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Old March 4th, 2009, 03:13 PM   #2241
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Said Radi...

Traffic on Struma expressway seem to be quite low

What are the plans for Sofia ring road ?
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Old March 4th, 2009, 04:10 PM   #2242
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According to Google Earth, the Struma Expressway has road no 1. Is this also on the signs or do they only sign E-numbers?



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Old March 4th, 2009, 06:59 PM   #2243
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According to Google Earth, the Struma Expressway has road no 1. Is this also on the signs or do they only sign E-numbers?
In fact on that part of the Struma motorway there is only the E-79 sign and as seen the labels are green . Further south, after the "motorway", there still is the expressway "1" sign everywhere.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #2244
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What is the Struma Motorway? i'm confsued, is it a crappy road or is it name for a crappy road system?
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Old March 4th, 2009, 07:14 PM   #2245
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The Struma is a motorway/expressway/road from Sofia to Thessaloniki in Greece that's a bit exagerrated by Radish about it's features. It's named after the river it runs next to. Hopefully, it will be a full motorway standard-road in the next 10 years or so.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 10:50 PM   #2246
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( designed for speeds about 130km/h, 2x3 lanes: 2x2,5m +1x1,5m ... )
those measures are definitely not enough for 130 km/h
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Old March 4th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #2247
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He probably meant 2×3.5 m (at least) + 1×1.5 m.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 11:11 PM   #2248
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He probably meant 2×3.5 m (at least) + 1×1.5 m.
... sorry i don't know the exact specifications ...
So , 2x3,5m at least is the motorway standart ?
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Most motorways have lane width between 3,2 and 4,0 m. 3,2 can be found on the Dutch A2, 4,0m on German Autobahns if I'm correct. Mostly used are 3,5 and 3,75 m. Occasionally, narrower lanes, as narrow as 2,3m can be found on motorways.
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The exisitng part of Struma curently is about 20 km. long, starting from the exit of Vladaya gorge, south of Sofia and east of Pernik ....

What Chris posted is the part of E79(2x2) around Blagoevgrad and south of it(1x1)...

E79(not Struma) at Blagoevgrad:

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Old March 6th, 2009, 03:13 PM   #2251
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Most motorways have lane width between 3,2 and 4,0 m. 3,2 can be found on the Dutch A2, 4,0m on German Autobahns if I'm correct. Mostly used are 3,5 and 3,75 m. Occasionally, narrower lanes, as narrow as 2,3m can be found on motorways.
Thanks Chris !
I'm curious to discuss here a little bit about motorways specifications .....
For example, what is the standard for emergency lane width? I've seen on german autobahns emergency lanes as narrow as, for example ~1,5m, as well as emergency lanes with the same width like the other lanes ...

Wich are the minimum specifications for a road to be classed "motorway"? Minimum curve diameter? Minimum lane widths ? minimum separator width ? Profile angles ? Asphalt layer height? ... and others not mentioned ?
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Usually at least 2x2 lanes and controlled access as a minimum.
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Old March 6th, 2009, 09:38 PM   #2253
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E79(not Struma) at Blagoevgrad:
Isn't the whole road E79 between Sofia and the Greek border actually called Struma?
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Isn't the whole road E79 between Sofia and the Greek border actually called Struma?


Struma is the name of the river that winds all the way from Pernik to the BG-GR border, and in the valley of which the E79 road passes through. The project for the "Struma Motorway" which was about to replace the busy old E79 national road was started somewhen in 2000 or 2001... The previous government promised to built the whole 150 km. length for the Olympic Games in Athens 2004 ... but they managed to finish only those ~20 km. near Pernik and Sofia ... there are 4 more lots left to be built, and not only the construction but the tender parts for which have not yet been started ... The current government completely f****d up everything (not only) about the completion of Struma motorway over the last 4 years.

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Old March 12th, 2009, 06:51 PM   #2255
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Chernomore motorway

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Im a new user to the site and have been reading through some of the posts. Im just wondering if there is any movement on the cherno more motorway. The last i heard there was 10km of it built out of 103km and the final path of the road hadnt been decided. is this still the case or is it now under construction.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 07:39 PM   #2256
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There are some 10km built south of Varna, including the "Asparuhov " Bridge which is also part of this motorway, but they are operational since the 80's )))).
Recently I read an article stating that the "Cherno more" motorway is to be continued as a bypass of the Varna city and further north to the romanian border. But for now there is absolutely NO info when will this project start ....
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Old March 13th, 2009, 10:34 AM   #2257
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Taking into account how fast things happen in Bulgaria and the mountainous part of the proposed Cherno more motorway, I wonder if kick off will happen in the next 10 years.
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Old March 13th, 2009, 05:06 PM   #2258
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Much like Greece, Bulgaria is also not clear on the numbering of motorways.

A1: Sofia - Burgas, also used for the Marica from Sofia to Edirne
A2: Sofia - Varna, seems clear
A3: Chirpan - Edirne, also number A1 seen
A4: Burgas - Varna, also displayed as A5 or A3 on maps, also seen as Chirpan - Burgas route.
A5: Daskalovo - Kulata, also used for the Cherno More
A6: Sofia - Pernik, seems clear
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Old March 13th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #2259
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There are some 10km built south of Varna, including the "Asparuhov " Bridge which is also part of this motorway, but they are operational since the 80's )))).
Recently I read an article stating that the "Cherno more" motorway is to be continued as a bypass of the Varna city and further north to the romanian border. But for now there is absolutely NO info when will this project start ....
Actually a lot of research work has been done on Černo More motorway since September 2008. Last month three variants concerning the part near Varna has been proposed and now it's up to the ministry of regional development to choose one of them. Mostly likely there will be a bridge near Beloslav with two exists - for the northern and for the southern part of the town. Currently the citizens of Beloslav are using a ferry to travel from one side to another. The link with the current A2 motorway on the north will be somewhere near the exit for Slânčevo. On the south the motorway will go to the village of Priselci where it will join the stretch coming from the centre of Varna. This new motorway between exit Slânčevo and Priselci will be considered as part of the A2. After Priselci the trajectory of the the motorway has been already defined.
North of Slânčevo a new motorway will continue around Aksakovo and north of Varna to Zlatni Pjasâci and then it will turn into a 2x2 carriage way to the Romanian boarder.
According to the new plan of Varna (it has to be approved by the end of the year, currently there is a public discussion), the beginning of the city will be at the boarder between Aksakovo and Varna municipalities. This is where the roundabout of the airport is situated. The area surrounding A2 in this section is urbanised and for a few years now there are local lanes to serve the adjacent buildings. Recently, even a new junction with the street that links Kajsieva Gradina with the lake has been open.

I hope this reveals most of the things that has been done and planned for motorways in the area. Now we have to wait and see... And if you really want to see something, I'm addressing the Bulgarians in the section here, go to the urns and cast your vote this summer!
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Old March 14th, 2009, 02:16 AM   #2260
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Chris you're right that numbering of bulgarian motorways isn't very clear. It's due to the fact that there just some sections from the motorways (in most advanced stage is Trakiya with about 250-270 km built from 400 ).
From some sources i found this (almost 90% sure ) :
A1: serbian border - Sofia - Plovdiv - Chirpan - Turkey (Edirne)
From Sofia to Chirpan it's Trakiya motorway , from Chirpan to Edirne is called Marica motorway but the number remains A1
A4: this is the remaining section of the Trakiya motorway from Chirpan to Burgas
A2 is certainly the Hemus motorway linking Sofia with Varna

For the others there is nothing absolutely certain. On the sections already built there is no numbering
Although i think that Lyulin motorway and Struma would have the same number beacuse it's in fact the same road linking Sofia with the greek border ( Lyulin is from Sofia to Daskalovo and from Daskalovo to Kulata is called Struma)...

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Much like Greece, Bulgaria is also not clear on the numbering of motorways.

A1: Sofia - Burgas, also used for the Marica from Sofia to Edirne
A2: Sofia - Varna, seems clear
A3: Chirpan - Edirne, also number A1 seen
A4: Burgas - Varna, also displayed as A5 or A3 on maps, also seen as Chirpan - Burgas route.
A5: Daskalovo - Kulata, also used for the Cherno More
A6: Sofia - Pernik, seems clear
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