Official Height Zoning Map (Height limits)

[pantherpaddler]

The purpose of that green trapezoid downtown seems to give more precise, interpolated heights, but does anyone know why the max. is all 949' instead of higher (if the diagonal 1000' and 1100' lines on the east side were extended.)

Another thought, instead of in Biscayne Bay, why not have a massive building on the Port of Miami property? Ok, it doesn't really promote street-level urban development and is a bit too far to be integrated with downtown. But it would surely look like a monument or icon tower alone by itself in the middle of the bay, with great views from all around. They could call it the Miami Lighthouse, and it could have an obnoxious circulating neon light on top, as a symbol how Miami welcomes all. haha, maybe not

[BornInTheGrove]

believe it or not... I've thought of that idea myself

[spellbound]

Originally Posted by pantherpaddler

Another thought, instead of in Biscayne Bay, why not have a massive building on the Port of Miami property? Ok, it doesn't really promote street-level urban development and is a bit too far to be integrated with downtown. But it would surely look like a monument or icon tower alone by itself in the middle of the bay, with great views from all around. They could call it the Miami Lighthouse, and it could have an obnoxious circulating neon light on top, as a symbol how Miami welcomes all. haha, maybe not

Hmmm...maybe a 1200-foot Julia Tuttle with laser beams emanating from her eyes (on a revolving head, of course). I could live with that.

Actually, you guys remember the long-ago proposal to build a Christopher Columbus statue in the bay? The damn thing was supposed to straddle Miami Beach and Fisher Island if I remember correctly...with boaters and cruise ships passing through his legs (insert obvious joke here).

The entire thing was nonsense, obviously, but I actually WANTED to see the stupid thing built. It would have been so damn ridiculous that it would have made the leap to greatness.

[FTL Beach Bum]

Here's a pretty relevant pic that I just came across, taken in April:




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Certainly puts the height limits into perspective.

[spellbound]

Originally Posted by FTL Beach Bum

Certainly puts the height limits into perspective.

Yes it does. Cool pic, though.

[Andyxox]

I was thinking, what if they built a tower here...



the obvious white areas being the parts to build, the line being a road/pathway to the tower, and the circle being the tower base/tower itself.

I've always though of an observation tower, I made a concept:

(This, of course, would not be its final colors, this is just a model. Also, probably not to scale, but you get the general idea.)

Basically there would be a road and a path leading to the tower, the path would go uphill and then be over the road. The path would lead directly to a lobby, the road would lead to the lower levels, which would be a parking garage.

At the top of this tower there would be an inner sphere, then an outer sphere made of glass and framework. In the outer sphere, there would be two levels, the lower level a restaurant, the upper level a waiting area for an IMAX theater, which would be in the inner sphere.

At night, lights on the inside of the outer sphere would light up the outside of the inner sphere, and a beam of light would shoot up towards the sky from the tip of the spire at the top. The framework on the midsection of the tower would also light up at night, different colors, possibly changing every few seconds.

[Sunstorm]

You're very creative You might, however, have some people here disagree with you wheter an observation tower should go up in Miami.

[dave8721]

On May 15th a new height ordinance made its way to the "Governmental Operations and Environment Committee" of the MD Commission.

On page 15 of the document below you'll find this tidbit:
HSA or High structure set-aside district. A "high structure set-aside district" is established which identifies an area where tall buildings and other structures may be permitted with limited impact on the capacity and operation of Miami International Airport....This district shall be known as the 1010-foot AMSL boundary district. It shall have a maximum allowable height of 1010 feet AMSL."

It then goes on to list a bunch of latitude-longitude points. Anyone want to plot those out and see exactly where they lie? I plotted one (approximately) and it is in the middle of downtown Miami.

Here is the ordinace:
http://www.miamidade.gov/govaction/l...007/070870.pdf

[dave8721]

By the way it says the new ordinance passed 11-0.

[FTL Beach Bum]

Originally Posted by dave8721

Anyone want to plot those out and see exactly where they lie?

If I remember, I'll do it tonight.

[Andyxox]

I tried to plot them out on Google Maps, here's the result:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...2e43fcd6e2ade3

[arch photographer]

MMMMmmmmmmm. How about a 1010 footer on Brickell Key!

[thetallerthebetter]

I plotted them too and I concur with arch ... it stays east of N miami ave and south of 6 st southward enough to barely include 4 seasons and also out in the bay enough to encompass all of brickell key. It's a much larger area than I had imagined or hoped for but on the down side most of this area is already built out. Looking far into the future miami's tallest will probably be on the east side of north miami ave

[Paul305]

I think 400 Brickell is the best spot for a supertall.

[BornInTheGrove]

and with this ladies and gentlemen... i officially hope that met 3 never gets built.... i want something TALLER. And no more damn condos

[Andyxox]

Originally Posted by BornInTheGrove

and with this ladies and gentlemen... i officially hope that met 3 never gets built.... i want something TALLER. And no more damn condos

How about a taller met 3?

[FTL Beach Bum]

Yep, spot-on:




By the way, I think there's one thing that needs to be addressed, which seems everyone has lost sight of... The simple, yet all-important notion that this limitation is based on height above mean sea level (AMSL), not above ground level. Which means, for instance, if the elevation of the building at ground level is already 11 feet above mean sea level, then the building itself can only be 999 feet tall to remain within the 1,010-foot AMSL limitation!

I'm not sure how much of a factor this is within the above-outlined area, but I have to assume the ground-level elevations in that area bring it pretty damn close to disallowing even an *exact* 1,000-foot building...There's only a ≤ 10-foot margin in ground-level elevation to work with, in order to still allow a supertall. And considering the usual tidewaters are never lapping over onto Brickell Ave, I have to believe the surrounding area is up at least 7-10 feet above mean sea level by default.

Would be great if someone could post an elevations map of the vicinity. That'll let us know what we're really dealing with...

[ChuckScraperMiami#1]

Originally Posted by BornInTheGrove

and with this ladies and gentlemen... i officially hope that met 3 never gets built.... i want something TALLER. And no more damn condos

Born in the Grove ,
my friend, ITS too late,
My special sales lady at the MET 3 sales trailer has told me ,
they are over the 50 % sold on MET 3,
and It will be built AS IS !!! at over 820 feet, all 75 floors,
ALL Condos , a Whole Foods Market at the ground floor, and Completed by the end of 2011,
residents are going to start moving in by the Spring of 2012 !!!

I say it Again,

GO CRANES !!!

[FTL Beach Bum]

Originally Posted by FTL Beach Bum

Would be great if someone could post an elevations map of the vicinity. That'll let us know what we're really dealing with...

Alright, I took the liberty myself. Here's the best elevation map I could find, with the 1,010' limitation box outlined in blue. The thin brown lines show equal lines of elevation (in multiples of 5), and the respective values are outlined in green:





Judging from the map, it looks like a good chunk of the CBD within the box is at or above 10' MSL (), while most of Brickell stays between the 5'-10' MSL mark ( ).

Even still, it's gonna be pretty damn close.

[southfloridamiamian]

It's all great news in all since empire world towers and one bayfront plaza are in the district, but has this been officially approved by the FAA and all the necessary people? Also i was hoping the limit would be at 1,030 since atlanta's tallest is 1,023 lol