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Old March 13th, 2011, 09:24 PM   #3181
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No, yours unfortunately didn't, because you have money issues.



I didn't understood much. Did you have problems with bulgarian traffic police("КАТ")? And when? What was the situation?
Is this why you are avoiding Bulgaria?
Traveling through Bulgaria many, many times and never had trouble with BG police. If you obey rules, there is no single problem.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 09:58 PM   #3182
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Traveling through Bulgaria many, many times and never had trouble with BG police. If you obey rules, there is no single problem.
Me too. And also the drivers are very cooperative flashing you when there is a police car further ahead.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:03 PM   #3183
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It may be different if you have out-of-region license plates. There have been many records of corruption among the Bulgarian highway police and customs officers at the Dutch ANWB motorist association.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #3184
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It may be different if you have out-of-region license plates. There have been many records of corruption among the Bulgarian highway police and customs officers at the Dutch ANWB motorist association.
Regarding customs officers, there were indeed many cases of corruption, but most of them before 2007. Since entering EU situation improved dramatically. The same applies to highway police, also to a smaller extent. But for a tourist a corrupt officer might be the only chance to keep his licence if being guilty for violating some traffic rules.
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Old March 14th, 2011, 11:31 AM   #3185
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It may be different if you have out-of-region license plates. There have been many records of corruption among the Bulgarian highway police and customs officers at the Dutch ANWB motorist association.
If you respect the speed limit, i'm pretty sure there won't be any problem with the BG traffic police.
Most of the cases of corruption you mentionned, are recorded by drivers coming from Netherlands, Belguim and Germany and hurrying for their vacation at home: Turkey. This could also be interpreted as some signs of racism amongst bulgarian traffic policemen. But anyway, i repeat : If you stick to the traffic rules, you won't even be stopped for a routine check.

P.S. What would you say about greek policemen taking away your front licence plate until you pay the fine at the local prefecture ? They do it quite often. Why nobody complains about it ? Law is law.

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Old March 14th, 2011, 11:04 PM   #3186
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I hope you're right. Why is now not allowed that they join the Shengen?
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Old March 15th, 2011, 10:16 AM   #3187
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Hi PhirgataZFs1694!
According to your map:




-A1 (Trakia Motorway) Kalotina-Sofia-Burgas
-A3 (Maritza Motorway) Chirpan-Svilengrad
-A4 (Cherno More Motorway) Varna-Burgas
-A5 (Lyulin Motorway) Sofia-Daskalovo Junction

On GE and GM we can find a different approach of the bulgarian motorways numbering:
-A1 Kalotina-Sofia-Chirpan-Svilengrad
-A4 Chirpan-Burgas
-A5 Varna-Burgas

Which one is the correct version? Thanks for answering!
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Old March 15th, 2011, 03:01 PM   #3188
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Hi PhirgataZFs1694!
According to your map:




-A1 (Trakia Motorway) Kalotina-Sofia-Burgas
-A3 (Maritza Motorway) Chirpan-Svilengrad
-A4 (Cherno More Motorway) Varna-Burgas
-A5 (Lyulin Motorway) Sofia-Daskalovo Junction

On GE and GM we can find a different approach of the bulgarian motorways numbering:
-A1 Kalotina-Sofia-Chirpan-Svilengrad
-A4 Chirpan-Burgas
-A5 Varna-Burgas

Which one is the correct version? Thanks for answering!
Hi,teddyted!
Well, it's quite hard to tell. Motorway numbering is a bit mixed up. We have some information that the whole numbering system of our motorway network may be revised soon.

For example, mediar has seen in the documentation for lots 2,3 and 4 that the road signature will indicate that you are traveling on A1:
[IMG]http://i52.************/2ut52zp.jpg[/IMG]
On the other hand, the tenders for lot 2 of Maritsa Motorway are written in the ministry's website as tenders for A1 again.
Another example is that Lyulin Motorway may become A6 as part of Struma Motorway according to the newly installed signature(it still U/C).

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Old March 15th, 2011, 06:51 PM   #3189
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OK, I got it. The same old story in our countries.
Thanks!
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Old March 15th, 2011, 09:54 PM   #3190
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If you respect the speed limit, i'm pretty sure there won't be any problem with the BG traffic police.
Most of the cases of corruption you mentionned, are recorded by drivers coming from Netherlands, Belguim and Germany and hurrying for their vacation at home: Turkey. This could also be interpreted as some signs of racism amongst bulgarian traffic policemen. But anyway, i repeat : If you stick to the traffic rules, you won't even be stopped for a routine check.

P.S. What would you say about greek policemen taking away your front licence plate until you pay the fine at the local prefecture ? They do it quite often. Why nobody complains about it ? Law is law.
Exactly. Some foreigners drive in Bulgaria like crazy, apparently with no respect for the law. I don't want to mention nationalities, but we all know them
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Old March 16th, 2011, 12:30 AM   #3191
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Exactly. Some foreigners drive in Bulgaria like crazy, apparently with no respect for the law. I don't want to mention nationalities, but we all know them
The first step for improvement is to accept the current situation. Unfortunately, this is for many a not yet achieved. This is a forum on highways. I have shared my experience. I will not longer respond.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 01:50 AM   #3192
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Funds for a 9km long second(right) carriageway of Martisa Motorway [A3] have been allocated by the government and for Shumen-Belokopitovo of Hemus Motorway [A2].

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Old March 20th, 2011, 03:05 AM   #3193
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Lyulin Motorway[A5]:

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 02:41 AM   #3194
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On 1st of February Minister of Regional Development And Public Works has presented his priorities for the future development of bulgarian road infrastructure and current status of the same.

For those who understand bulgarian or are willing to google translate it here are:
-the .pdf /more information/
-the power point presentation

For those who can't:there are a lot of pictures and diagrams.

To sum up priorities are:
Motorways:
  1. Struma[A6]-tendered lot1; lot4 this week
  2. Martisa[A3]-tendered lot1&2, U/C 3-4km near border
  3. SRB-Kalotina-Sofia[A1]
  4. Hemus[A2]
  5. Cherno More[A4]
  6. Trakya[A1]-U/C lots 1,2,3
  7. Lyulin[A5]-U/C

Expressways(2x2x3,5m, no emergency lanes, grade separated, two level junctions, begin or end with roundabouts or traffic lights; maximum speed: unknown):
  1. RO-Danube Bridge II "Calafat-Vidin" -Vidin-Botevgrad-Hemus[A2]
  2. RO-Ruse-Veliko Tarnovo-Gabrovo-Stara Zagora-Kardzali-GR /in some parts 2x1/
  3. RO-Ruse-Shumen-Hemus[A2]
  4. MKD-Kyustendil-Sofia
  5. MKD-Kyustendil-Samokov-[north to Trakia[A1] then Hemus[A2]/east to Trakia[A1]] or Rila Expressway
  6. Varna-Durankula/Vama Vece-RO
  7. Plovdiv-Asenovgrad

Other road infrastructure:
  1. Tunnel in the Shipka pass(part of Gabrovo-Stara Zagora Exw)
  2. Bridge over Danube at Silistra-Calarasi
  3. Bridge over the Danube at Oryahovo-Bechet


Unified list of priorities:
  1. Struma[A6] Motorway
  2. Vidin-Botevgrad Exw
  3. Maritsa Motorway[A3]
  4. SRB-Sofia Motorway[A1]
  5. Hemus Motorway[A2]
  6. RO-Ruse-Gabrovo-Stara Zagora-GR Exw
  7. Cherno more Motorway[A4]
  8. Ruse-Shumen Exw
  9. MKD-Kyustendil Samokov-Trakia[A1]/Hemus[A2] Exw or Rila Exw
  10. Varna-RO Exw
  11. Plovdiv-Asenovgrad Exw
  12. Trakia Motorway[A1]
  13. Lyulin Motorway[A5]
  14. Bridge Silistra-Calarasi
  15. Bridge Oryahovo-Bechet

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Old March 26th, 2011, 02:03 AM   #3195
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The price offers in the tender for 31.4 km lot1 Chirpan-Dimitrovgrad of Maritsa Motorway[A3] have been opened yesterday(especially for my romanian friends nenea_hartia and Le Clerk):

1.Cooperativa Muratori e Cementisti – Cmc di Ravenna/Italy/ - 66 564 839 euro - 2.119 mln euro per km

2.Consortium Maritsa 1/bg:Glavbolgarstroy(the builder of Dragalevtsi roundabout junction and renovation of blrd. Brussels), ISA 2000, "Putstroy"92; itl:Impresa/ - 69 425 000 euro - 2.210 mln euro per km

3.Aktor/Greece/ - 69 800 000 euro - 2.222 mln euro per km

4.Union Maritsa 1 DZZD/bg:PSI(subsidary of Trace-the builder of lot 2 of Trakia Motorway[A1]); cro:Konstruktor/ - 69 850 000 euro - 2.224 mln euro per km

5.Consortium "Maritsa-Alpine-SK13"/bg:SK13; aut:Alpine/ - 69 888 889 - 2.225 mln euro per km

6.Terna/Greece/ - 77 255 285 euro - 2.460 mln euro per km

7.Consortium Strabag Bulgaria - Maritsa 1/bg subwidary of Strabag Austria/ - 93 691 958.8 euro - 2.983 mln euro per km

Indicative value: 104 mln euro - 3.312 mln euro per km

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Old March 26th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #3196
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Thank you.

How is it that Strabag has offered a price so disproportionate?
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Old March 28th, 2011, 01:06 AM   #3197
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Thank you.

How is it that Strabag has offered a price so disproportionate?
They always tend to submit ridiculous offers, but after their work at Terminal 2 of Sofia's Airport(left a leaking roof) and part of road E-79 in northen Bulgaria(ripples), I personally don't mind

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Bulgarian PM Vows to Convince EU to Give Cash for Highway

Within months the European Commission will include Bulgaria's Hemus Highway in its financing operational programmes, according to Bulgarian PM Boyko Borisov.

Speaking in Varna, Bulgaria's third-largest city and an endpoint to the projected highway, Borisov said that during the week he had talks with EC President Jose Barroso over the matter and argued that Hemus is strategic for Bulgaria.

Borisov added that he is convinced that the European Commission will agree to finance the project.

The Bulgarian PM moreover said he was hopeful that the highway will be finished by 2014.
Source: http://www.novinite.com/
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Old March 29th, 2011, 10:56 AM   #3198
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Hi PhirgataZFs1694!
According to your map:




-A1 (Trakia Motorway) Kalotina-Sofia-Burgas
-A3 (Maritza Motorway) Chirpan-Svilengrad
-A4 (Cherno More Motorway) Varna-Burgas
-A5 (Lyulin Motorway) Sofia-Daskalovo Junction

On GE and GM we can find a different approach of the bulgarian motorways numbering:
-A1 Kalotina-Sofia-Chirpan-Svilengrad
-A4 Chirpan-Burgas
-A5 Varna-Burgas

Which one is the correct version? Thanks for answering!
Това м/у Враца и Мездра е 2х2 каква магистрала ги гони
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Old March 29th, 2011, 01:11 PM   #3199
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Това м/у Враца и Мездра е 2х2 каква магистрала ги гони
It's teddyted's map based on the map with new priorities. He has some small inaccuracies, but none fatal
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Old March 29th, 2011, 01:14 PM   #3200
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Това м/у Враца и Мездра е 2х2 каква магистрала ги гони
It's teddyted's map based on the map with new priorities. He has some small inaccuracies, but none fatal

A study made in 1996 showed that AADT on the route Pernik-Sofia will reach 68 892 by 2020.

A map with alternative motorway and expressway development by a bulgarian engineer from an article/in bg/:

Blue-motorway in use
Green-motorway U/C
Yellow-motorway in project/according to the author/
Pink-Expressway projects

BTW, he states that he supports motorways on european corridors, because they are only around 1/3 more expensive than expressways, but safer.

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