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Old April 22nd, 2011, 11:12 AM   #3281
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I think they combined Struma and Lyulin motorways, with the number A6, and Cherno More is now A5. Actually, the situation with the numbers right now is a mess. I thing they'll fix it the with the opening of Lyulin and Trakia Motorways.
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 11:08 PM   #3282
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Old April 28th, 2011, 03:27 AM   #3283
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In Serbia they are building a new motorway from Nis to the Bulgarian border. But how is it from Sofia to the Serbian border?
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Old April 28th, 2011, 11:04 AM   #3284
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There is a two-way road
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Old April 28th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #3285
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There is a two-way road
Is it a real dual carriageway from Sofia to Serbian border? Or just a normal raod? Do they have any plans to sign it to a motorway?

Bulgaria is a part of the EU so maybe they can have money from the EU to make it to a real motorway. Do they have any plans to do that?
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Old April 29th, 2011, 03:53 PM   #3286
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Is it a real dual carriageway from Sofia to Serbian border? Or just a normal raod? Do they have any plans to sign it to a motorway?

Bulgaria is a part of the EU so maybe they can have money from the EU to make it to a real motorway. Do they have any plans to do that?
From Sofia to Slivnitsa it's a real dual carriageway. From Slivnitsa to Serbian border it's a normal road. It won't become a motorway.
There will be a completely new motorway that will start from the new Sofia north ring-road. There are plans for the next term from 2014, due to the good condition of the current road.
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Old April 29th, 2011, 04:11 PM   #3287
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From Sofia to Slivnitsa it's a real dual carriageway. From Slivnitsa to Serbian border it's a normal road. It won't become a motorway.
There will be a completely new motorway that will start from the new Sofia north ring-road. There are plans for the next term from 2014, due to the good condition of the current road.

So there is no plans to rebuild the part from Slivnitsa to Serbian border to at least dual carriageway? This is a missing link from Istanbul to the rest of Europe.
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Old April 29th, 2011, 06:48 PM   #3288
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So there is no plans to rebuild the part from Slivnitsa to Serbian border to at least dual carriageway? This is a missing link from Istanbul to the rest of Europe.
The plan is for a completely new highway, most likely parallel to the existing road. Some sections of the old road might be rebuilt or upgraded. When it's all said and done there will be a full grade separated highway from Sofia to the Serbian border. There are news reports in the Bulgarian media, indicating that the total cost of the project should be around 400 million EUR partially financed by the EU. From there on, it is my understanding that Serbia is already building their part from the Bulgarian border to the city of Nis.

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Old April 30th, 2011, 01:26 AM   #3289
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Sofia-Slivnitsa is 2x2 without emergency lanes ans Slivnitsa-SRB border is 1x2. Plans are for a future motorway SRB border-Northen Speedy Tangent.

Tender offers for the construction of 34-km lot 2 Dimitrovgrad-Harmanli of Maritsa Motorway[A3] have been opened:
1.Martisa Highway/Putnostroitelna Tehnika(BG)+Porr(AU)/ 61mln euro 1.83mln\km
2.Consortium "Lena ISA-lot 2"/Lena Engineria y Construsois(POR)+ISA 2000(BG)/ 63.5mln euro 1.86mln\km
3.Union Maritsa DZZD/Konstruktor(CRO)+PSI(BG)/ 64.5mln euro 1.89mln\km
4.Cooperativa Muratoria Cemenesti - CMC Di Ravena/ITL/ 66.5mln euro 1.94mln\km
5.Aktor/GR/ 67mln euro 1.965mln\km
5.Salavatore Matreze - eng. Claudio Salini Grandi Lavori/ITL/ 72mln euro 2.105mln\km
6.Consortium "Maritsa 2"/Impresa(ESP)+Glavbolgarstroy(BG)+Putstroy 92(BG)/ 73mln euro 2.13mln\km
7.Consortium "Rubau - Sofstroy"/AU+BG/ 73.5mln euro 2.155mln\km
8.Consortium "Maritsa - SK13 - Alpine"/BG+AU/ 79.5mln euro 2.33mln\km
9.Terna/GR/ 85.5mln euro 2.505mln\km

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Old April 30th, 2011, 09:26 AM   #3290
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That is extremely cheap... Are there usually cost-escalations in Bulgaria?
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Old April 30th, 2011, 03:11 PM   #3291
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There used to be, untill the latest government. You can compare a brand new section in Bulgaria and a brand new section in Croatia or Slovenia. And you'll see why our newest sections are so cheap. The problem is mainly in the old and poor construction plans and the lack of any additional elements on our motorways.

For example: Burgas - Karnobat was opened a few years ago. Look at it now:



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The entire reportages of the two newest motorway sections in Bulgaria are as follows:

Chirpan - Stara Zagora - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...9#post63425589
Tinypic slightly decreased the quality of the photos, so better one can be found in my site - http://mediar.hybridfire.net/photos/...8-09-2010.html

Karnobat - Burgas - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...3#post75583693

In comparison, you can visit the threads of the other countries and compare their newest motorways with ours.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 04:02 PM   #3292
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Actually, IMHO, the technical parameters of our motorways are lower compared to motorways in Europe. For example, our motorways are 2x2x3,75m + 2ex3m without concrete plate for base. Signs are smaller and fewer. Labour is the cheapest in EU. Construction materials also. The terrain is the best for motorways-plains. Few intersections and few overpasses and underpasses. The crisis forces construction companies just to make turnover with small or no profit.

BTW, the minister of regional development and public works has said that the offer is so low in his opinion that he could ask for an external audit of the offer.

Finally, the spared funds will be allocated for the Struma Motorway project.

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Old May 1st, 2011, 12:20 AM   #3293
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Croatia are not even in the EU and their roads are much much better than ours (Bulgaria). How can they do it and we can't
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Old May 1st, 2011, 12:38 AM   #3294
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Croatia are not even in the EU and their roads are much much better than ours (Bulgaria).
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How can they do it and we can't
Same question here.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 12:41 AM   #3295
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Croatia are not even in the EU and their roads are much much better than ours (Bulgaria). How can they do it and we can't
Yes you have right, Bulgaria has Europe's worst roads even though they've tried to do a bit after they entered the EU in 2007. Even Sofya have miserable roads where there are large holes as big as football. It is a mafia country, there are still many tourists being robbed on the highways of "fake " police.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 01:51 AM   #3296
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For the moment they are building more motorways in Serbia than in Bulgaria. So it's not only in Croatia they have good roads outside of the EU.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 02:07 AM   #3297
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For the moment they are building more motorways in Serbia than in Bulgaria. So it's not only in Croatia they have good roads outside of the EU.
Any source for that information? How many km are currently under construction in Serbia?
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Old May 1st, 2011, 03:01 AM   #3298
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First of all, friends from Bulgaria and Romania, stop self-pitting speeches. It may be true that our road conditions are not perfect but change is on the way. Besides there are many more countries with worse roads than those with better.

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Yes you have right, Bulgaria has Europe's worst roads even though they've tried to do a bit after they entered the EU in 2007. Even Sofya have miserable roads where there are large holes as big as football. It is a mafia country, there are still many tourists being robbed on the highways of "fake " police.
You have registered just to bash Bulgaria!? You are 0% danish, IMO.
According to the strategy plan 2020 for road infrastructure 32% are bad roads, 27% are medium quality roads, 41% are good quality roads. In Bulgaria we have 36000km roads. Do the math alone.
And motorway robberies are a distant thing form the past. All robbers are sleeping in jail while you are reading this post and police is not allowed anymore on motorways.

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Old May 1st, 2011, 09:07 AM   #3299
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Yes you have right, Bulgaria has Europe's worst roads even though they've tried to do a bit after they entered the EU in 2007. Even Sofya have miserable roads where there are large holes as big as football. It is a mafia country, there are still many tourists being robbed on the highways of "fake " police.
From your words i see clearly that you haven't been in Bulgaria in the recent years and talking stories and myths heard from some friend of a friend or so.
Well, I know a guy who's car has been stolen from a parking on the A8 in Germany and never found by the german police. What would you say about that?

P.S. In Bulgaria happen just as much crimes as in any other country. Don't dare to tell me that in Denmark, or wherever you live, you don't lock your houses!

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Old May 1st, 2011, 09:22 AM   #3300
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Yes you have right, Bulgaria has Europe's worst roads even though they've tried to do a bit after they entered the EU in 2007. Even Sofya have miserable roads where there are large holes as big as football. It is a mafia country, there are still many tourists being robbed on the highways of "fake " police.
Don't be forgetting that when we had the alphabet and wrote literature, your ancestors still had horns on their heads, my friend. If they're your ancestors at all.

Times change and the wheel of life keeps turning. Sometimes one's at the bottom of the wheel, then after a while he/she's climbing to the top.

You should check out the recent developments in Bulgaria and see for yourself that what you wrote is about 10-12 year old information. You're welcome to browse the Bulgarian Section of SSC, as well as this one a couple of pages back and have a look at what's been done the last few years and what's being done right now.
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