EURO 2012: Poland and Ukraine Stadia and Infrastructure - Page 27

earth intruder · December 3rd, 2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paku

Exactly. Lots of blah blah without a point. If others want to start a "Ukraine&Poland 2012 unpreparedness thread", then go ahead. I want to see just the news, not bullshit talk.

thats right... stop spamming!!

vogafe · December 3rd, 2007, 04:14 PM

What a stupid discussion! Stop it right now, still both have plenty to do!

Adiks · December 3rd, 2007, 07:47 PM

Weirdo

The discussion stopped yesterday and sice then ur the fifth person in a row to tell ppl to stop going off top but in fact the discussion is already done. Don't you think that just 1 comment telling not to spam is enough? Its ironic that u are making ot by saying not to do it (anyway my post is ot as well

, but I just wanted to express how it feels)

Second City · December 3rd, 2007, 07:49 PM

Ukraine coach concerned about Kiev stadium for Euro 2012

KIEV, Dec 3 (Reuters) - A dispute surrounding a construction site next to Kiev's main stadium could lead to Ukraine losing the chance to host the final of the 2012 European championship, national coach Oleg Blokhin warned on Monday.
Ukraine are co-hosting the tournament with Poland but both FIFA and UEFA have said the construction of a shopping and leisure centre by Kiev's 84,000-seat Soviet-era Olympic stadium would break safety rules by blocking some emergency exits.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/break...123179,00.html

vogafe · December 5th, 2007, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adiks

Weirdo

The discussion stopped yesterday and sice then ur the fifth person in a row to tell ppl to stop going off top but in fact the discussion is already done. Don't you think that just 1 comment telling not to spam is enough? Its ironic that u are making ot by saying not to do it (anyway my post is ot as well

, but I just wanted to express how it feels)

What you gonna cry now?

Kuvvaci · December 6th, 2007, 09:40 AM

Guys please keep this thread warm. As you know many forumers are so interesting in this thread. Plz make new updates.

I also want to say something, after weak 2008 venues and complexes, 2012 will be so different. Bravo to both countries.

slonychips · December 8th, 2007, 01:58 PM

New Visualisation of Baltic Arena Gdansk

ufonut · December 8th, 2007, 06:21 PM

Wroclaw (45.000 capacity)- construction starts in the 3rd quarter of 2008
Warszawa (55.000 capacity)- construction starts in the 3rd/4th quarter of 2008

sampras · December 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM

Poznan update:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mateq

***www.sercan.de*** · December 10th, 2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuvvaci

Guys please keep this thread warm. As you know many forumers are so interesting in this thread. Plz make new updates.

I also want to say something, after weak 2008 venues and complexes, 2012 will be so different. Bravo to both countries.

Yeah, you are building many +40.000 stadiums although you just need +30.000.

Maybe therefore Turkey will built for EURO 2016 or EURO 2020 more +40.000 stadiums

Genç · December 10th, 2007, 02:01 PM

I think it's much better to build 40k+ though - it's more impressive, brings in more money and leaves behind much better stadia for after the competition.

IMO, building ~30k stadiums [for Euro competitions] are a waste.

sampras · December 10th, 2007, 03:26 PM

I'm not sure if you're right, as in many countries even 30k stadiums will be empty during no-EURO games probably. And as we all know it is all about the money. If on 40k stadium there will be 8-12k of spectators on league games no club will be able to pay the bills...

....but on the other hand 30k is not enough for EURO games

***VelesHomais*** · December 10th, 2007, 05:34 PM

The thread is over 500 posts, shouldn't it be closed and a new one opened?

vogafe · December 11th, 2007, 05:59 PM

Let's wait till 1000 post

We still have got a lot of contruction ahead of us.

Mdxavita · December 12th, 2007, 05:49 PM

toda la infraestructura sorprende

Mdxavita · December 12th, 2007, 05:50 PM

los estadios para la euro 2012 muy bonitos

vogafe · December 12th, 2007, 07:35 PM

WTF ? Viva Polonia, Viva Ucraina!

***VelesHomais*** · December 14th, 2007, 12:37 AM

Infrastructure news: Kyiv will soon build (unclear to what extent) and utilize Siemens trams. Some controversy around it, since LAZ (Lviv Auto Zavod) is coming out with their trams in a few months. In any case, by 2012 Kyivan transportation system will completely replace metro's and trams.

From presentation of the Siemens:

The new LAZ (completely ukrainian engineered, designed and made) tram. Unfortunately only a black-and-white xeroxed pic

but it will probably look cool

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Donbas Arena continues to rise despite some problems with the Turkish company. Notice their new logo

New logo of "Shahtar"

Dnipro Stadium is pretty much completed

Lviv: the investor of the Lvivian stadium will be known by december 18th. The city approved project plans for:

33 hectares of land to be utilized. Capacity of 33000 football arena. 1200 parking spaces. Three stars hotel for 200 or more rooms. Sport-concert complex with capacity of 7000 or more.

paku · December 15th, 2007, 02:44 AM

Nice development.

That new logo of Shahtar oddly reminds me of a certain company's logo, located further in the East.

Pavlo · December 15th, 2007, 02:54 AM

Lol, we actually had a discussion on that in the Ukrainian section. But it's got nothing to do with it, Akhmetov is his own man

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December 3rd, 2007, 07:47 PM	#523
Adiks Unhappy one Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: there --> Posts: 298 Likes (Received): 2	Weirdo The discussion stopped yesterday and sice then ur the fifth person in a row to tell ppl to stop going off top but in fact the discussion is already done. Don't you think that just 1 comment telling not to spam is enough? Its ironic that u are making ot by saying not to do it (anyway my post is ot as well, but I just wanted to express how it feels)

December 3rd, 2007, 07:49 PM	#524
Second City Loyola University Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 909 Likes (Received): 0	Ukraine coach concerned about Kiev stadium for Euro 2012 KIEV, Dec 3 (Reuters) - A dispute surrounding a construction site next to Kiev's main stadium could lead to Ukraine losing the chance to host the final of the 2012 European championship, national coach Oleg Blokhin warned on Monday. Ukraine are co-hosting the tournament with Poland but both FIFA and UEFA have said the construction of a shopping and leisure centre by Kiev's 84,000-seat Soviet-era Olympic stadium would break safety rules by blocking some emergency exits. http://football.guardian.co.uk/break...123179,00.html __________________ “Eventually, I think Chicago will be the most beautiful great city left in the world.” Frank Lloyd Wright

December 6th, 2007, 09:40 AM	#526
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,016 Likes (Received): 19	Guys please keep this thread warm. As you know many forumers are so interesting in this thread. Plz make new updates. I also want to say something, after weak 2008 venues and complexes, 2012 will be so different. Bravo to both countries. __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

December 8th, 2007, 06:21 PM	#528
ufonut Atlantyda Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,568 Likes (Received): 33	Wroclaw (45.000 capacity)- construction starts in the 3rd quarter of 2008 Warszawa (55.000 capacity)- construction starts in the 3rd/4th quarter of 2008 __________________ Global Trekker

December 3rd, 2007, 04:14 PM	#522
vogafe Poland Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chojnice Posts: 463 Likes (Received): 0	What a stupid discussion! Stop it right now, still both have plenty to do!

December 8th, 2007, 01:58 PM	#527
slonychips BANNED Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: B*tch please... I'm from Katowice! Posts: 1,313 Likes (Received): 0	New Visualisation of Baltic Arena Gdansk

December 10th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#531
Genç re re re ra ra ra Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 4,717 Likes (Received): 9	I think it's much better to build 40k+ though - it's more impressive, brings in more money and leaves behind much better stadia for after the competition. IMO, building ~30k stadiums [for Euro competitions] are a waste. __________________ ASLANTEPE. \| the new home of Galatasaray SK

December 10th, 2007, 03:26 PM	#532
sampras V Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Doha (Qatar) / Poznań (Polska) Posts: 755 Likes (Received): 0	I'm not sure if you're right, as in many countries even 30k stadiums will be empty during no-EURO games probably. And as we all know it is all about the money. If on 40k stadium there will be 8-12k of spectators on league games no club will be able to pay the bills... ....but on the other hand 30k is not enough for EURO games __________________ [ Art 54 ust. 1 KRP "Każdemu zapewnia się wolność wyrażania swoich poglądów oraz pozyskiwania i rozpowszechniania informacji." ] software is like sex - it is much better when it is free

December 10th, 2007, 05:34 PM	#533
*VelesHomais* aspiring cyborg Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NYC \| KYIV \| MINSK Posts: 18,736 Likes (Received): 245	The thread is over 500 posts, shouldn't it be closed and a new one opened? __________________ The Future Is Now - join us for intellectually stimulating and informative discussions

December 11th, 2007, 05:59 PM	#534
vogafe Poland Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chojnice Posts: 463 Likes (Received): 0	Let's wait till 1000 post We still have got a lot of contruction ahead of us.

December 12th, 2007, 05:49 PM	#535
Mdxavita BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: -Cix- Posts: 176 Likes (Received): 0	toda la infraestructura sorprende

December 12th, 2007, 05:50 PM	#536
Mdxavita BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: -Cix- Posts: 176 Likes (Received): 0	los estadios para la euro 2012 muy bonitos

December 12th, 2007, 07:35 PM	#537
vogafe Poland Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chojnice Posts: 463 Likes (Received): 0	WTF ? Viva Polonia, Viva Ucraina!

December 14th, 2007, 12:37 AM	#538
*VelesHomais* aspiring cyborg Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NYC \| KYIV \| MINSK Posts: 18,736 Likes (Received): 245	Infrastructure news: Kyiv will soon build (unclear to what extent) and utilize Siemens trams. Some controversy around it, since LAZ (Lviv Auto Zavod) is coming out with their trams in a few months. In any case, by 2012 Kyivan transportation system will completely replace metro's and trams. From presentation of the Siemens: The new LAZ (completely ukrainian engineered, designed and made) tram. Unfortunately only a black-and-white xeroxed pic but it will probably look cool _____ Donbas Arena continues to rise despite some problems with the Turkish company. Notice their new logo New logo of "Shahtar" Dnipro Stadium is pretty much completed Lviv: the investor of the Lvivian stadium will be known by december 18th. The city approved project plans for: 33 hectares of land to be utilized. Capacity of 33000 football arena. 1200 parking spaces. Three stars hotel for 200 or more rooms. Sport-concert complex with capacity of 7000 or more. __________________ The Future Is Now - join us for intellectually stimulating and informative discussions Last edited by VelesHomais; December 14th, 2007 at 12:46 AM.

December 15th, 2007, 02:44 AM	#539
paku polished and finnished Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Helsinki, Wroclaw Posts: 1,808 Likes (Received): 57	Nice development. That new logo of Shahtar oddly reminds me of a certain company's logo, located further in the East.

December 15th, 2007, 02:54 AM	#540
Pavlo Старий Мейсон Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lviv Posts: 5,350	Lol, we actually had a discussion on that in the Ukrainian section. But it's got nothing to do with it, Akhmetov is his own man __________________ Opinions are the cheapest commodities on Earth

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