us talking about this over a year ago when this thing was only 20-25 floors tall and didnt even have floor plates yet!

I have been watching the development of this wonder since it was at the stage where the foundation was being formed. Nobody had a certain answer regarding any of the dimensions, and we were all speculating sizes such as the square footage of the central core, and the length of each of the wings.
This secrecy BS was driving me nuts, and it still is although we are all much closer to having our curiosity satisfied.

I still find myself very curious of how everything will look inside.. what you will see right upon entering the building and approaching the elevator banks for example...
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Old October 1st, 2007, 03:19 PM   #7571
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Old October 1st, 2007, 03:24 PM   #7572
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Madness?

THIS! IS! DUBAI!!!

(sorry, i just saw 300 yesterday...)
You stole my joke!!
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Old October 1st, 2007, 03:26 PM   #7573
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Maybe a scaled down version of this 346 floors, 1800 meters tall proposal by TVS?


No...this thing is a proper building, not a tower. And it is a pure cone shape...no elaborate cladding or anything. A pure cone! The floor plates are circular and obviously decrease in area up the building.

It has three main external lines of support at the 0, 120 and 240 degree locations in plan.

I'd love to post a picture so you guys could see it, but I really would be doing the wrong thing if I did. I'm actually surprised by how much stuff does end up on this site, supposedly from employees of companies involved. Although I appreciate the pictures, it is unethical for them to do it if the information relaly is confidential. I assure you that if I can find out from someone that the information isn't confidential, I'll put up some pics.

Sorry to be a tease...I really thought someone on here would know what it is and actually wanted to satisfy my own curiosity, rather than start another mystery!

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Old October 1st, 2007, 03:34 PM   #7574
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From Gulf News today, all projects ahead of schedule.

http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/General/10157300.html

Is BD even ahead of its schedule? That is something I didnt know at all


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until the finished concrete probably 2, how many floors the steel-structure will contain is still a big question

Now that is a real probably, although I believe its more than that, 6 floors is my estimate
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Old October 1st, 2007, 03:35 PM   #7575
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When is the dismantling of the second crane scheduled?
Looking at the last update, this crane cannot rise much anymore and the core form is getting close to the crane.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:05 PM   #7576
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:45 PM   #7577
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sorry i have to post this pic as it is ! it is just so stunneshing !



i cant belive it is going to get mour then 250 m mour on top of that !
when the cladding is on this bulding is somthing we never sen befor ! sooo bjuteful !!!!
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Old October 1st, 2007, 06:15 PM   #7578
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Old October 1st, 2007, 07:37 PM   #7579
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reat pic, love the cladding!
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Old October 1st, 2007, 08:24 PM   #7580
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Is it 600 m tall now?
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