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Old May 15th, 2007, 08:07 AM   #41
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so your saying by south korea is better in a way but i want it to link China and Taiwan and Russia as well

hmm you got a point here is a map if anybody can figure out a route then tell me about this ok?



then where would be a feasble solution for the Japan Portal of the Asia Tunnels?
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Old May 15th, 2007, 08:10 AM   #42
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hmm then what shinkansen Route will it follow then i mean sure it with??

i know the tokidao shinkansen route is the most busiest so i can't make it overload?

so i need to look for another route
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Old May 15th, 2007, 05:16 PM   #43
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hmm then what shinkansen Route will it follow then i mean sure it with??

i know the tokidao shinkansen route is the most busiest so i can't make it overload?

so i need to look for another route
The Russians, 10 to 15 years ago propsed a northern route with a tunnel to Sakhalin island and bridge to the main land. The distance for these structures were reasonable but the climate is a problem.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 07:13 PM   #44
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i know but there needs to be another reasonable and feaisble solution to this and well i am still thinking of a new path

can anybody help me with the new path

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Old May 17th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #45
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I can only see one access link being built WITHIN THIS CENTURY....and that would obviously be the Japan-Sakhalin-Russia link.

The link between Russia and Sakhalin will be handled by the Russian side obviously....while the Japan side would manage the link between Sakhalin and Hokkaido-Sapporo. Unfortunately, these areas are the coldest parts of Russia and Japan respectively and this would obviously make construction difficult. Thus, it is important to build during the hottest time of year (which is still even cold by today's standards).

But aside from those, construction would be easy because there are no geopolitical conflicts arising (Japan doesn't have a conflict with Russia and are in fact quite friendly). This is the only access link (rail and vehicular) that would be built within this century (before year 2100).

As for those other links (Korea-Japan and China-Taiwan), those won't happen within this century. Political rivalry and tensions have existed since decades ago and at the moment, these tensions are now at an all-time high so construction of these won't happen in our lifetime and definitely not within this century.

We and all of our children will be dead before those access links can be built.

Sad.....but the reality is harsh. Those two won't happen till the next century.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 05:34 PM   #46
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But aside from those, construction would be easy because there are no geopolitical conflicts arising (Japan doesn't have a conflict with Russia and are in fact quite friendly). This is the only access link (rail and vehicular) that would be built within this century (before year 2100).
yeah they dont..Japan claims 4 islands which Russia now controls, this rail link will go very well with that.
why should there be a link by the way? RUS Far East and Hokkaido are the regions with lowest population density in their respective countries.
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Old May 18th, 2007, 07:44 AM   #47
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技術的には可能ですし、リニアを通しても面白いかもしれません。しかし中国が民主主義になり分裂し、ロシアが北方領土を還しVladivostok(東方を征服と言う意味)の名前を変えないと日本は見とめません。世界地図を見てください。

I am possible technically and may be interesting through a rhynia. However, China becomes democratic and is divided and Japan watches it unless Russia gives back the northern territories and changes a name of Vladivostok (a meaning to call the east conquest) and cannot be rich.
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Old May 18th, 2007, 03:55 PM   #48
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フリーの機械翻訳サイトは全く意味不明な文にしかならない(下手したら元と逆の意味になることもある)ので、仮に英語に自信がなかったとしてもご自分で英文を書いた方が機械翻訳よりは良いかと思います。
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Old May 21st, 2007, 11:19 AM   #49
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I can only see one access link being built WITHIN THIS CENTURY....and that would obviously be the Japan-Sakhalin-Russia link.

The link between Russia and Sakhalin will be handled by the Russian side obviously....while the Japan side would manage the link between Sakhalin and Hokkaido-Sapporo. Unfortunately, these areas are the coldest parts of Russia and Japan respectively and this would obviously make construction difficult. Thus, it is important to build during the hottest time of year (which is still even cold by today's standards).

But aside from those, construction would be easy because there are no geopolitical conflicts arising (Japan doesn't have a conflict with Russia and are in fact quite friendly). This is the only access link (rail and vehicular) that would be built within this century (before year 2100).

As for those other links (Korea-Japan and China-Taiwan), those won't happen within this century. Political rivalry and tensions have existed since decades ago and at the moment, these tensions are now at an all-time high so construction of these won't happen in our lifetime and definitely not within this century.

We and all of our children will be dead before those access links can be built.

Sad.....but the reality is harsh. Those two won't happen till the next century.
well i think within 10 yrs time, china will be able to take back taiwan, by than china would have a arm force comparable to that of USA, so that the taiwan china route will be construct in our life time : )
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:51 PM   #50
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but i still need to think of the route

i want it to follow the shinkansen so it would be cheaper but i don't know

i mean following the tokiado shinkansen would not be pratical because there is already too much traffic on the Tokiado Shinkansen

i need to find a shinkansen that it can follow without tokiado shinkansen

can anybody here help me with a route, remember the Tokyo International Station will be underground deep underground about 4 stories because the density that is around the Tokyo Station
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Old May 24th, 2007, 05:19 PM   #51
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well i think within 10 yrs time, china will be able to take back taiwan, by than china would have a arm force comparable to that of USA, so that the taiwan china route will be construct in our life time : )
You wish. Taiwan will be by then recognised as the legitimate state and back in the UN. Who wants to deal with a communist country? I'd certainly Taiwan over China anyday.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 05:28 PM   #52
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but Kuril and Sakhalin islands was part of Japan and should be given back to Japan from Russia because Russians grabbed them in closing days of WWII

if they was under Japanese rule atleast today they would have been prosperous and well developed like the rest of modern Japan
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Sakhalin island was originally part of China, Russia took it after Treaty of Aigun and Japan took it from Russia after winning Russo Japanese wars.
Kuril was probably part of Japan though. But even Hokkidao only became part of Japan during late 19th century. The original inhabitants on those islands are neither Russian or Japanese.
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But even Hokkidao only became part of Japan during late 19th century. The original inhabitants on those islands are neither Russian or Japanese.
ok thanks for that, so who are the original inhabitants of Hokkidao?
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Ainu people.
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Old May 25th, 2007, 12:21 AM   #56
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Ainu people.
?? who are they chinese?
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Old May 25th, 2007, 10:17 AM   #57
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I let Russia lets Ainu emigrate to Hokkaido and occupies Sakhalin, and a Russian live. Of course Japan does not develop because I do not help you.
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Old May 25th, 2007, 11:26 AM   #58
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i think build towards korea is similar distance as britain n france, bt need 2 make n.korea agree 2 da plan as wel, n north n south korea r consultin about trains go through both countries, so might be feasible, dis wil be different 2 eurostar, consider china wil be da biggest economy, dis wil link the future biggest econmy n second biggest economy japan, n between is also the worlds 9th biggest econmy korea, so dis wil bring alot economic benefit. this will cut the delivery freight time from japan to europe that is currently operatin by ships which is much longer route
OMG. . . how lazy can you get by not typing out complete words. . ARGH! Reading your post makes my brain go haywired.
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You wish. Taiwan will be by then recognised as the legitimate state and back in the UN. Who wants to deal with a communist country? I'd certainly Taiwan over China anyday.

Where have you been lately? Everybody deals with China these days whether it is communist or not. The future will be no different because the Chinese market and economy is now too large to ignore. Seriously even if China becomes democratic you think they would give up Taiwan? I don't think so at least I wouldn't. Lets try to stay on topic and avoid politics shall we?
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The only route feasible is from Kyushu to South Korea. As for the northern route to Russia NOT POSSIBLE! There is barely anyone living in those regions why construct such an expensive tunnel or link on top of no mans land? If I were to go to China or Korea would I want to take that train all the way to northern Japan then to Russia then back down? Hell no. I rather take the plane.
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