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Old February 17th, 2009, 11:45 PM   #2181
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What does the sign with a picture of a car mean? Is that a Bulgarian motorway sign?
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:04 AM   #2182
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Road reserved for motor vehicles (motorroad).
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:34 AM   #2183
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Road reserved for motor vehicles (motorroad).
Call it like you want, the road is of very high quality, itīs of higher quality than many motorways.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:47 AM   #2184
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It's nice, I just answered RoadUser.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:01 PM   #2185
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Call it like you want, the road is of very high quality, itīs of higher quality than many motorways.

You mean that this most-worshipped of roads isn't even classified as a motorway?
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:23 PM   #2186
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You mean that this most-worshipped of roads isn't even classified as a motorway?
That's correct.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:42 PM   #2187
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It is a motorway you fool, it has green direction signs and thatīs enough, two signs wont change if it is a motorway or not.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 01:33 PM   #2188
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Radi, there is enough proof now that it is just a normal dual carriageway, not a motorway. Still it looks quite good
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Old February 18th, 2009, 01:42 PM   #2189
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But I don't get it, why it's still not officially a motorway. Why couldn't you drive more than 90 km/h there? To make it more confused, it has green motorway destination signs.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 01:44 PM   #2190
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Radi, there is enough proof now that it is just a normal dual carriageway, not a motorway. Still it looks quite good
No, it is prooven that it is a motorway, even maps list it as a motorway allready. And on a normal road the signs wouldnīt be green. Donīt you ******* get that they just didnīt replace the signs because they forgot?
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Old February 18th, 2009, 02:47 PM   #2191
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Anyone heard some news about motorway and road construction in BG the last weeks ?
Two weeks already the National Road Infrastructure Agency's website is closed (www.nrif.bg ; http://rea.government.bg) and also on the news websites nothing is said about how are going the current road constructions ..... strange
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Old February 18th, 2009, 07:37 PM   #2192
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About the issue with the motorroad - I don't know why our government builds motorways (I mean for real - with all the necessary median, crashbarrier, protective fences on both sides, junctions etc.) and than puts a '90'-sign on it... The same thing happened on the road to Istanbul (near Harmanli, future A3 'Maritsa') - all direction signs are green, but the speed limit is still 90.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 07:46 PM   #2193
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About the issue with the motorroad - I don't know why our government builds motorways (I mean for real - with all the necessary median, crashbarrier, protective fences on both sides, junctions etc.) and than puts a '90'-sign on it... The same thing happened on the road to Istanbul (near Harmanli, future A3 'Maritsa') - all direction signs are green, but the speed limit is still 90.
For some idiotic reason they put a 90km/h limitation on sections of partially built motorways - for sure when these motorways are finished they'll have the normal motorway speed limit.
Even though, it makes no big difference in travel time if you'll be driving with 90 or with 130 just for some 20-30 km.
But it is still silly to make you drive with 90 on a section that is intended for speeds of 130-150 km/h
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Old February 19th, 2009, 08:07 PM   #2194
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For some idiotic reason they put a 90km/h limitation on sections of partially built motorways - for sure when these motorways are finished they'll have the normal motorway speed limit.
Even though, it makes no big difference in travel time if you'll be driving with 90 or with 130 just for some 20-30 km.
But it is still silly to make you drive with 90 on a section that is intended for speeds of 130-150 km/h
Noone follows that speedlimit in Bulgaria anyway, they dirve 180 - 200 on the sections.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 09:20 AM   #2195
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Noone follows that speedlimit in Bulgaria anyway, they dirve 180 - 200 on the sections.
isn't it risky?everytime i went to bulgaria i saw lots of police radars.they caught me on dupnitsa bypass, on 2+2+median with 81km/h on a stretch with a stupid speed limit of 50.i gave them 30euros for that.what's good in bulgaria is that other drivers signal u when there is a police radar ahead.(we also have this custom here in romania).
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They do that too in the Netherlands...
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wonderful cause in april i'm gonna visit netherlands
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Old February 20th, 2009, 10:36 AM   #2198
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Yeah, see you in Amsterdam

There are a few places I know here where the police is always checking, so everyone who drives there more often always slows down there. If there is really a police car checking, they will flash their lights.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 02:47 PM   #2199
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isn't it risky?everytime i went to bulgaria i saw lots of police radars.they caught me on dupnitsa bypass, on 2+2+median with 81km/h on a stretch with a stupid speed limit of 50.i gave them 30euros for that.what's good in bulgaria is that other drivers signal u when there is a police radar ahead.(we also have this custom here in romania).
I think the police wont stop you on the Struma motorway for driving 120, the sings indicate a speedlimit of 90, but I think the police is introduced to only stop if you are faster than 120 because it is a motorway.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 03:59 PM   #2200
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isn't it risky?everytime i went to bulgaria i saw lots of police radars.they caught me on dupnitsa bypass, on 2+2+median with 81km/h on a stretch with a stupid speed limit of 50.i gave them 30euros for that.what's good in bulgaria is that other drivers signal u when there is a police radar ahead.(we also have this custom here in romania).
Well, there are a couple of reasons why the Dupnitsa police stopped you. First, speeding. Second, the foreign plate of your car. Third, you may have been the easiest to stop.

I personally hate this 2 km stretch, because everybody accelerates unreasonably, and sometimes drivers go into the opposite lanes while overtaking. Then we're again stuck behind the trucks.

I've seen such speed limits in Greece too. Last week I went to Thessaloniki. They're building a new highway from Promahonas to Thessaloniki, some sections already in operation. Well, they have 80 limit for some 20 km just before you approach Thessaloniki. 20 km of perfect road. Ridiculous.

Cops usually stay at the end of long sections allowing speeding and after right turns where you cannot see them and when you see them, it's too late to slow and ... you have 30 euro less.
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