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Old December 21st, 2007, 02:17 PM   #721
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In this past month, they have dug a massive hole for Tower 4 and 3.

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Greatest building in the world, Richard Rogers' Tower 3.

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Old December 21st, 2007, 07:41 PM   #722
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Nice buildings... i like a lot...!
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Old December 21st, 2007, 10:38 PM   #723
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Wow, that 2nd render looks awesome.
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Old December 22nd, 2007, 03:20 AM   #724
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Great renders - only reality can be better.
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Old December 22nd, 2007, 04:06 AM   #725
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I love this complex but I don't like this building... I think WTC 4 or 5 (Box one). It need to be redesigned to be attractive like the rest of complex.
i second that
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Old December 28th, 2007, 04:18 AM   #726
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It's more attractive than many other skyscrapers in the world. 4WTC is no box, but it was made to be one of the least showy towers, as stated by Maki, who designed it to bring the area to life while respecting the rest of the WTC. It's design really is quite unique. We haven't seen its shape before its its angles and cuts in the corners make it distinctive. The simple facade and patterns will serve it well for its location, and I love the base too.


And now, there's only a few days until construction stars on it, and Tower 3 too. The foundations will be completed in only six months.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 08:47 AM   #727
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Volume 20, Number 33 | The Newspaper of Lower Manhattan | Dec. 28, 2007 - Jan. 3, 2008

Anger grows as Port races to meet deadline

By Julie Shapiro

As New Yorkers scramble for New Year’s Eve dinner reservations, the Port Authority is rushing to finish work in the eastern bathtub at the World Trade Center site.

With a matter of days left before the Dec. 31 deadline, the Port has kicked into high gear with 24-hour work, seven days a week. For the past several months, work had been 20 hours a day, six days a week.

“We are [going to make the deadline],” Steve Coleman, a Port Authority spokesperson, said on Dec. 26. “We’re working on it right now.” Coleman sounded less certain several days earlier, on Dec. 21, when he told Downtown Express, “We’re hopeful.”

If the Port does not turn the site for Towers 3 and 4 over to developer Silverstein Properties on time, the agency will pay a penalty of $300,000 a day. Anthony Shorris, the Port’s executive director, said last week that “our plan is to allow [Silverstein] to begin construction Jan. 2.”

Josh Rosenbloom, director of city operations for the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center, fielded questions on the deadline at last Thursday’s Community Board 1 Quality of Life Committee meeting.

“It’s going to be very close,” Rosenbloom said. “It’s not certain.”

In the midst of the construction crunch, Christmas brought a brief reprieve to the sleep-deprived residents living in buildings near the Trade Center.

“It was weird — it was absolutely silent yesterday,” Andy Jurinko, a 125 Cedar St. resident, said on Dec. 26. “You could hear a pin drop. It makes you realize how much noise there usually is.”

From his window, Jurinko, a painter, watches the construction progress.

“The hole has become quite cavernous,” he said of the preparatory work at the tower sites. “You can start to see where things are going to go.”

Not all the construction workers had time for a Christmas break.

One worker, who was hauling black garbage bags off the site just before Christmas Eve, said he’d be working until late at night.

“It’s fine, though, it’s good,” he said, smiling. “It’s a lot of monies.”

Another worker, who looked exhausted, shrugged his shoulders when asked about the long hours.

“We need to keep going,” he said. “We’re working round the clock.”

Silverstein has a contract with Yonkers Contracting Company, Inc., to build the foundations for Towers 3 and 4, which are designed by Fumihiko Maki and Richard Rogers. The work will begin 85 feet below Church St., and the towers’ superstructure will rise about six months later, according to a previous press release. A spokesperson for Silverstein Properties declined to comment.

Downtown residents have not been able to escape the full-throttle construction effort.

Pat Moore, chairperson of the Quality of Life committee and Jurinko’s wife, first noticed the 24-hour-a-day work on Dec. 18.

“It’s led me to believe they’re not going to meet their deadline,” Moore said.

Jackhammering near the site on West St. awakened board member and Gateway Plaza resident Bill Love at 3 a.m., and he looked out his window to see the site bustling with work. When he got up again at 6 a.m., they were still going.

In response to the non-stop construction, C.B. 1’s World Trade Center Committee drafted a noise resolution earlier this month. Discussion of the resolution turned contentious during the full board meeting Dec. 18, after several people pointed out that the board has to choose between building deadlines and sleep.

The noise resolution calls on the Port Authority and the State Department of Transportation to keep all construction activity between 7 a.m. and 10 p.m. and to adopt last July’s New York City Noise Code. Neither agency is required to follow community board resolutions or city regulations.

“If you want it built, you’re going to have to put up with the noise,” board member Paul Sipos said after Love introduced the resolution.

“But people have to sleep,” Love said. “State D.O.T. is behind on their schedule — it’s not our fault that they’re behind.”

Jeff Galloway, a lawyer who deals with construction delay litigation, defended Sipos.

“If we say ‘Thou shalt not work after 10 p.m.,’ then we will not have this thing built [on time],” Galloway told the board. “The reason they work at night is not because they enjoy working at night.”

Julie Menin, chairperson of the board, brought up her suggestion that Port Authority add a double day shift to the World Trade Center site, to cut back on nighttime hours.

Galloway replied that while the Port “would love a double day shift” because workers’ wages are cheaper during the day, there is a limit to how many workers and how much equipment can physically fit in the space at one time.

Moore, whose Cedar St. apartment is inundated with construction noise and vibrations from the Trade Center, could barely sit still during the exchange.

“I’m apoplectic,” Moore said when Menin called on her. “I don’t care how long it takes [to finish the construction]. We do not sleep… They work whenever they feel like it.” Her voice unsteady, Moore continued: “You can’t live, you can’t sleep, it’s just not fair.”

Barry Skolnick, a W.T.C. Committee member, defended the committee’s unanimous decision in favor of the noise resolution. “We care about quality of life,” he said. “Deadlines don’t mean everything.”

Moore added that the committee was being reasonable by asking for 7 a.m. to 10 p.m., and said even 11 p.m. would be fine — but she’s tired of hearing construction noise start as she goes to bed and continue into the predawn hours.

Galloway did not dismiss the quality of life concerns, but said the board has to realize that the resolution represents a decision that could have large implications.

“We can choose noise or time,” Galloway said. “We can’t have both.”

John Fratta, chairperson of the Seaport/Civic Center Committee, said “We have to have a balance between people who want to build buildings and people who need sleep,” drawing widespread applause from the board.

Despite the back-and-forth arguments, the board came together and voted unanimously in favor of the noise resolution.

Paul Hovitz, outgoing chairperson of the Youth and Education Committee, got in the last word.

“We need to support live residents as opposed to deadlines,” he quipped.

With reporting by Josh Rogers
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Old December 28th, 2007, 08:52 AM   #728
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umm did they expect 1 truck and 1 crane building everything
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Old December 28th, 2007, 01:36 PM   #729
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Well, I guess noise is the sounf of progress.
Too bad those guys have to work in holiday time.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 11:00 PM   #730
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Don't these people get used to the noise? I used to live by a firehouse, I stopped waking up to the sirens after a couple of weeks...
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Old December 28th, 2007, 11:37 PM   #731
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Don't these people get used to the noise? I used to live by a firehouse, I stopped waking up to the sirens after a couple of weeks...
cant they just wear ear plugs? or at least put up heavier curtains. I hate when people think the world revolves around them.
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Old December 29th, 2007, 01:03 AM   #732
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cant they just wear ear plugs? or at least put up heavier curtains. I hate when people think the world revolves around them.
Oh man, i'll second that.
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Old December 29th, 2007, 04:37 AM   #733
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People don't want any inconvienience in the lives. Why should they change when the whole world can change to accomodate them!

Good to see progress at the site. By this time next year they might actually be showing up on the city skyline.
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Old December 29th, 2007, 07:56 AM   #734
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Im not opposed to them working at night, but im opposed to them doing load stuff at night like jack hammers.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 10:15 AM   #735
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The massive hole for Tower 3 and 4 is now even more well defined than it looked last week. Like they said, you really can see where stuff will go. They are working 24/7 so construction can start in a few days.
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Im not opposed to them working at night, but im opposed to them doing load stuff at night like jack hammers.
If feasible, I'd agree. But I'm not sure this is a show-stopper.
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World Trade Center owner to pay millions in fines for missed deadlines

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Monday, December 31st 2007, 5:14 PM


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Heavy equipment operates in the pit at Ground Zero during construction of Freedom Tower, as seen from the 32nd floor of the Millenium Hilton hotel.



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World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein


The owner of the World Trade Center site said Monday it is at least a month behind on a deadline to turn over part of the site to a private developer and will pay at least $9 million in fines.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey had a Tuesday deadline to excavate foundations for two of five planned office towers at the site and turn the land over to private developer Larry Silverstein, or pay Silverstein $300,000 for every day it was late.

The deadline - and penalties - were worked out last year in a contentious renegotiation of Silverstein's lease that officials said would help speed up long-stalled development at the 16-acre site.

The agency's executive director, Anthony Shorris, said Monday that contractors worked 20-hour-a-day schedules for months and removed 300,000 tons of material so far, but could not finish by the deadline.

"They were ambitious goals. We did our best to meet them," Shorris said. "This is an enormous project. ... I wished we'd be right on schedule."

The agency said it would finish the foundation for one of the planned office towers in two weeks, and the foundation for the next tower two to four weeks later, meaning it will pay Silverstein $9 million to $13.5 million in fines.

Shorris said the job's contractor will not receive a $10 million bonus it was to get if it finished the project on time.

Silverstein spokesman Dara McQuillan said Monday that Silverstein is confident the site will be turned over to him "in the very near future" and said they are prepared to begin building the two towers as soon as the land is made available.

Construction deadlines at the World Trade Center site have changed several times, most notably with the iconic, 1,776-foot Freedom Tower. Once scheduled to open in 2009, its opening was pushed back three years after the tower was redesigned to address security concerns. The Port Authority recently adjusted its timetable for finishing the Sept. 11 memorial it is also building on the site, saying the entire complex, with an underground museum, wouldn't be finished until the 10th anniversary of the 2001 terrorist attacks.
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Old January 1st, 2008, 01:52 AM   #738
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Then we're still about two weeks away from groundbreaking of another supertall, instead of a few days away. Oh wow, big deal. As expected from the construction of the largest office complex ever.


"Silverstein spokesman Dara McQuillan said Monday that Silverstein is confident the site will be turned over to him "in the very near future" and said they are prepared to begin building the two towers as soon as the land is made available."
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Old January 1st, 2008, 03:48 AM   #739
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Wow...I knew they would be at least a week late, but this hurts. It's easy for Ebola to say "no big deal"...he's the biggest optimist I've ever known . But with this big of a delay taxpayers will probably end up bailing them out Too bad they didn't have the competence to agree to a deadline they could keep.


Edit: Nevermind...read it closer and the contractor is going to eat the fines. Bummer for them.

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Old January 2nd, 2008, 11:36 PM   #740
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This is no opinion; it's fact, stated by Silverstein Props and PA officials:

Construction on the WTC Towers will STILL start in January.

There's a 110% chance that at least one tower will start up in one to three weeks. Do you really think that the PA is going to allow those fines to build up? Do you really think that Larry wants to be scolded by the government for not completing the supertalls on time? On Larry's part, this all is so well planned out, that he was most likely ready for a small delay due to the PA. This is not some BS project; everyone is focused on it.

If anything, the one and only problem at the WTC is 130 Liberty, and it should be gone in a few months.

I wish someone paid me $300,000.00 a day for being late with something.


I can't wait for the first utter imbecile to play the "no/slow progress" card:




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