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Old April 28th, 2007, 08:23 PM   #161
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isnt it weird to have offices above the condos/hotels?
, thought the same. i think for tourists it must be a lot more interesting to sleep in over 500m than in under 390 . but maybe it is because of the space for the hotel part which is much bigger in the first half of the tower
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Old April 28th, 2007, 08:27 PM   #162
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I have mentioned what hight..and also...that the record is unofficial.....my opinion is that BD is at 450m I don't need EMAAR press release to know the hight of the building.....
If no one believes me I dare u all to number the floors of the building you'll all se that it has 126f and that my record is right...BD has the tallest floor in the world at 450m
The numbers you are quoting are fake.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 09:07 PM   #163
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The numbers you are quoting are fake.
according to the PowerPoint presentation Level 124 is at 442m.
If the building is indeed now on 126 (i havent analyzed that last pic to check), and 4.5m per floor (now) then add on 9m and it's around 451m in height.

Level 124 is where they'll be starting to re-pump the concrete (the secondary pumping) upto 624m and then by hopper for the bit up to 682m.
See pg28 of the powerpoint presentation for details.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 09:10 PM   #164
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they'll never pump concrete to 682m because the concrete core stops at ~586m
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Old April 28th, 2007, 09:33 PM   #165
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according to the PowerPoint presentation Level 124 is at 442m.
If the building is indeed now on 126 (i havent analyzed that last pic to check), and 4.5m per floor (now) then add on 9m and it's around 451m in height.

Level 124 is where they'll be starting to re-pump the concrete (the secondary pumping) upto 624m and then by hopper for the bit up to 682m.
See pg28 of the powerpoint presentation for details.
450.61m - 1,476 ft to be much more exact....I have mentioned the record hight one page before this one..
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Old April 28th, 2007, 10:06 PM   #166
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I have mentioned what hight..and also...that the record is unofficial.....my opinion is that BD is at 450m I don't need EMAAR press release to know the hight of the building.....
If no one believes me I dare u all to number the floors of the building you'll all se that it has 126f and that my record is right...BD has the tallest floor in the world at 450m
Absolutely correct, Hollie Maea doesn't believe anything I post on that site, so don't worry, time will be our vindication so I'm not too fussed!
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Old April 28th, 2007, 10:13 PM   #167
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, thought the same. i think for tourists it must be a lot more interesting to sleep in over 500m than in under 390 . but maybe it is because of the space for the hotel part which is much bigger in the first half of the tower

It can think of three reasons why Emaar or Armani might have residences/hotel rooms on the lower floors

a) The lower the floors, the cheaper the lease. For Armani, it just might be too cost prohibitive to have high floors, and not make sense business wise.

b) The lower the floor, the greater the square footage. You don't need a large office to work in, living space has to be larger.

c) Safety -- offices are filled only 1/3 of the day, whereas residences/hotel rooms considerably more. If a fire breaks out, you've got a greater chance of the more difficult/higher floors not being occupied if they are designated office, rather than residence/hotel.


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Old April 28th, 2007, 10:17 PM   #168
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what does Adrian smith mean by " See the cover of my new monograph for an "accurate drawing of the elevation of Burj Dubai."
is he talking about the a accurate height ?
if so already have the book of Adrian Smith, and i closely looked at it. and scaled it down and it does show it going for 800m+
I've re-created the same monographed version on the main page of the site and made a flash video of it growing, notice how it does have an extra set of setbacks before the more slender pinnacle heights comes to a sharper point like Greg Sang said earlier this year. When I scaled it, it's not far off 1000m in height.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 10:22 PM   #169
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Absolutely correct, Hollie Maea doesn't believe anything I post on that site, so don't worry, time will be our vindication so I'm not too fussed!
I gave you the benefit of the doubt for a couple months. I wouldn't be making brash claims unless I did my homework. I know 100 percent the source of those numbers so you can't just blame me for just being opposed to you. Let it go with the TechE thing, man, it is not worth it.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 10:33 PM   #170
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why don't they start to clad the surface of the lower parts of the tower?
Becouse the facade has been delayed, it will arrive in June, from China i believe
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Old April 28th, 2007, 10:41 PM   #171
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I've re-created the same monographed version on the main page of the site and made a flash video of it growing, notice how it does have an extra set of setbacks before the more slender pinnacle heights comes to a sharper point like Greg Sang said earlier this year. When I scaled it, it's not far off 1000m in height.
what are you talking about? the 4th mech floors are more than half way up the tower in that picture! so its the 808m design and doesnt come close to the 1000m limit. so like wtf?
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Old April 28th, 2007, 11:18 PM   #172
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Took this photo 28th April
Wow. Now it's really getting insane.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 11:22 PM   #173
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And that is becouse they are offices, unlike the ones below that were hotel and condos.
Wouldn't the uneven floor heights look weird when the cladding is up?
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Old April 28th, 2007, 11:51 PM   #174
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Wouldn't the uneven floor heights look weird when the cladding is up?
not if all the cladding is the same size and they just worked out how to all make it fit seemlessly
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Old April 29th, 2007, 12:11 AM   #175
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Exactly. Everything is though through on the design process of the tower.
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Old April 29th, 2007, 12:14 AM   #176
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It can think of three reasons why Emaar or Armani might have residences/hotel rooms on the lower floors

a) The lower the floors, the cheaper the lease. For Armani, it just might be too cost prohibitive to have high floors, and not make sense business wise.

b) The lower the floor, the greater the square footage. You don't need a large office to work in, living space has to be larger.

c) Safety -- offices are filled only 1/3 of the day, whereas residences/hotel rooms considerably more. If a fire breaks out, you've got a greater chance of the more difficult/higher floors not being occupied if they are designated office, rather than residence/hotel.


b) Is ABSOLUTELY correct

c) Makes perfect sense so it should have been considered during the design stage.

a) Unfortunatelly this is wrong.

ARMANI Hotel is a 50/50 JV between EMAAR Hotels and GIOGIO ARMANI Design House. Armani gives the name as well as design and furbish the interiours, while also supplying the hotels. EMAAR pays for the construction so nothing is going out of Armani's bank accounts.
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Old April 29th, 2007, 01:37 AM   #177
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Hi ppl. First post for me here. some nice updates will be coming tomorrow by me
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Old April 29th, 2007, 03:33 AM   #178
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i dont know why everyone hasnt made more or a big deal out of this picture, its seems 100% legit to me, its too accurate for sumone to have made it up, its very precise....i know it was posted earlier but we really should discuss this more.



you can see soo many things from this:

1. that the spire is 112m tall

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Old April 29th, 2007, 04:51 AM   #179
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they'll never pump concrete to 682m because the concrete core stops at ~586m
But the steel portion of the tower still has concrete, doesn't it? It's not just bare steel.
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Old April 29th, 2007, 05:12 AM   #180
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this building has complicated layout
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