Older Photos of African Cities from 1900´s - 1980´s

[Kenguy]

Kampala uganda, 1954.

image hosted on flickr

pgkivu-flickr.

[qymekkam]

why is it some places look better in the 60's and 80's ?

[Yupes]

Zambia Circa 60s


Messina Hotel




Rhokana single quarters


View to Mine club from Refinery roof

[Yupes]

RD Congo


kambove


kinshasa.


Ecole ngungu


Clinique kinoise


Clinique universitaire kinshasa


Clinique boma

[Yupes]

DR Congo , Zaire


Hopital mbuji mayi


Hopital sncz lubumbashi


Hopital bcdc kinshasa


immeuble sofide


institut batiment travauxx publics


Banque du zaire matadi


immeuble midema kinshasa

[Yupes]

All these are industries in RD Congo (Zaire)

Cimenterie cimshaba lubudi


Batiments publics


hopitaux


Centres d enseignements


Batiments a usage de bureaux et appartements


Constructions industrielles


Constructions diverses


Route kikwit batshamba bandundu


Monument heros nationaux kinshasa

[Yupes]

All these are industries in RD Congo (Zaire)


immeuble sedec kinshasa


immeuble immoshaba lubumbashi


bcdc gbadolite


hotel karavia lubumbashi


immeuble snel gbadolite


complexe hasson mbuji mayi


inss gbadolite


cciz kinshasa


banque du peuple gbadolite


immeuble comimmo I

[Yupes]

All these are industries in RD Congo (Zaire)


gecamines kolwezi stockage


goodyear kinshasa


lubilanji II kassai


route kenge kikwit bandundu


minoterie de matadi


station pompage regideso lubumbashi


station sogelec


routes et ponts


gecmines kolwezi electrolyse


gecamines kolwezi usine oxygene


cimenterie cilu lukala

[badguy2000]

wow, African cities in those old pictures looked much more advanced than Chinese cities at that time.......



but it is pitiful that African cities seem even more dirty and less developed than those african citie in old pictures.

[You are to blame]

Originally Posted by badguy2000

wow, African cities in those old pictures looked much more advanced than Chinese cities at that time.......



but it is pitiful that African cities seem even more dirty and less developed than those african citie in old pictures.

African cities were more advance than Chinese and most Asian cities up to 1980.
Africa lost a whole decade of development and regressed a lot in the 80's and early 90's

[domtoren]

Hola, VERY surprising that African cities were then everything but underdeveloped... Lourenço Marques and Nova Lisboa look here more developed than Lisboa in Portugal which I visited in 1984/85, big parts of Lisbon were old and regularly buildings had to be evacuated or tumbled down due to lack of maintenance.
A puty wars and regression destroyed all this in Africa... WHY did Africans start stupid wars instead of developing their countries, the continent does have more natural resources than we have in Europe!!!

[BUTEMBO21]

Originally Posted by domtoren

Hola, VERY surprising that African cities were then everything but underdeveloped... Lourenço Marques and Nova Lisboa look here more developed than Lisboa in Portugal which I visited in 1984/85, big parts of Lisbon were old and regularly buildings had to be evacuated or tumbled down due to lack of maintenance.
A puty wars and regression destroyed all this in Africa... WHY did Africans start stupid wars instead of developing their countries, the continent does have more natural resources than we have in Europe!!!

How do you develope a country with very few educated people? But now there are no excuses what so ever.
and your country ( Portugal) Built Angola for themselves not for Angolan people.

you expect the country to build itself after you forcefully made them slaves for 100s of years and left the country to massive illitaeretes and you helped destroy what you left.

Your conclusion is nothing but hypocrisy.

[badguy2000]

Originally Posted by BUTEMBO21

How do you develope a country with very few educated people? But now there are no excuses what so ever.
and your country ( Portugal) Built Angola for themselves not for Angolan people.

you expect the country to build itself after you forcefully made them slaves for 100s of years and left the country to massive illitaeretes and you helped destroy what you left.

Your conclusion is nothing but hypocrisy.

however, I indeed think that African should rethink twice why such a pitiful regress happened after Afican themself came into power and European left them so many modern cities and infrastructures.

one ethnic who doesn't rethink their past can not win the future.

[BUTEMBO21]

Originally Posted by badguy2000

however, I indeed think that African should rethink twice why such a pitiful regress happened after Afican themself came into power and European left them so many modern cities and infrastructures.

one ethnic who doesn't rethink their past can not win the future.

Ok they left us all that. But did you leave the expertise to mainatian them?

What do you think would happen if you left a car to someone who doesn't know how to drive and you didn't show him how to maintain it?


What do you think will happen to the car?

[badguy2000]

Originally Posted by BUTEMBO21

Ok they left us all that. But did you leave the expertise to mainatian them?

What do you think would happen if you left a car to someone who doesn't know how to drive and you didn't show him how to maintain it?


What do you think will happen to the car?

buddy,

European are not genius .

Nobody taught european how to build such modern infrastructure ,but eurpean still managed to build so many modern infrastructures and cities in africa with they hard study and work.

European didn't taught Japan and China how to build modern civilizaiton, when west countries opened the door of Japan and CHina with gunboats,but Japan and CHina still learned how to build modern civilizatin with their hard work.

why can't African learn how to maitain them with their hard study?

BTW,

how to run a country can not be "taught" by others.

[Matthias Offodile]

Badguy2000, very well said!

if you look into old news archives and see how positive news Africa got in the 60´s and 70´s (post-colonial period), you wouldn´t believe it it the same continent. But we simply screwed it and we just got ourselves to blame for it!

[mwanamwiwa]

Originally Posted by BUTEMBO21

Ok they left us all that. But did you leave the expertise to mainatian them?
What do you think would happen if you left a car to someone who doesn't know how to drive and you didn't show him how to maintain it?


What do you think will happen to the car?

Its all our fault,independence should have been delayed for a few years....some countries did but to no avail,the pressure from the Africans was to much so they were handed independence,Kenyatta delayed independence from 1960-63,sending hundreds of Kenyans to western univesities to gain expertise but the local population and some in his inner core couldnt wait any more...

[indistad]

But there are some African countries that got their independence early and still prospered like Botswana, while others like Zimbabwe got theirs late (and inheriting a pretty good industrial economy with good infrastructure) and still mess things up.

I don't want to sound racist, but I wonder if culture plays an important role in this? Africans seem to always fall to these big men dictatorship that is ruthless and very corrupt and the whole political system doesn't see the nation-state as a project, instead as an object of plunder. This happens in a lot of other third world countries, but why was it almost uniformly the case in the whole continent?

With the exception of Botswana and South Africa (we can't conclude now, Mugabe was pretty decent in the 1980s), it seems that its a recurrent pattern that is hard to break. Which countries in Africa today is a working liberal democracy?

[Matthias Offodile]

Its all our fault,independence should have been delayed for a few years....some countries did but to no avail,the pressure from the Africans was to much so they were handed independence,Kenyatta delayed independence from 1960-63,sending hundreds of Kenyans to western univesities to gain expertise but the local population and some in his inner core couldnt wait any more...

mwanamwiwa that´s what I am saying, Africa would have been better off if the countries became indpendent by 1990´s, especially after the Cold War era. it would have then been like in Macau or Hong Kong!

Anyway, let´s just keep it a picture thread and keep it free from endless political debate! it took quite a while to look for the pics

[MBA-Congo]

All of those pics are of Zaire in the 70's and early 80's, Black Africans were building their country but were not partaking in the global economy when that crashed most were ill prepared and thus started to fall apart. Commodity prices paid for most infrastructural development. It has nothing to do with culture, culture evolves to the gradual change around it. Only a fool will not read the manual that came with the car.