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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:18 PM   #181
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Where's the painted stripe on the left side?
It looks like the lefthand lane just sort of ends at the (shiny) crash barrier. No wonder they want them to be so shiny. You might die at night if you couldn't see it.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #182
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and what is so special here? just an usual motorway without well maintained horizontal signalization passing threw absolutely usual, almost boring landside
Yeah, it´s nothing special you patriot, you even can´t say if something is good and the motorway IS GOOD, and looks better than average IMO, but to each his own. Notice that there are no lines in the middle that show how they marked the middlestrokes. And as you said altough the landscape is boring and flat the motorway is built higher than the landscape and that i like.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:25 PM   #183
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Oh Verso, i am sorry i can´t deliver you the shiniest motorways of the world, still the Struma motorway is shiny, the rainpic does it show properly, especially when it rains the crashbarriers get cleaned and lighten up again.

http://gat3way.fcdunav.com/southeast/s07.jpg

and did you forget this pic, here you can see it better how the motorway looks like as bgrs has a good canon camera and not an bad Kodak.
What's wrong with the left, unshiny crash barrier?
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #184
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Yeah, it´s nothing special you patriot, you even can´t say if something is good and the motorway IS GOOD, and looks better than average IMO, but to each his own.
and how would you describe French A40/A41, Italian A10, A12, A7 and A26, Swiss motorways, lightened Belgian ones, Dutch A7 at Afsluitdijk or Danish and Portuguese motorways' bridges, if Struma is breathless?!?
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Notice that there are no lines in the middle that show how they marked the middlestrokes.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:35 PM   #185
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What's wrong with the left, unshiny crash barrier?
Verso, are you too dump or too patriotic, it is not unshiny this http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2...jska056ky3.jpg ******* ugly motorway is unshiny, it is just dirty at the moment and as you can see on my wikipedia photo of the very same position that the middle barriers are shiny, they get cleaned regularly, as teh whole motorway, i saw it myself and some girl told me that also, and after rain they are cleaned and lighen up again.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:38 PM   #186
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I don't think you know what motorway is, cuz that's not motorway.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:40 PM   #187
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I don't think you know what motorway is, cuz that's not motorway.
oh sorry i just saw it, but it doesn´t matter
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:42 PM   #188
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I'm sure keber is skilled enough to explain to us why that crash barrier is so 'beautiful', but not that it matters, as I never claimed it was beautiful in the first place. But anyway, when the second half is added, I'm sure it will become all horny.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:43 PM   #189
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That has to be some special Struma valley rain, that cleans supershiny barriers. In real world, rain with combination of traffic usually makes barriers even more dirty.

And also, right is shiny, left is unshiny. How the hell rain chooses, which barrier will he clean?
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:44 PM   #190
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That was supposed to be my next question.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 11:55 PM   #191
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._to_greece.jpg

Okay, is the middlebarrier unshiny or shiny on this pic? Just tell me that? I give a ******* shit how it became shiny, since the pic of bgrs was taken arround March, mine was taken on April. I dohn´t knwo with what it have something to do. On that pic it also can be seen that the emergency lames are very wide not as Chris spreads bullshit arround, maybe his car is too wide for the emergency lames but the lorry on that pic isn´t too wide, i don´t know what he has to do there

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Old July 13th, 2007, 12:11 AM   #192
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Just tell me only one sane reason, why crashbarriers should be shiny? I don't see any advantage of it.
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Old July 13th, 2007, 12:37 AM   #193
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Just tell me only one sane reason, why crashbarriers should be shiny? I don't see any advantage of it.
I can tell you the advantage, with reflective markings and shiny barriers it is a way saver ride than without these things, besides that it looks thausand times better also. But when i travelled on the Struma motorway at night everything lightened and there was no problem to see the road. Do you know how it is to drive on this Autobahn? I will take pics when i will drive on that thing at night.
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Old July 13th, 2007, 12:53 AM   #194
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Hm, reflective markings must be something new in Europe.

And I still don't see, how safer can be shiny barriers. Do they hold bigger force at crash? NO. They are only more expensive, nothing else.

And yes, of course I know Autobahn driving in the night. Very safe.
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Old July 13th, 2007, 12:57 AM   #195
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But why do we see only those 3-4 bad pictures of the Struma motorway? Give us some more photos, those are really bad!
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Old July 13th, 2007, 01:03 AM   #196
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And yes, of course I know Autobahn driving in the night. Very safe.
I think he was referring to the Struma ("this Autobahn").
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Old July 13th, 2007, 01:09 AM   #197
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But why do we see only those 3-4 bad pictures of the Struma motorway? Give us some more photos, those are really bad!
My pics aren´t bad, i posted other pics, too, i will pick them out, wait a minute, i will upload all pics i have, finding pics of that motorway is impossible.










crappy cellphone pic






the old 10 im motorway part of the E-79 national road arround Blagoevgrad, the only difference to otorway is that it hasn´t emergency lames.

Middlemarkings are still missing on these pics but they were taken on April, i heard they worked on the motorway on May, i hope they added the middlemarkings, it looks even better with them.

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Old July 13th, 2007, 02:16 AM   #198
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Hm, reflective markings must be something new in Europe.

And I still don't see, how safer can be shiny barriers. Do they hold bigger force at crash? NO. They are only more expensive, nothing else.

And yes, of course I know Autobahn driving in the night. Very safe.
Keber, all motorway markings are reflective because they have some glass inside of them and they reflect the headlights, and you want be skilled?... Also the shiny crashbarriers abviously reflect everything at night so it is brighter fo rthe driver and saver.
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Old July 13th, 2007, 02:26 AM   #199
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Good to see some more photos, but I'd prefer to see the motorway, pictures showing the road ahead, not just the barriers. And some road signage, too.

ps. I prefer grass or at least risen medians, I think it gives a "safer feeling". And one can see on the pictures that this sand spreads all around on the pavement, which is bad.
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Old July 13th, 2007, 02:41 AM   #200
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Good to see some more photos, but I'd prefer to see the motorway, pictures showing the road ahead, not just the barriers. And some road signage, too.

ps. I prefer grass or at least risen medians, I think it gives a "safer feeling". And one can see on the pictures that this sand spreads all around on the pavement, which is bad.
But ow do yu want to erase the sand, i don´t have pics of the signate, there´s a very awesome yellow big sign at the end of the motorway i think and a uber dimensional sign which says that the strets get´s partly financed by the EU at the end of the motorway near Sofia. I don´t know how the sand can be removed, i hate it also, fortunately the most of the motorway is built higher than surroundings so sand can´t get so easily on the motorway just where it passes through the mountains there is sand. I msut take a pic of the ******* awesome yellow sign at the end of the motorway.

PS. I like that there´s no grass on the motorway, with that the motorway differes from other motorways and loks more futuristic.

Edit. The pics are of very bad color and contrast because i didn´t edit them yet and the Kodak camera i have did take them with little contrast.

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