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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #2981
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According to the map above there is a missing part of A1 of Sofia ring. Is there any plans to connect two parts of A1 in the future?
the northen part of Sofia ring road is 2 by 3+1 road but it can't be a motorway cause it's in the city
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Old October 15th, 2010, 12:45 PM   #2982
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Part of Sofia's ringroad in urgent need of renovation

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Old October 15th, 2010, 02:10 PM   #2983
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Part of Sofia's ringroad in urgent need of renovation

Looks like Struma in 5 years future.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #2984
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The crashbarriers are shiny and guarantee a psychedelic drive.
Good job!You know how to feed the troll
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Old October 15th, 2010, 03:16 PM   #2985
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the northen part of Sofia ring road is 2 by 3+1 road but it can't be a motorway cause it's in the city
No, it is not in the city.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 03:43 PM   #2986
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Part of Sofia's ringroad in urgent need of renovation

I think the plain is drawn into the pic, I don't know of Boeing 747 starting from Sofia, too few people in one direction to fil such a big airplane.

and no, Struma wont look like this in 5 years, it will still be a good motorway.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 08:04 PM   #2987
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No, it is not in the city.
Well in reality it's not in the city yet but formally it is part of it.So my logic was that it can't be shown as a motorway on any map cause it's a part of the ringroad.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #2988
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Part of Sofia's ringroad in urgent need of renovation

I think that part is in urgent need of shiny crashbarriers
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Old October 16th, 2010, 07:57 PM   #2989
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Well in reality it's not in the city yet but formally it is part of it.So my logic was that it can't be shown as a motorway on any map cause it's a part of the ringroad.
Om the other hand, until the city urbanizes the areas around it, speed limit will be the same as on a real motorway-130kmh

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Old October 16th, 2010, 08:31 PM   #2990
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As a point of interest, it does look odd on that motorway plan to have motorways to Serbia, Turkey and Greece, but not Romania. It just seems bizarre that there is no route north from the A2 to Bucharest. Romania feels the same way, and isn't planning a motorway south from Bucharest into Bulgaria either, but I'd have thought that having a link between these two EU countries would be sensible.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 11:49 PM   #2991
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As a point of interest, it does look odd on that motorway plan to have motorways to Serbia, Turkey and Greece, but not Romania. It just seems bizarre that there is no route north from the A2 to Bucharest. Romania feels the same way, and isn't planning a motorway south from Bucharest into Bulgaria either, but I'd have thought that having a link between these two EU countries would be sensible.
Yeah, strange enough for both countries. I don't understand it either. But to defend my country , the existing road between Bucharest and Giurgiu, at the Bulgarian border, is 2x2 and in very good shape.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:40 AM   #2992
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The plans, at least for now, are to build two 2x2 roads from Ruse to Veliko Turnovo and Shumen. Unfortunately we haven't heard anything specific so far. The reason there are no plans for a motorway is that the traffic was too low. In the last few years that has changed dramatically but we still have enough motorways to build before we even start to think about one to Ruse. At the moment all of the motorway constructions is in Southern Bulgaria, due to the large volume of traffic and lobbyism. We actually had a big discussion about that in the Bulgarian section, as people from the northern parts feel that nothing is been done to improve the infrastructure there. My point is that in the next few years things are going to change, with the focus gradually shifting to the north so you could expect something new but most probably after 2020.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 07:56 AM   #2993
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I'm afraid 2020 is a realistic term for my country too, as I've seen no plan yet for a motorway between Bucharest and Giugiu. Let's hope we'll be still alive in 2020, and I'll pay the first round of beers in Giurgiu or Ruse, you pick the place.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 12:24 AM   #2994
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BTW, our current government is constantly restating its plans to rebuild the road(E-79) from Botevgrad(A2 Hemus Motorway) to Vidin/Calafat(Danube Bridge-II) as a 2x2 road.

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Old October 21st, 2010, 04:39 PM   #2995
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Unfortunately, ours doesn't have any major plans for infrastructure linking to the bridge.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 04:59 PM   #2996
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We've been presenting for several weeks already pics from the site, with 4 major viaducts linking road and rail to the bridge, as well as the fact that the constructor says all will be ready by summer next year.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 10:03 AM   #2997
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Yeah, I know that - but I meant no motorway/express road/4-lane road. Anyway, with Via Carpatia what I said may (fortunately) not be true anymore.
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Old October 25th, 2010, 03:14 PM   #2998
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However, I wonder how and when they will widen the southwestern part of the ring road. It runs through a densely populated area, and shifting the ring road outside the city is not possible due to the Vitosha Mountains.
There goes the answer to your question
The municipality will take money from the Regioanl Development fund in order to build 5.1 km. more of the Sofia ring road ... between the current end at Bratya Bukston blvd. and the roundabout of Lyulin Motorway.

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Old October 25th, 2010, 06:55 PM   #2999
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There goes the answer to your question
The municipality will take money from the Regioanl Development fund in order to build 5.1 km. more of the Sofia ring road ... between the current end at Bratya Bukston blvd. and the roundabout of Lyulin Motorway.

Here is a more detailed map and a google translated article with more info:

[IMG]http://i55.************/1zwm8n5.jpg[/IMG]
Материала бъка от доста грешки, не е само бъркането на лента и платно. В целия текст и на схемата се говори за 5 км. от Околовръстното, но това в никакъв случай не е целия участък до пътния възел на Магистрала Люлин, както подвеждащо е написала авторката. По-скоро става дума само за участъка от бул. Бъкстон до естакадата над ЖП линията София-Перник. За да се забележи това е достатъчно просто да се видят километричните означения. За частта от жп линията София - Перник до автомагистрала "Люлин" от км 55+100 до км 58+690.58 се знае само, че е проектиран от ЕТ "Нела", но повече подробности за него не са обявявани.
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Old October 26th, 2010, 12:20 AM   #3000
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Yeah, I know that - but I meant no motorway/express road/4-lane road. Anyway, with Via Carpatia what I said may (fortunately) not be true anymore.
The C IV south branch has been planned for what now....4-5 years? And it's planned to enter under the EU financing budget after 2013. Via Carpatia only acknowledges something that has been decided long before.
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