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Old January 13th, 2010, 10:43 PM   #2561
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Black Sea Motorway was included as the last lot of Trakya [A1] Motorway few months ago. It's construction will be granted by OP Transport, but for the following period - after 2013... The road north of Varna is with 2x2 expressway profile up until Golden Sands and a little bit further i think, and the terrain up to the BG-RO border is mostly pure plains, so it won't be difficult turning it into a motorway some time in the future. I prefer though if our governments focus more on the [E79] connection. After the bridge at Vidin-Kalafat is built in 1.5 years tme it will require some good motorways both on Bulgarian and Romanian territory. We are already taking measures as big parts of the Botevgrad-Vidin road are already(or will be soon) reconstructed as 2x2 expressways.
Actually the 2x2 road north of Varna turns into a normal road a few kilometers before Golden Sands and it can not be turned in a motorway. There is а National Park (Golden Sands National Park) in the way and the 2x2 is passing through urban area.
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Old January 14th, 2010, 08:57 AM   #2562
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Actually the 2x2 road north of Varna turns into a normal road a few kilometers before Golden Sands and it can not be turned in a motorway. There is а National Park (Golden Sands National Park) in the way and the 2x2 is passing through urban area.
So probably a motorway, if ever built, between Constanta and Varna, will take the route via Dobrich? It's also a little bit shorter this way, but much far from the seaside.
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Old January 14th, 2010, 09:10 AM   #2563
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So probably a motorway, if ever built, between Constanta and Varna, will take the route via Dobrich? It's also a little bit shorter this way, but much far from the seaside.
Panda, was it only in my beautiful dreams, or was there at some point mentioned a plan to build a parallel motorway to the current 2x2 road from Constanta to Mangalia (DN39)?
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Old January 14th, 2010, 09:15 AM   #2564
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So probably a motorway, if ever built, between Constanta and Varna, will take the route via Dobrich? It's also a little bit shorter this way, but much far from the seaside.
It doesn't have to go through Dobrich. If you travel to from Varna to Constanta you can take two roads first - through Golden Sands, national road 9 or national road 902. They merge in Obrochishte. The motorway can be built where the 902 runs fist and then by road 9.
On the other hand, as you mentioned, a motorway through Dobrich would be shorter. I read about plans to expand the current road to 2x2
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Old January 14th, 2010, 03:35 PM   #2565
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Panda, was it only in my beautiful dreams, or was there at some point mentioned a plan to build a parallel motorway to the current 2x2 road from Constanta to Mangalia (DN39)?
No, I haven't seen such a plan yet, but it will be hard to build it because of Techirghiol lake, which together with Eforie town blocks the way of the motorway.
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Old January 14th, 2010, 03:38 PM   #2566
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No, I haven't seen such a plan yet, but it will be hard to build it because of Techirghiol lake, which together with Eforie town blocks the way of the motorway.
Over the lakes!

BTW: I am sure I've heard discussions about a motorway parallel to the current DN39! Anyway, we should move this to the Romanian thread.
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 12:21 AM   #2568
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Unbelievable, Bulgaria is forced to pay back the money for Ljulin motorway if the Turkish company wont manage to finish it in time, what can Bulgaria do, if the Turks are not smart enough, to build motorways with the right speed, nothing, the European Union slowly begins to annoy me, because the requirements are just too high.
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 01:01 PM   #2569
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Unbelievable, Bulgaria is forced to pay back the money for Ljulin motorway if the Turkish company wont manage to finish it in time, what can Bulgaria do, if the Turks are not smart enough, to build motorways with the right speed, nothing, the European Union slowly begins to annoy me, because the requirements are just too high.
why is that ? wasn't the contract revised by legal experts ? could you elaborate on that ?
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 01:28 PM   #2570
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All the fuss is because big chunk of the money for Lyulin's construction come from the ISPA program of the EU. It is an pre-accession fund so Bulgaria is obliged to finish the job till the end of 2010 or otherwise the contract will be declared invalid and we will have to return all the financing back to the EU...
Works started 3 years ago ... and they have completed 40% so far... Everybody is afraid that they won't manage to finish the job for one more year.

Yesterday the turkish company "Mapa Gengiz" that won the tender few years ago presented a schedule, according to which the motorway should be fully functional until 21 December 2010:



Let's hope they won't screw up!
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 02:16 PM   #2571
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now 40% done, 3 years gone.
only 11 months to go and still 60% as a challange.

and hey, there is a winter time - no serious constructing works !

doable ?


answer: NO.

the presented project plan is just to stay alive for some guys for a couple of months more. but mid 2010 will discover the truth. and then what ?

is it fair to cheat the customers (drivers) ?
why not to admit the failure and present the real, doable project plan ? maybe then EU commisioners would be more willing to cooperate...

anyway the existing project plan was born in kindergarden. all I know is as long as the that kind of project plans would be presented in the foolish way, nobody (UE budget decission makers) would be willing to invest any money.
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 02:25 PM   #2572
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I hope that they will manage to finish the motorway til 2010.
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 02:26 PM   #2573
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now 40% done, 3 years gone.
only 11 months to go and still 60% as a challange.

and hey, there is a winter time - no serious constructing works !

doable ?


answer: NO.

the presented project plan is just to stay alive for some guys for a couple of months more. but mid 2010 will discover the truth. and then what ?

is it fair to cheat the customers (drivers) ?
why not to admit the failure and present the real, doable project plan ? maybe then EU commisioners would be more willing to cooperate...

anyway the existing project plan was born in kindergarden. all I know is as long as the that kind of project plans would be presented in the foolish way, nobody (UE budget decission makers) would be willing to invest any money.
It can be doable, in Romania Bechtel finished a 42km stretch last year which was about 45% completed at the begining of 2009. I think if there is will, it can be possible.
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Exactly, what I think aswell.
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 02:33 PM   #2575
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I think at least 1 year, from those 3 that have already passed was lost due to the part-time freezing of the EU funds, when we were hit by a corruption scandal in the Road agency in early 2008 ... The ISPA funding(including Lyulin) was opened again in May last year ...
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does the motorway need to be in compliance with all EU standards, rules and all that stuff ? if so this is a real challange.

I believe it is "quite easy" to foresee the nearest future. how many of motorway projects were done on time ? how many of them were shrinked beacuse of lack of time ?

last thing. where were those project managers for a long time ? haven't they supposed to give a project a yellow/red light a year/2 years ago ?
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 03:16 PM   #2577
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Lyulin Highway to be completed by end-2010, contractor says

http://sofiaecho.com/2010/01/21/8459...ontractor-says



Lyulin Highway, the shortest of Bulgaria's planned highways at 19km, would be completed by December 21 2010, a company official said on January 21.

The consortium of two Turkish construction companies, Mapa and Cengiz, gave the Government on January 20 its schedule for completing the highway.

"The schedule we presented is realistic and doable. We will not compromise with quality, we will increase capacity so that we complete Lyulin on time," the head of the Bulgarian subsidiary of Mapa, Rüştü Dinçer, told Dnevnik daily.

"Right now we are in talks with several Bulgarian companies to subcontract and if we have to, we can sign contracts with 10 companies."

The consortium has built seven km of highway, but only eight per cent of the bridges and has only started on the first of three tunnels.

Mapa-Cengiz has made headlines over allegations that it paid Turkish workers triple the salaries of its Bulgarian employees and was also criticised for the slow pace of work on the project, which is financed with European Union funds.

Regional Development Minister Rossen Plevneliev has rejected the plea made earlier in January by the chamber of Bulgarian road-building companies to break the contract with the consortium and award it to Bulgarian companies. Doing so would result in losing the European Union funding for the project, Plevneliev said.
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Among the big promises made by Boiko Borissov during the parliamentary elections campaign in the summer of 2009, one most certainly resonated with those holidaymakers who chose to spend their time on the southern half of Bulgaria’s Black Sea coast. Borissov’s pledge to make the country’s highways one of the focal points of his government was echoed by the Regional Development Minister in the new cabinet, Rossen Plevneliev, as soon as the government took office.

Almost six months later, there has been little construction, but the preparatory work put in during that time should ensure that the process of picking the construction companies that would build the highways is more transparent, according to Plevneliev.

By June 2012, the Cabinet wants to have completed three highways, a commitment that Plevneliev reiterated when he appeared on the Bulgarian National Television (BNT) morning show on January 19.

Some delay was caused by administrative issues, including the transfer of the National Road Infrastructure Agency back to the Regional Development Ministry and the two changes of the agency’s head.

The ministry has also had to rewrite the rules for the public tenders it calls, with the end result that the tender to pick the construction company to build the first of three remaining sections of Trakiya Highway was called in November instead of September.

The tender paperwork attracted wide interest and was bought by more than 50 companies, according to the ministry, but only eight bids were submitted before the deadline.

After the opening of the bids on January 15, which happened amid draconian security measures meant to ensure that the paperwork was not tampered with, Plevneliev said that he was optimistic that the tenders for the other two sections of Trakiya Highway would draw more offers because potential bidders would be persuaded by the transparent way the ministry has handled the first bid.

Bulgaria has split the 115km of Trakiya Highway that are yet to be built into three sections. The first tender is for the stretch between Stara Zagora and Nova Zagora, with tenders for the Nova Zagora–Yambol and Yambol–Karnobat stretches scheduled for the next month-and-a-half, Plevneliev told BNT.

The first-sod ceremony for the Stara Zagora–Nova Zagora has already been scheduled for May 3, even though the project lacks several key permits.
"Trakiya Highway is still missing the construction permit, nor is the environmental impact assessment ready, nor are the archaeological digs done. We are doing everything possible to have all those things done, we have a very complex schedule to ensure that all of this is completed by end-April and we can have the first-sod ceremony on May 3," Plevneliev said.

It was possible that because of the tight schedule, the project would not have European Union funding secured by the time construction begins. However, that would not be a big issue, according to Plevneliev, because the European Commission was being kept informed of the project’s progress.
"They know. The same thing happened with the refuse treatment plant and the Sofia metro. This is not a drama," Plevneliev told BNT.

Lyulin delays?
Lyulin Highway, at 19km the shortest of the six highways on the drawing board, is the closest to completion, with six km already finished. Turkey’s Mapa-Cengiz consortium, contracted to built the highway, was due to submit its schedule for the completion of the project to the Cabinet on January 20.

Prime Minister Boiko Borissov, who met Mapa-Cengiz executives the previous week, reiterated the Government’s demand that the highway is completed by the end of 2010.
According to Plevneliev, the consortium is now working on the bridges and the first of the highway’s three tunnels.

Trakiya Highway bidders

Dogus Insaat is the Turkish company that built the Karnobat-Bourgas stretch of Trakiya Highway, in use since 2006. The company has also won the tender to build the stretch of the Sofia Metro second line between Nadezhda borough and Patriarh Evtimii Boulevard.

Austria’s Strabag is best known in Bulgaria for the controversies surrounding the new terminal of Sofia Airport, which included delays, demands for more money and a poorly-built roof that collapsed.

Holding Putishta, owned by businessman Vassil Bozhkov, is one of Bulgaria’s biggest construction companies, which built stretches of Maritsa Highway in the past. The company bid in consortium with Austria’s Alpine.

Trace Group is another major Bulgarian construction company. It built the Orizovo-Stara Zagora stretch of Trakiya Highway and is now building the stretch of the Sofia Metro’s second line between Patriarh Evtimii and Cherni Vruh boulevards.

Bulgarski Magistrali is a consortium that includes major Bulgarian construction company Glavbolgarstroi; ISA2000 that built stretches of Strouma Highway; and Avtomagistrali Cherno More, which built the Shoumen-Varna stretch of Hemus Highway.

Terna, one of Greece’s major construction firms, bid to build Lyulin Highway, but lost. In Sofia, it built the Carrefour Mall on Tsarigradsko Chaussee Boulevard.

Aktor, another major Greek construction company, lost bids to build Lyulin Highway and Sofia Metro stretches.

Konstruktor-Trakiya is a joint venture between Croatian firm Konstructor, which has bid in Bulgarian public tenders in the past but never won, and another company controlled by Bozhkov, Plovdiv-based Putni Stroezhi.
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 03:46 PM   #2578
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Why does the northern part of the Sofia ring road run so far outside the city?

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1. There are some obsticles like lakes, villages, factories etc.
2. The future plan for growth of Sofia is in Northern direction, as from the south there is the natural border of Vitosha mountain.
3. There is already planned Northern tangent(posted it a few pages ago) that will go closer to the current city limits and will be just a city highway.

The southern part of the ring road will be used as a city highway as well and will be closed for heavy vehicles transit traffic once all of the northern part gets build in a motorway profile...
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 06:02 PM   #2580
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A photo of the opened last summer after rehabilitation part of [E70](bul. Bulgaria) bypassing Ruse, just before Danube bridge



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