NZ | 2018/2022 Winter Olympic's Bid | Proposed

[coozer]

Yeah word!!

[coozer]

NZ DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WINTER SPORTS, THOSE OLD SCHOOLERS ARE TOO CONSUMED BY BORING RUGBY TO RECOGNIZE OTHER GREAT SPORTS IN NZ. SHAME ON YOU OLD SCHOOLERS. MOVE ON!!!

[coozer]

With the new planned 250 million Porters expansion, which gets underway end of this year, its gonna bring NZ ski fields to more of a world class standard. Also, theres five other awesome club fields down the road from Porters.. thres Broken River, Craigieburn, Mt Olympis, Cheeseman and in Arthurs Pass there's Temple Basin.

http://www.skiporters.co.nz/mountain/project

I reckon Springfield Canterbury, being the closest town to Porters, will have a massive transformation. I heard investors are already snapping up land there... I saw some land advertised for only $75000!

I don't think well have enough snow consistence to host winter Olympics, especially the cross country which is a lower altitude. It just wont happen.

Sianara Auckland.. Kia Ora Springfield

.... DUH!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2907...onuts-done-for

[plph56]

I think that it would be great to see New Zealand holding the Winter Games, although the northern hemisphere want like the time difference for their viewing audiences.

[etf]

There is a report by the IOC Candidature Acceptance Working Group to the IOC Executive Board which gives the requirements for the 2014 Winter Olympic Games.

http://www.turin2006.com/Documents/R...eport_1073.pdf


The subjects covered include:

1. Government support, legal issues and public opinion
(including compliance with the Olympic Charter and the
World Anti-Doping Code*)
2. General infrastructure
3. Sports venues
4. Olympic Village(s)
5. Environmental conditions and impact
6. Accommodation
7. Transport concept
8. Safety and security
9. Experience from past sports events
10. Finance
11. Overall project and legacy

A read of this would give us a good idea of what is required for New Zealand.

[KaneD]

That is a very interesting article. Going by this, I would still think that it would be possible to host a South Island Winter Olympics, but I agree that it will be a hard ask:

My analysis of the document suggests to me that:
1) Queenstown could not do it alone
There isn't the transport links into queenstown to make it possible. There is no rail, the roads are limited and the main transport connection link from Christchurch is too far and slow. The airport at ZQN isn't big enough and would not really be feasible or possible to make big enough. There is probably not the justification in building all the required indoor venues etc either.

2) Christchurch doing it alone would be fine from a transport perspective with the govt's 10 year RoNS road building programme and the airport upgrade. Accomodation and indoor venues are not likely to be an issue either but outdoor venues are a problem due to the lack of mountains. The closest mountain area is Mt Hutt/Porters etc which I don't think would be capable as the supporting infrastructure isn't there such as roads and accomodation and limited ability to build and enhance sports venues.

3) Christchurch-Queenstown joint hosts is challenging
The ideal option is Chch be the host city as above and have queenstown as the host of all the outdoor sports. Queenstown is the ideal location for a winter sports carnival and has plenty of accomodation and other facilities that could be built or enhanced for winter olympic requirements. The real problem is that transport to and from Queenstown and Chch is just too far by road, no rail and the airport has limtied capacity and very prone to being closed with bad weather etc.

So I think that yes, it could be done but it would be a very hard job to pull it off. If Queenstown was say only an hour or two from Chch (by a good road) then that would be a different story as I'd think that we would definitely be in with a chance.

[KiwiRob]

Originally Posted by coozer

I don't think well have enough snow consistence to host winter Olympics, especially the cross country which is a lower altitude. It just wont happen.

There isn't much snow in Lilliehamer this year compared to previous years, Sochi doesn't get a lot of snow, this year they have had almost none, it doesn't look good for 2014.

[yousername]

And Vancouver had its warmer winter in ages but still survived

[Snorky33]

Queenstown/Wanaka has more consistant snow than what Sochi will ever have, Wanaka has a very reliable and high standard Nordic venue in Snow Farm which natually over time with all of the NZ Winter Games venues will be improved of. Remember a Winter Olympics bid coming from NZ's southern lakes region is at least another 25 years away, all the basic infrastructure needs developing e.g. road networks, redevelopment of QIAP, links between ChCh-Queenstown-Wanaka, and last but not least the venues. Be patience New Zealand if Canada, Russia, South Korea and Germany can, then you can too...remember all goods things come to those who wait...LET TIME PASS.

[Richard7666]

Regarding Queenstown airport Kane, I believe they've updated the landing system. I recall reading last year that Invercargill would go from getting 50 diverts a year to only a handful, and anecdotal observations support this, so it seems that airport closure is no longer much of an issue in Qtown.

[KaneD]

Originally Posted by Richard7666

Regarding Queenstown airport Kane, I believe they've updated the landing system. I recall reading last year that Invercargill would go from getting 50 diverts a year to only a handful, and anecdotal observations support this, so it seems that airport closure is no longer much of an issue in Qtown.

Yes you're quite right Richard7666 - though for it to work, the aircraft must have some additional equipment fitted. From memory, the only ones who have done this are Air NZ. Jetstar and PacificBlue, despite having newer planes don't

Also, I'm not sure if this landing system allows night time flights or not - I thought it was only daytime - Not sure... In any case, the thought of flying around in a plane in the dark of night while being surrounded by mountains that you can't see doesn't sound particularly appealing anyway - Jet slams into mountain range after navigation system fails, everyone on board killed... yah-de-dah.... has a certain ring about it really.

[Snorky33]

Dear Kane stop with those morbid thoughts you'll scare off those Aussie tourists...come the ski season Queenstown + + Aussies=$$$

[Richard7666]

Originally Posted by KaneD

Yes you're quite right Richard7666 - though for it to work, the aircraft must have some additional equipment fitted. From memory, the only ones who have done this are Air NZ. Jetstar and PacificBlue, despite having newer planes don't

Also, I'm not sure if this landing system allows night time flights or not - I thought it was only daytime - Not sure... In any case, the thought of flying around in a plane in the dark of night while being surrounded by mountains that you can't see doesn't sound particularly appealing anyway - Jet slams into mountain range after navigation system fails, everyone on board killed... yah-de-dah.... has a certain ring about it really.

The issue regarding night flights is that the airport is in a residential area (Frankton), the Southland Times opinion section was full of NIMBY arguments on this when it was mooted. I can't forsee the council allowing it tbh.

[buildemhigh]

Originally Posted by Richard7666

The issue regarding night flights is that the airport is in a residential area (Frankton), the Southland Times opinion section was full of NIMBY arguments on this when it was mooted. I can't forsee the council allowing it tbh.

Have to say I agree with the Nimbys on this one..

[Richard7666]

Tbh so do I

[KiwiRob]

Originally Posted by Snorky33

Remember a Winter Olympics bid coming from NZ's southern lakes region is at least another 25 years away, all the basic infrastructure needs developing e.g. road networks, redevelopment of QIAP, links between ChCh-Queenstown-Wanaka, and last but not least the venues.

If Lilliehamar was good enough to host a Winter Games then Queenstown is a shoe in. NZ's basic infrastructure is ahead of Norways, we have a much better highway network, Queenstown has far more hotels than Lilliehamar, it's closer to airports (there isn't one in Lilliehamar, Gardermoen is 3.5 hours drive) in Lilliehamar all the major venues had to be built before the games, Lilliehamar didn't have ski jumps, luge track, downhill runs, speedskating venue, everything was built for the games.

[Snorky33]

Yes absolutely agree, it's not if but when there is a Queenstown Winter Olympics...sure still about 15-25 years away yet but so what.

[Richard7666]

Tauranga should hold it, Queenstown's small and there's nothing to do.

[Snorky33]

Originally Posted by Richard7666

Tauranga should hold it, Queenstown's small and there's nothing to do.

Yeah Mt Maunganui can stage all the alpine skiing events.

[Ironmanfood]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

If Lilliehamar was good enough to host a Winter Games then Queenstown is a shoe in. NZ's basic infrastructure is ahead of Norways, we have a much better highway network, Queenstown has far more hotels than Lilliehamar, it's closer to airports (there isn't one in Lilliehamar, Gardermoen is 3.5 hours drive) in Lilliehamar all the major venues had to be built before the games, Lilliehamar didn't have ski jumps, luge track, downhill runs, speedskating venue, everything was built for the games.

C'mon, you are taking the piss.

"NZ's basic infrastructure is ahead of Norways" ???
"we have a much better highway network" ??
"Gardermoen is 3.5 hours drive" 3.5 hours to drive 145km?