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Old October 2nd, 2008, 03:16 PM   #1341
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That scratch on the rock from the Glacier proves once and for all there is global warming.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 07:27 PM   #1342
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that steel is for memorial ( part of a pool)
#2: I dont think they will install any tower cranes on memorial site
No, I'm talking about a small steel platform over at the corner of Church and Fulton nowhere near the Memorial.

I've read they will install tower cranes for the Memorial but not until December......we'll just have to see though.

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That scratch on the rock from the Glacier proves once and for all there is global warming.
You just now figured how the ice melted at the end of the last glaciation and beginning of our current interglacial period?
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 07:58 PM   #1343
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No, I'm talking about a small steel platform over at the corner of Church and Fulton nowhere near the Memorial.

I've read they will install tower cranes for the Memorial but not until December......we'll just have to see though.



You just now figured how the ice melted at the end of the last glaciation and beginning of our current interglacial period?
I still don't know what are you talking about, provide SS if you can

p.s: I cant see it with earth cam
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:51 PM   #1344
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I still don't know what are you talking about, provide SS if you can

p.s: I cant see it with earth cam
Okay I've circled it.

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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:14 PM   #1345
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That really doesn't look like steel work for a tower crane. I'm not sure what it is but that area certainly isn't ready for a crane and there is no foundation in place yet that could support one. It'll be interesting to see what ends up being.

As far as a tower crane for the memorial goes, I'm surprised one will be required. The building is very tall nor of heavy construction as shown by the steel that is already in place. Where did you see the information that one would be installed in December?
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:53 PM   #1346
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That really doesn't look like steel work for a tower crane. I'm not sure what it is but that area certainly isn't ready for a crane and there is no foundation in place yet that could support one. It'll be interesting to see what ends up being.
I'm talking about a platform for a crawler crane not a tower crane.

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As far as a tower crane for the memorial goes, I'm surprised one will be required. The building is very tall nor of heavy construction as shown by the steel that is already in place. Where did you see the information that one would be installed in December?
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpo...postcount=1909
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 12:54 AM   #1347
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Ladies & Gentlemen, Your New and Improved WTC Timetable! (Results Not Guaranteed.)
Thursday, October 2, 2008, by Joey

http://curbed.com/archives/2008/10/0...nteed.php#more



The Port Authority issued its long-awaited report setting a new road map for the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site, the ass-kicking, name-taking final say on when our city's great shame will be replaced by memorials, museums, trains and gleaming glass towers filled with worker bees of uncertain employment. Now, the issued press release just deals with the parts of the plan the Port Authority is in charge of (Freedom Tower, Santiago Calatrava's PATH station, the extension of Greenwich Street, etc.), but it is believed that developer Larry Silverstein will deliver Towers 3 and 4 in 2012, and Tower 2 (the diamondy one) a year later. On to the details!

September 11, 2011: As previously reported, the aim is to have the September 11 Memorial open for the tenth anniversary of the attacks. According to the PA, "To make this commitment, the Port Authority developed a construction solution that allows the roof of the World Trade Center Transportation Hub’s mezzanine to be built first instead of last as had been originally programmed. That roof will serve as the floor of the Memorial Plaza and allow the project to be accelerated."

2012: The Vehicle Security Center, the underground access point for the commercial development on the site and one of the tricky projects that has been holding everything back, will be completed between the first and third quarters of 2012.

2012: The new Greenwich Street, "the front door to Towers 2, 3 and 4, and a key access point to the Memorial" will be completed between the second and fourth quarters of 2012. Hey, that's ahead of schedule!

2013: The underground September 11 Museum will be completed between the first and second quarters of 2013.

2013: One World Trade Center, aka the Freedom Tower, is scheduled for completion between the second and fourth quarters of 2013.

2013-2014: Oh, Santiago. The World Trade Center Transportation Hub will be completed between the fourth quarter of 2013 and the second quarter of 2014 (we'll go ahead and assume 2014), at a cost of $3.2 billion. By the way, that's more expensive than the Freedom Tower, which will cost $3.1 billion.

And there you have it. One thing that seems to be forgotten is the Frank Gehry-designed Performing Arts building, the white block between the Freedom Tower and Tower 2 in the model shot above. Did they just kill the thing, or is that crazy GehryTheaterTrain idea across the street still in play? Oh, and then there's the Fulton Transit Hub, and whatever's going up when the Deutsche Bank Building comes down, and—oh, forget it. Port Authority, it's your moment, baby!
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 01:30 AM   #1348
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2014...wow...more delays...im gonna be on social security by the time this is done...if social security is still around in 90 years...
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 01:38 AM   #1349
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very funny, no wait no it wasn't. To bad you almost had it. Next time don't try so hard lol.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 01:58 AM   #1350
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very funny, no wait no it wasn't. To bad you almost had it. Next time don't try so hard lol.
thanks so much, i really love when someone takes the time to say something like that
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 05:29 AM   #1351
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WTC Tower 4 Construction Update:
http://wtc.com/media/videos/Tower%20...%20Fall%202008
Superstructure work on Tower 4 starts in December.

It seems like the transportation system will be costing more than any of the towers and will be taking longer than anything else; it just goes to show how complex the below grade stuff is. It doesn't really matter, though. Larry already has control of T3 and T4, and T2 within a few days if not already, and T1 is already ahead of everything else.

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Old October 4th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #1352
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Here's a pic from Flickr taken yesterday. It shows the WTC2 site and that steel structure that I was talking about.

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Here's the Tower 3 and 4 site.

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From http://flickr.com/photos/army_arch/page2/
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Old October 4th, 2008, 10:35 AM   #1353
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Nice found Basincreek! The steel structure you were talking about indeed looks like a crane platform.
On the hi-res version of the second picture you can clearly see the foundations of tower 4 taking shape. I would say that about 30-40% of its foundation is complete
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Old October 4th, 2008, 10:52 AM   #1354
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third done?

well thats good news, wish I could tell how much foundation is done.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 11:49 AM   #1355
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It's not that difficult, you compare the drawings with what is actually build on the site
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Old October 4th, 2008, 12:05 PM   #1356
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the foundation of Tower 4 is progressing great
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Old October 4th, 2008, 12:52 PM   #1357
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Old October 4th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #1358
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What is there in the gap between the WTC 3 and 4?, there are some trees but are there gonna be any other nice looking things in that alleyway like that white whale skeleton looking structure between WTC2 and 3.

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that's the WTC Transportation Hub
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