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Old October 29th, 2007, 09:12 AM   #101
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those arent the proposed supertalls, didnt see anything above 40 floors.


Are you sure you read the topic? There are at least 60 towers proposed over 40 floors in height, and I haven't updated that thread with new developments in the longest time. There is only one concrete supertall proposal for Mumbai - this one. There are several others, but they are still in the designing/proposal stage, with no renderings, so I haven't even bothered to make threads about them. Most of the older projects (at least one year old) we've reported from Mumbai are not only under construction, but pictures of the construction progress have been posted in the India forum, particularly in the Mumbai Cityscapes thread and in several members' personal galleries in the forum.

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Yeah, they took it down last week for some reason or another. Indian builders are incredibly web-ignorant. Or arrogant. They try to let as little information out about the buildings as they can, because of the incredible power of the NIMBYs in Mumbai. The groundbreaking 60 storey Imperial Towers had at least 10 court cases and 5 stays on construction by socialist parties and other political lobbies who have a perverse stake in keeping slum land away from development. (As a result, its over 1 1/2 years delayed and only 1/2 way done!)

It's happened many times that after we find and publicize about a developer's certain project on skyscrapercity (and then published in other websites) the developer freaks out and pulls all information about the project from their own website. (Yet construction progress documented in the India section shows that those projects are very much on)

But honestly, I think its just the developers being stupid about web presence in this case. Dynamix group has had 3 different websites on 3 different domains since we've watched them in the last couple years, each lasting a couple months before moving on, so God knows why its down again. I ain't surprised though.

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Old October 30th, 2007, 03:36 AM   #102
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Yeah, they took it down last week for some reason or another. Indian builders are incredibly web-ignorant. Or arrogant. They try to let as little information out about the buildings as they can, because of the incredible power of the NIMBYs in Mumbai. The groundbreaking 60 storey Imperial Towers had at least 10 court cases and 5 stays on construction by socialist parties and other political lobbies who have a perverse stake in keeping slum land away from development. (As a result, its over 1 1/2 years delayed and only 1/2 way done!)
And what benefit they got in keeping the land - are slum dwellers in charge or the government is?

I think the idea that they keeping this under wrap is meaningless as news about this project is all over the net - even in India. One thing remains the same, is no one knows who the contractor is, even though it's claimed that construction started and no one has any information on the cost of said construction.

Just look at developers of Imperial Towers - construction status as of Sep 07 shows the two towers almost fully built - but same story, no web presence and no one has a clue of construction cost.

Lack of marketing and online presence by developers has nothing to do with them keeping anything under wrap, but rather, them being web ignorant as you stated - which is complete BS on their behalf.
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Old November 10th, 2007, 10:15 PM   #103
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Old November 10th, 2007, 10:56 PM   #104
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The first time I saw this thing I thought it looked odd, but reviewing in more detail, it does look to be a more thoughtful design. It has really grown on me.

Question - for such a building, isn't that too little parking? Having been in Mumbai, I do know that there is limited space and the number of cars keep going up. Were the number of stalls (and I don't know what that number is exactly - other than only 2-3 floors underground) decided upon from current needs only, and not continued growth in India?

Another 'logistical planning' type question - with the hotel lobby above the actual hotel, will that not cause an absolute headache in terms of moving people throughout the building? Are there any details available of how they will deal with this? I know in Calgary, where I'm from, this type of this would never be allowed - there are strict rules on people movement.

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Old November 10th, 2007, 11:00 PM   #105
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Oh really?
MaitreyaSequeira - what do these pictures have to do with this thread? Are these other 300m+ buildings in India? If so, each project should have its own thread. Please identify total height of each on in that category.

I do know there were supposed to be a couple in Hyderabad (they had their own threads, but I've not seen updates in a long while).
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Old November 10th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #106
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its not a "Indianish" design...
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Old November 11th, 2007, 12:52 AM   #107
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Very good.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 03:13 AM   #108
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MaitreyaSequeira - what do these pictures have to do with this thread? Are these other 300m+ buildings in India? If so, each project should have its own thread. Please identify total height of each on in that category.

I do know there were supposed to be a couple in Hyderabad (they had their own threads, but I've not seen updates in a long while).
Sorry for taking the thread slightly off topic, but the person I was quoting was saying SSC India had no U/C updates, which I was denying through visual proof. Also, no, they aren't over 300m, they are between 150 and 200something metres) They should be in the highrise thread.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 10:42 AM   #109
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Oh really?

Godrej



Imperial Towers



Trinity Towers



Asok Towers



Raheja Legend & RNA Mirage



Legend



all of those were not even taken from the Mumbai projects thrad, but from a photography thread in SSC India. If I went through the projects thread I could find you hundreds more.

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OMG! They aren't even completed and do already look as shabby as the rest that surrounds these buildings!
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Old November 12th, 2007, 01:02 AM   #110
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Guess you haven't seen many under construction buildings then, eh?
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Old November 12th, 2007, 01:52 AM   #111
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OMG! They aren't even completed and do already look as shabby as the rest that surrounds these buildings!
You know, they aren't going to clad those buildings...people just live in them like that.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 12:49 AM   #112
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That is not the point. But they look like those on hold.And since I grew up in Frankfurt and lived two years in Sao PAulo, I have probably seen more u/c than you! Even though, the u/c buildings look like poor quality!
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Old November 13th, 2007, 01:00 AM   #113
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Nice and tall but the color is killing these buildings...color makes them look old...sorry.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 01:21 AM   #114
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I can't remember when I last saw a montage of shitty looking buildings like the ones I just saw in this thread.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 10:22 AM   #115
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the cladding of the last building is a little bit to flashy lets hope the others will have nice glass claddings
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A tower of different boxes, i like it!
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Old November 15th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #117
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I can't remember when I last saw a montage of shitty looking buildings like the ones I just saw in this thread.


Are you sure about that? Remove the Rockies and what do you have then?

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Nice and tall but the color is killing these buildings...color makes them look old...sorry.
Yeah, I don't know why glass isn't used much in these buildings...they are used for commercial ones but not this one, idk why.

Anyway, back to topic - point made, I am going to delete those pictures because some people aren't actually talking about the building in question...
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Old November 15th, 2007, 03:31 AM   #118
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while it might be tough to do, perhaps we should stay on track with the actual subject of this thread. There was actually no reason to post that montage of shitty buildings in the first place. (sorry, couldn't help it).

Alright - now that we've had a lengthy discussion on something that is NOT the subject of this thread, can someone take a stab at answering my questions?

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Question - for such a building, isn't that too little parking? Having been in Mumbai, I do know that there is limited space and the number of cars keep going up. Were the number of stalls (and I don't know what that number is exactly - other than only 2-3 floors underground) decided upon from current needs only, and not continued growth in India?

Another 'logistical planning' type question - with the hotel lobby above the actual hotel, will that not cause an absolute headache in terms of moving people throughout the building? Are there any details available of how they will deal with this? I know in Calgary, where I'm from, this type of this would never be allowed - there are strict rules on people movement.
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while it might be tough to do, perhaps we should stay on track with the actual subject of this thread. There was actually no reason to post that montage of shitty buildings in the first place. (sorry, couldn't help it).
So wait...we are getting back on thread...by you derailing us?

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Alright - now that we've had a lengthy discussion on something that is NOT the subject of this thread, can someone take a stab at answering my questions?
I too don't understand why there is so little parking space...perhaps they will make it deeper, we'll see. As for the lobby, I think what they mean by 'lobby' is something similar to what they have on the roofs of other hotels, mainly amenties...they may mean the lobby for that sort of thing, which is normally either on the roof of basement of other hotels?

Seeing as to how there are lobbies (plural) on the bottom, I guess its safe to assume there is a hotel lobby AND an apartment lobby on the bottom?
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Old November 15th, 2007, 06:25 AM   #120
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As for the lobby, I think what they mean by 'lobby' is something similar to what they have on the roofs of other hotels, mainly amenties...they may mean the lobby for that sort of thing, which is normally either on the roof of basement of other hotels?

Seeing as to how there are lobbies (plural) on the bottom, I guess its safe to assume there is a hotel lobby AND an apartment lobby on the bottom?
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Ah - I do see that it says 'Lobbies' at the bottom also, but for that large middle section, it does say specifically 'Hotel Lobby'. Hmmm ... something to look into for those who are in the know. They mention 'Hotel Lobby' a second time in the 'volumes' part on the right. Again, they are referring to the middle of the building. While it seems like an interesting idea, I just don't understand how the logistics of moving people will work like that.

I found this drawing somewhat odd in that it highlights stairs all the way up, but doesn't show elevators all the way up. Weird drawing in that sense.

That part that sticks out in the 'Hotel Lobby' should have a glass floor

Last comment / question - it seems like that middle section will be a somewhat wide-open space. The drawing shows that the floors don't go wall to wall. Does anyone have a rendering of what that will look like on the inside?

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