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Old May 24th, 2007, 04:18 PM   #1641
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The secret height thing is a marketing gimmick, and it works! Look at all these discussions.
Has there been any indication of when they are going to reveal the final height or will it just be "when its finished"?
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Old May 24th, 2007, 05:01 PM   #1642
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Graham ...


Tier 10 was originally a misprint at level 122.

So now you change it to 112 and that is your source ?

I was just going by the unchanged original diagram - Toyota

I am thinkin' Culwulla is probably correct though -

Yes - it was a typo - so as to avoid confusion I corrected it with the proven and photo born out number that is correct - so yes I go by that.

Culwulla is using a diagram here that has at least 10 corrections on it so it can't be official either.

I think the truth is that - as I said - there is no diagram ( that has not been edited ) that matches perfectly with the photo.
But the one I used is the closest so far even if it is 6 months old.
That was the whole point of the composite diagram.
You were using a way older diagram.
Now, as fellow Canadians we should not bicker.
There is no official latest diagram so its all speculation and guess work which is what I'm engaging in. It's fun.
Let's see your analysis.

Below is a L112 plan with the low setback wing shown to be stopped at a lower level. For what it's worth.


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Old May 24th, 2007, 06:03 PM   #1643
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you left mine out which half a mile or 804.5m ;-)
we've an own thread for that now....look at Mr. Alloy's signature for the link
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Old May 24th, 2007, 06:22 PM   #1644
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It would be interesting if the final top occupied floor reached 700m as mentioned earlier. That is impressive. For me I could not care less about how high the little red blinking light ends up being. 808, 804, 750, 1011..........irrelevant, it's just a radio tower at that point.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 06:37 PM   #1645
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It would be interesting if the final top occupied floor reached 700m as mentioned earlier. That is impressive. For me I could not care less about how high the little red blinking light ends up being. 808, 804, 750, 1011..........irrelevant, it's just a radio tower at that point.
You make a very good point.
Can always add another pole section on top.

I'm thinking the roof height is the most exciting thing right now.
If only we could figure out what that'll be and what sort of area it will be.
A small office, a private small apartment, a private ob deck of only 5 square meters?
Maybe it'll be really boring like a little workshop for communications maintenance.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 07:25 PM   #1646
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24/May/2007

Burj Dubai from Almas Tower-JLT

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Old May 24th, 2007, 07:47 PM   #1647
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Thanks for update Imre.
The weather looks not good for photography.
Can you tell me what camera you use please.

Thanks.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:01 PM   #1648
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Thanks, Canon EOS20D , weather was not too bad , but the distance is too big.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:19 PM   #1649
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on a clear day with a "very" good camera the distance shouldn't be a big problem
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:20 PM   #1650
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Thanks for pics, are there smog in Dubai? :S
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #1651
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Thanks, Canon EOS20D , weather was not too bad , but the distance is too big.
Yes, that's a very nice camera.
The distance - it's true.

May we ask that you get some close up shots that show the area between 95 level and the top, on the side with the medium height setbacks.
You have done this before very well.
The next few weeks of photos might tell a big story from this area.
Sun behind back if possible. Thanks man.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:58 PM   #1652
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Latest in business
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Published: Thursday, May 24, 2007

Montreal firm to design Dubai elevators

Montreal industrial designer GSM Design said today it has been selected by U.S. elevator giant Otis to make the interiors of the cars that will whisk visitors to the 124th floor observatory of Burj Dubai, soon to become the world's highest building with over 200 storeys. GSM, which has already designed the Burj Dubai observatory, will manage construction of the cars in Dubai. The two-level elevator cars will be the world's fastest travelling at more than 35 kilometres an hour.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 09:17 PM   #1653
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interesting. hopefully they're right with "over 200 storeys". the 818m version has not 200 i believe
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Old May 24th, 2007, 09:23 PM   #1654
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Don't forget that we are talking of a distance of 20 km
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Old May 24th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #1655
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That’s unbelievable, I had to F11 my screen to see it!
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Old May 24th, 2007, 09:53 PM   #1656
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That model perspective is gorgeous.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 10:10 PM   #1657
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but you can't see much of the height

@altinD: i know it's far away. and imre has a good camera!
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Old May 24th, 2007, 10:21 PM   #1658
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Burj Dubai takes on a shimmering glass façade

Burj Dubai, on course to becoming the world’s tallest tower, is taking its final shimmering form as installation of curtain wall glass panels commenced on Level 19 of the super-structure developed by Emaar Properties. Burj Dubai is currently over 125 floors tall and one of the five tallest structures in the world.

“The structure of Burj Dubai is progressing on schedule and, now, with the start of the curtain wall installation, the finishing works will proceed at full speed. With the tower’s façade being put in place the elegant shape and form as envisaged in the architectural design will become reality,” said Mr Greg Sang, Assistant Director - Projects, Emaar Properties. “The contractors have put in place an accelerated programme to fabricate and install the panels, which will enable the on-schedule completion of the tower.”

Al Ghurair Construction Industries, representing the contractor Arabian Aluminium Company, and Hong Kong-based Far East Aluminium Works, their joint venture partner, started the cladding work, which lends an elegant glass façade for the tower.

The first batch of cladding comprises 25 panels specially fabricated using advanced engineering techniques and air-freighted to Dubai. Made of high-performance materials, the curtain wall will enhance the building’s distinctive appearance and seal the interior from the external heat, wind, moisture, and noise.

“The start of curtain wall installation on Burj Dubai, ahead of our schedule, has been a challenging task and memorable achievement for us,” said Bashar Kayali, General Manager, Arabian Aluminium Company. “This accomplishment will power us to undertake the rest of the work at an accelerated pace.”

Senior executives of Emaar Properties; Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM); Turner Construction – International; Hyder Consulting Middle East Ltd, ALT Cladding Inc; Samsung Corporation; Arabian Aluminium Co and Far East Aluminium Works Co Ltd attended the installation ceremony.

The installation works are undertaken through a judicious blend of advanced engineering techniques and hands-on practicality. The cladding panels are first loaded onto the installation floors before being moved into position using small cranes. The panels will be finally hung using a series of monorails every 30 to 40 storeys. The total area of the cladding will be equivalent to 17 football fields (25 American soccer fields).

The façade is designed as a factory-assembled panelized system, ensuring the units are put together with a high degree of accuracy and consistency. Each panel is factory glazed, sealed and prepared for site installation. The precise engineering of the custom design ensures the repetitive manufacture of the over 22,000 units required will be of the highest quality, while enabling rapid fabrication and installation.

The cladding will be cleaned using an advanced window washing and façade maintenance system consisting of twelve permanently-installed, track-mounted, telescopic building maintenance machines located in internal garages at the tower’s mechanical zones.

The manned cleaning cradles of the machines will be capable of serving the entire facade from its garage level downward to level 5 with jib arm lengths when fully extended of over 20 metres.

Burj Dubai is at the heart of Downtown Burj Dubai, an AED 73 billion (US$20 billion) mixed-use project featuring residences, commercial space, hospitality projects and several retail outlets including The Dubai Mall, one of the world’s largest shopping and entertainment destinations.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 10:47 PM   #1659
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does someone know the floor efficiency rates of the different tiers?

And of the whole buidling?
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Old May 24th, 2007, 11:29 PM   #1660
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CTBUH diagram on a news bulletin shows Burj Dubai at 850 meters. But then again Taipei 101 is at 600m so go figure..

http://www.ctbuh.org/News/View.aspx?Articleid=70
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