International Schools in the Philippines and Philippine Schools abroad

[ryanr]

damn...i didnt see this thread earlier. I could have put my two cents earlier. I'm familiar with international schools because I came from an international school (from elementary to high school graduation). Although I'm not familiar with ISM per se, I can relate because my school is in the same regional organization as ISM (IASAS: Interscholastic Association of Southeast Asian Schools).

Although true, much of what has been said here does stretch the issue. Yes, many of the local students are there because they are the so called 'elite' and their parents have the bank accounts to pay for their ridiculously high tuition fees. But it is not fair to say that these kids are spoiled, dumb and are only in ISM to flaunt their wealth. Many of the local students are intelligent and do very well both academically and in extra-curricular activities. Going to an international school is a great experience in being involved and interacting with many different cultures. To me, that is the best thing that i got out of my education. It enabled be to see the world much more openly. Furthermore, international education programs like the IB or AP (International Baccalaureate and Advanced Placement) allows students to be better prepared and trained for university education...I'm not aware of any local schools that offer these programs, please correct me if I'm wrong. So no, it is not fair to generalize students in ISM as snobs as they are there to experience an entirely different education system, one that I took for granted but now realize that I was privileged enough to experience it. And to me, this is what parents are really paying big money for.

Yes, there are some select kids out there that are just outright snobbish and get poor grades. But what school doesnt? I've encountered wealthy local students who walk around with their gucci shoes, prada bags and drive in with their high end BMW...but they do not represent every student in the school.

[frustratedarchitect]

Its very sad reading those ugly stereotypes and ignorant statements about students coming from international schools. For instance in Brent Baguio students live in dormitories and rarely would you see anyone flaunting chanel or a mercedes. And I do get irritated with those who does. Most often you'd see students there sweating in their PE unifroms while the others engrossed in watercolor projects.

Ive seen more arrogance from bourgeois Filipinos who attend these schools.

FYI to the one who said they lack morality and intellect. Many of those students get accepted in prestigious universities abroad not because they have the money coz you can't bribe those schools with it.

and yeah. Lets get back to talking about skyscrapers shall we?

[c0kelitr0]

very well-said

[gen1]

Originally Posted by frustratedarchitect

Its very sad reading those ugly stereotypes and ignorant statements about students coming from international schools. For instance in Brent Baguio students live in dormitories and rarely would you see anyone flaunting chanel or a mercedes. And I do get irritated with those who does. Most often you'd see students there sweating in their PE unifroms while the others engrossed in watercolor projects.

Ive seen more arrogance from bourgeois Filipinos who attend these schools.

FYI to the one who said they lack morality and intellect. Many of those students get accepted in prestigious universities abroad not because they have the money coz you can't bribe those schools with it.

and yeah. Lets get back to talking about skyscrapers shall we?

so what you're saying is that expat kids in international schools are ok but filipino students in international schools are arrogant ?

[iloilocitykid]

He has a point. He really did not mean all of them you know...

[WawaY[625]]

Originally Posted by lancerski

I think there are two japanese schools in davao:
1. Philippine Nikkei-Jin Kai International School (PNJK-IS)
2. Mindanao Kokusai Daigaku (Mindanao International College) (MKD)

http://pam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao_Lakanbalen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao_City#Education

pero yang mindanao kokusai daigaku, if thats the one near microtel inn, diba marami din pilipino na mag-aaral dyan?


mayroon din american school faith academy ata yun, anak ng mga missionaries ang nag-aaral, dunno kung may pilipino dun

[gen1]

Originally Posted by iloilocitykid

He has a point. He really did not mean all of them you know...

ok. but to be fair to those poor ultra rich pinoy kids in IS schools, quite a few of the expat kids are also very arrogant.

you should see how they treat their yayas and drivers in school. lupeeet !

[lightsaber46]

is anyone familiar with the u/c World Citi College?? in Antipolo

[Colonel Burger]

Originally Posted by lightsaber46

is anyone familiar with the u/c World Citi College?? in Antipolo

I am.... hehehe bagal nga ng construction eh

[frustratedarchitect]

Brent Baguio.com


Here, (in some of the pics, students are doing some sort of community service.


Brent Baguio is the first Brent campus in the Philippines.

[renell]

Like ryanr I went to an international school but it was in Brussels, not in the Philippines. There I knew... about one or two locals i.e. they were Belgian, the rest were foreigners. No yayas there, some kids biked, took a bus, walk. I'm sure the situation is much different in the Philippines. Then again the situation is quite different.

I agree with Queetz that International Schools doesn't necessarily offer the best education, but simply the most expensive one. The biggest problem though is that those schools have the capacity to be the best, but their intake does not reflect intelligence but bank accounts. In the greater picture it's merely a superficial mole that reflects the rich getting richer in Filipino society. The discipline is much more lax in an American-styled school; this does not mean there are more troublemakers but those that exist are given more freedom.

On the other hand of this thread, I did not know there were such things as "Filipino Schools" like that one kiretoce posted. Surely when I'm old and have kids I wouldn't mind sending them into one.. like a weekend school thing. I had a Japanese friend who would go to Japanese school on weekends; sure she hated it, but in the end she retained her Japanese-ness.

[vanderites]

Brent baguio is already like a korean school! 70 percent of the population is koreans! hahahha!! lol
source: i study there!

[frustratedarchitect]

All ( or most) schools in Baguio have been taken over by Koreans. lol. even condominiums are being set up targeting the Korean population.

[PINOYmeat]

i dunno if na post na to dito, cebu international school, video here...

[gen1]

Originally Posted by renell

Like ryanr I went to an international school but it was in Brussels, not in the Philippines. There I knew... about one or two locals i.e. they were Belgian, the rest were foreigners. No yayas there, some kids biked, took a bus, walk. I'm sure the situation is much different in the Philippines. Then again the situation is quite different.

I agree with Queetz that International Schools doesn't necessarily offer the best education, but simply the most expensive one. The biggest problem though is that those schools have the capacity to be the best, but their intake does not reflect intelligence but bank accounts. In the greater picture it's merely a superficial mole that reflects the rich getting richer in Filipino society. The discipline is much more lax in an American-styled school; this does not mean there are more troublemakers but those that exist are given more freedom.

On the other hand of this thread, I did not know there were such things as "Filipino Schools" like that one kiretoce posted. Surely when I'm old and have kids I wouldn't mind sending them into one.. like a weekend school thing. I had a Japanese friend who would go to Japanese school on weekends; sure she hated it, but in the end she retained her Japanese-ness.

he, he. I don't think the belgians will send their kids to an international (american) school in their own country. europeans look down on americans

I still think the International School Manila is the best school if one wants to send his kid to an american university as much as the british school manila is the best school for a kid who wants to go to oxford.

They will definitely get great help from the highly paid teachers (the locally hired teachers at ISM earn as much ayala corp VPs)

Discpline in ISM is as lax as could be expected in, say, a US high school. lots of smooching going on in the corridors. If discipline is desired, british school manila may be the school for you.

[renell]

Originally Posted by vanderites

Brent baguio is already like a korean school! 70 percent of the population is koreans! hahahha!! lol
source: i study there!

if it was a korean school lilipat yung mga korean diyan. kasi english school kaya nadiyan sila. kung gusto nilang ng "korean school" uuwi sila

@gen1, yeah their education system is just as fine, and for all the extra fees, it's not worth it for them

[frustratedarchitect]

Originally Posted by renell

Like ryanr I went to an international school but it was in Brussels, not in the Philippines. There I knew... about one or two locals i.e. they were Belgian, the rest were foreigners. No yayas there, some kids biked, took a bus, walk. I'm sure the situation is much different in the Philippines. Then again the situation is quite different.

I agree with Queetz that International Schools doesn't necessarily offer the best education, but simply the most expensive one. The biggest problem though is that those schools have the capacity to be the best, but their intake does not reflect intelligence but bank accounts. In the greater picture it's merely a superficial mole that reflects the rich getting richer in Filipino society. The discipline is much more lax in an American-styled school; this does not mean there are more troublemakers but those that exist are given more freedom.

On the other hand of this thread, I did not know there were such things as "Filipino Schools" like that one kiretoce posted. Surely when I'm old and have kids I wouldn't mind sending them into one.. like a weekend school thing. I had a Japanese friend who would go to Japanese school on weekends; sure she hated it, but in the end she retained her Japanese-ness.

Fees are high in these schools so the school could offer the best education for the students. But well, this thread can be very subjective. I wont say Brent school offers the best education just coz I feel like it,but because I have no quantitative data at hand to prove that. But in fairness to many of those who attend these schools, they do make it to good universities here and abroad, theyre well rounded in terms of sports and academics, and they are not just some dumb rich kids... ( which a lot of people here are trying to point out)

I havent heard of an international school in Europe either.hehe. Foreign people in europe arent given that much "pampering" they get in the Philippines. There usually are no special places for foreigners where they can study.They have to fend for themselves.

From what I have observed, In europe, the elite send their kids to some private boarding school often set in the countryside.
In the Philippines the elite and foreign nationals often send their kids to IS, or Brent.

Well, it can get very subjective.

[kunoL8]

Exactly! I went to both an international school and a non-international private school in the Philippines and basing from experience, I can say that an international school provides a more varied choice of classes hence the higher tuition. I think it's also because of the materials they use for their classes. since their curriculum usually follows a foreign curriculum, they usually find themselves sourcing learning materials from abroad. Of course, i'm not saying that these schools provide the best education just because they use another country's curriculum. I'm just saying that they tend to be expensive just because it is definitely more expensive to source the materials they need for the curriculum that they're following. About the issue that these schools are elitist, sure they do tend to be a bit elitist but they aren't elitist by choice.

[OilMover]

Originally Posted by gen1

he, he. I don't think the belgians will send their kids to an international (american) school in their own country. europeans look down on americans

I still think the International School Manila is the best school if one wants to send his kid to an american university as much as the british school manila is the best school for a kid who wants to go to oxford.

They will definitely get great help from the highly paid teachers (the locally hired teachers at ISM earn as much ayala corp VPs)

Discpline in ISM is as lax as could be expected in, say, a US high school. lots of smooching going on in the corridors. If discipline is desired, british school manila may be the school for you.

If they're not locking lips in the corridors, they'll be locking lips somewhere else. Seriously though, I was thinking of enrolling my son there (grade school) but I hear a lot of negatives. What is a good alternative that's close to Serendra?

[kunoL8]

Really? I've always heard good things about Britsh School Manila but personally, their take on discipline isn't for me.