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Old May 2nd, 2010, 05:28 PM   #2661
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Lyulin Motorway [A5]:






+the landfill "Suhodol" in the foreground


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Old May 2nd, 2010, 08:27 PM   #2662
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Sofia's ringroad





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Old May 2nd, 2010, 08:39 PM   #2663
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Nice picture.

What kind of homes are those? Upscale multi-family homes? (A concept that never took off in the Netherlands).
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 12:53 AM   #2664
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nice looking houses
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Old May 5th, 2010, 10:45 PM   #2665
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Since as far as I can see you are interested not only in roads, but also in houses, here it is the whole album of the Sofian elite residential areas(in the south part of the city or the so called "Vitoshka iaka" or "Collar of Vitosha"):
http://picasaweb.google.com/venkost/BankyaLozenBankya#

PS:If you wonder what is "Vitosha"-this is a small tall(2290,Cherni Vrah peak not in the pictures) mountain south from Sofia:



The small houses "climbing" the mountain are part of this "Collar". To return to the topic, the residential areas are south form the Sofian Ring Road Motorway(it's an urban motorway in construction).
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:48 PM   #2666
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I'm still puzzled by the BG motorway numbering.

For example, at Chirpan, does A1 goes towards Edirne, or to Burgas? Wikipedia says it goes to Burgas, Google says it goes to Edirne.

I think the main problem is that motorways are rarely referred to by number, but mostly by name. They also don't seem to be signed often. For example this sign is on a fairly new section of A-? near Chirpan. No number shown...

Last exit before the A1/A4 interchange, one of the few instances where an A-number is signed.
[IMG]http://i43.************/2mezwug.jpg[/IMG]
I wonder hy did they write only Svilengrad and Parvomaj in latin adn Burgas and Orizovo not?

The road to Parvomaj - the road of the devil 666 Slow down to 40 not to miss him!


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Why is my post above the post I just quoted?

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Old May 7th, 2010, 02:41 PM   #2667
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I'm still puzzled by the BG motorway numbering.

For example, at Chirpan, does A1 goes towards Edirne, or to Burgas? Wikipedia says it goes to Burgas, Google says it goes to Edirne.

I think the main problem is that motorways are rarely referred to by number, but mostly by name. They also don't seem to be signed often. For example this sign is on a fairly new section of A-? near Chirpan. No number shown...

Last exit before the A1/A4 interchange, one of the few instances where an A-number is signed.
[IMG]http://i43.************/2mezwug.jpg[/IMG]
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Old May 7th, 2010, 03:08 PM   #2668
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Considering the number of motorways, it shall not be a problem for now.
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Old May 10th, 2010, 02:00 AM   #2669
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I'm still puzzled by the BG motorway numbering.

For example, at Chirpan, does A1 goes towards Edirne, or to Burgas? Wikipedia says it goes to Burgas, Google says it goes to Edirne.

I think the main problem is that motorways are rarely referred to by number, but mostly by name. They also don't seem to be signed often. For example this sign is on a fairly new section of A-? near Chirpan. No number shown...

Last exit before the A1/A4 interchange, one of the few instances where an A-number is signed.
[IMG]http://i43.************/2mezwug.jpg[/IMG]
Well,one is for sure-A1 is called Trakia Motorway and it goes from Sofia via Plovdiv via Chirpan to Burgas.

From Chirpan to Turkish border the motorway is called Maritsa Motorway but I can't tell you whether it will be A4 or A3(I hadn't been able to find the information on the Road Agency's site either).
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Old May 11th, 2010, 09:00 PM   #2670
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I found this document from the Ministry of Transport:
http://www.optrans********/upload/doc..._ppendix_6.pdf
Dated Aug.-Dec. 2009.

It spells out the A numbers with the associated motorway names.

It says (in GoogleTranslateEnglish):
Quote:
Strategic highway network in Bulgaria is scheduled to covers six
main routes: A1 Motorway "Trakia", A2 highway Hemus ", A3 motorway "Maritza", A4 highway Black Sea ", A5 highway Liulin", A6 motorway
Struma.

...

A1 Motorway "Trakia" Old
Zagora to Karnobat
Gauge A29 - Stara Zagora
Karnobat (115 km)
Providing a continuous highway
east-west route. The detailed project
proposals for investment will be
account
with a
environmental
legislation and impacts on
environment are minimized by
recommended measures.
LOT 2 St. Zagora - Nova Zagora - without
need for EIA and OS;
LOT3 Nova Zagora - Yambol - EIA and
MA;
LOT 4 Yambol - Karnobat
EIA and OS
Stage: Positive evaluation
quality of EIA, forthcoming
public hearings
H10

A2 motorway Hemus
Ring road - until Sofia
Yana
Gauge A29 - Ring Road --
Sofia to Yana (8.5 km)
Updated EIA report.
Pending ruling on GA

A2 motorway Hemus
Yablanitsa to Shumen
Gauge A29 - Yablanitza to Shoumen (230
km)
Providing a continuous highway
east-west route in northern Bulgaria
Approved by the EIA Decision 9 --
6 / 2008 by MEW. Without
by the GA.
H12

A3 motorway Maritsa
Gauge A29 - CHirpan to Harmanli (68
km)
Ensure sufficient capacity for
Taking the large amount of heavy and
international transit traffic directed
Republic of Turkey to
Updated EIA report. Waiting on
submission.
Issued an opinion on the OS 05 --
OS/2007 on
H13

A4 motorway Cherno
Gauge A29 - Burgas to Priseltsi (95
km)
Removal of the transit traffic from
Black Sea villages and towns, which is
particularly severe problem in the summer
months, and when the peak of the tourist
season
EIA prepared. Proposed new
options for construction. Waiting on OS
for them.
H14

A6 highway Struma
Gauge A29 - Lower Dikanya to Tower
(138 km)
Highway route to take
heavy traffic between Bulgaria and Greece.
The trail follows River Gorge, which
currently it is difficult to move with
high speed, with a large amount of accident.
І-1/2008 approved EIA. Positive
opinion on the OS.
For fun, the document then shows a map on page 4 showing a different set of A numbers, with A1 connecting Sofia to Turkey, etc. My guess is that the numbers were recently changed, the old numbers are shown on this map, and the new numbers are quoted above. But it'd be nice to know for sure.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #2671
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Every official documentation of the ministry of the regional development for the construction of Trakia motorway between Stara Zagora and Karnobat shows that this section is A4. So I think this is the actual numbering for Chirpan-Burgas motorway. It is also interesting that in the same documentation kilometre counting starts not from Chirpan but from Sofia. So there is a quite big misunderstanding.
I hope that the motorway numbering as well as all the projected motorways that should be build must be cleared soon.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 05:26 AM   #2672
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Were those documents prepared more recently than the document I found (Aug. 2009)? That could shed some light on which numbering system is newer, short of seeing the signing plans for the parts of the Trakia motorway that are under construction.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 08:38 PM   #2673
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Liulin motorway photos from yesterday thanks to Floatingshift :
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Ами правя каквото мога. Има напредък от последната ми разходка - очевидно вече се работи по-организирано и активно. Разбира се има още доста да се желае - според мен трябва да ускорят темповете и да моблизират още доста техника.

Пътен възел на Околовръстното шосе:



Асфалтираната отсечка в полето до Мало Бучино.









Първият тунел.



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Продължение:







Виадуктът след тунела:







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Мястото на бъдещия втори тунел след този виадукт (тук не съм сигурен дали наистина ще има тунел, но предполагам, защото скалните откоси над пътя са твърде стръмни и високи).





Следващият виадукт, който се строи вече трета година. Веднага след него според мен пак ще има тунел, защото отляво на трасето има висок и не особено здрав скат:







И накрая - строителството на тунела на границата между Софийска и Пернишка област. В момента бързат да направят усилената средна част на тунела, върху която ще изместят стария път.



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Old May 13th, 2010, 09:06 PM   #2674
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Fantastic pictures, Stelian & FloatingShift!
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Old May 14th, 2010, 01:37 AM   #2675
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On a side note; Lyulin will be among the highest motorways in Europe. It will reach approximately 900 meters altitude. For example the Gotthard Autobahn is 1050 m, so not much higher. Only the A75 in France and several Autovías in Spain reach greater altitudes (up to 1500 m).
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Old May 14th, 2010, 02:28 AM   #2676
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On a side note; Lyulin will be among the highest motorways in Europe. It will reach approximately 900 meters altitude. For example the Gotthard Autobahn is 1050 m, so not much higher. Only the A75 in France and several Autovías in Spain reach greater altitudes (up to 1500 m).
The Struma motorway reaches 930 m altitute at the highest point, and it is a motorway. It has green signs and there are a lot of motorways in europe with such or even sharper curves. So the Struma motorway must also be in your list.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 11:11 AM   #2677
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Fantastic pictures, Stelian & FloatingShift!
I also think they are fantastic, all the credit should go to FloatingShift I just copy/pasted them

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On a side note; Lyulin will be among the highest motorways in Europe. It will reach approximately 900 meters altitude. For example the Gotthard Autobahn is 1050 m, so not much higher. Only the A75 in France and several Autovías in Spain reach greater altitudes (up to 1500 m).
I didn't know that.very interesting thanks
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Old May 14th, 2010, 11:35 AM   #2678
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The Struma motorway reaches 930 m altitute at the highest point, and it is a motorway. It has green signs and there are a lot of motorways in europe with such or even sharper curves. So the Struma motorway must also be in your list.
interesting thing Radi, I know you like skinny straight girls with no curves but you like motorways with sharp curves isn't that a bit confusing for you
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Old May 15th, 2010, 12:46 AM   #2679
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Two aerial shots of Motorway Lyulin[A5]/Sofia Ring Road(the red circle) intersection from a bulgarian forumer LG.The first is from 2009 and the second-2010:









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Old May 15th, 2010, 01:36 PM   #2680
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On a side note; Lyulin will be among the highest motorways in Europe. It will reach approximately 900 meters altitude. For example the Gotthard Autobahn is 1050 m, so not much higher. Only the A75 in France and several Autovías in Spain reach greater altitudes (up to 1500 m).
Chris, Where did you get this info from ?
It's bizarre, because Sofia is on about 550 meters altitude and the Lyulin motorway doesn't seem to climb another 400 meters ... or maybe it does ?
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