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Old May 17th, 2011, 04:33 PM   #3381
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Radi if you want to take off then try it on Trakia.
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Old May 17th, 2011, 04:35 PM   #3382
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How you know they are in winter only? there must be an indication for that they are only in winter.
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Old May 17th, 2011, 07:04 PM   #3383
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The markings are shining a lot. it looks like there is phosphor installed or some tubes glow under them. That is really a masterpeace.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 07:36 PM   #3384
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A5 Lyulin

Very good loking motorway! Well done!
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Old May 18th, 2011, 07:37 PM   #3385
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The markings are shining a lot. it looks like there is phosphor installed or some tubes glow under them. That is really a masterpeace.
Radi, you are the only poet of roads from this forum. Noone can put the roads in lyrics like you do.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 12:48 AM   #3386
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I have chatted with the guy who recorded that video and he said. He lkes the Struma motorway a lot, he said the asphalt is great and there is basically no difference between the Ljulin motorway and the Struma motorway. He said it is like one long motorway. Big respect to the enduring asphalt and to the Builders of it, I could imagine some of them are still proud of the work they did. Cause it is almost 5 years and the asphalt still feels really great and it also looks really good. But when you enter the motorway you emdiiatelly notice that the asphalt is very thick and it feels very hard and like some runway. It is very different to normal asphalt, when you enter that road or the E-79 nationalroad from Dupnica towards Dolna Dykania it feels like you are on a high speed road and the asphalt feels incredible. Even if it gets holes after next winter, altough I don#t guess it will. It is still incredible. It has to endure very long very hard winters and a lot of rain in summer and a lot of dust. Would it be at some clean place with better wheather conditions, it would last very long. Hopefully the Ljulin will be the same, when people use it, they think it is not bulgaria but think they are in an sciense fiction game, especially when entering the tunnels and then entering the incredible asphalt of the Struma motorway. Both motorways are like a long bridge, since they either have bridges or are on a enbarkment.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 10:08 AM   #3387
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But what about the section between 11:54 and 12:01 in the video?
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Old May 20th, 2011, 04:35 PM   #3388
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People in the Bulgarian forums are leaving very positive comments about the Ljulin motorway. Some people say, they have been driving a lot outside bulgaria, but this masterpiece is better, i can translate quotes to show you. So when normal people say it is very good and prefectly smooth. It must really be something outstanding. Something, taht will cause you fear and extreme doses of adrenalin when you enter it. I gues in real it is shing a lot and is just incredible. i guess it is like the struma motorway was when it was ready. something that just gives you extreme fun and adrenalin, something you want to turn the music as loud as possible and enjoy driving fast and looking how everything shines and you feel absolutely nothing while driving on it. now we have 60 km kilometers of road in bulgaria that are like that. the asphalt of the older E-79 fstarting at Dupnica and struma motorway still looks like it is unused and feels like it and the Ljulin motorway seems to be the same basing on the quotes from bulgarian people. Imagine a road of 60 km lengh with no noticable waves where you put a coke on the table in bus and it wont fall down. A road that feels like gliding. If the Ljulin motorway is that great People who are going from Bulgaria to greece will enter the motorway. Stop at the Mc donald's to relax and grasp what they have seen and felt, eat something, and continue their journey on the next 30 kilometers of road they don't feel anything. If the Ljulin motorway is that good, I don't know if it is. Then Bulgaria has truly some objects that are the proudness of Bulgaria. Like the Struma motorway is. Poeple who are driving on it still say, "I have been driving on a lot of motorways in italy, Croatia, Slovenia, but they are not really like this motorway where you don't feel anything" Big respect.
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Old May 20th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #3389
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Radi pls stop to repeat the same things Lulin is ok for now but we will see what will be in the winter. This is just 19 km, when we have full highway from Sofia to Solun then you can make stories about how good is the motorway is and how shiny crashbarriers have.
and Croatian motorways are far better then Lulin
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Old May 20th, 2011, 09:40 PM   #3390
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People in the Bulgarian forums are leaving very positive comments about the Ljulin motorway. Some people say, they have been driving a lot outside bulgaria, but this masterpiece is better, i can translate quotes to show you. So when normal people say it is very good and prefectly smooth. It must really be something outstanding. Something, taht will cause you fear and extreme doses of adrenalin when you enter it. I gues in real it is shing a lot and is just incredible. i guess it is like the struma motorway was when it was ready. something that just gives you extreme fun and adrenalin, something you want to turn the music as loud as possible and enjoy driving fast and looking how everything shines and you feel absolutely nothing while driving on it.
WOW. After reading that I put driving on bulgarian motorways on my To do list before I die.
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Old May 20th, 2011, 11:23 PM   #3391
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Radi pls stop to repeat the same things Lulin is ok for now but we will see what will be in the winter. This is just 19 km, when we have full highway from Sofia to Solun then you can make stories about how good is the motorway is and how shiny crashbarriers have.
and Croatian motorways are far better then Lulin
People on the Bulgarian forum are reporting it is very good. Read for your own. And the Struma motorway is still very good, altough it has endured a lot of hard winters and a lot of sand and dust. Even it's markings have partly faded unfortunately and have to be reneweed. But it's asphalt is still very good, the same as the E-79 nationalroad which is incredibly smooth.
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Old May 21st, 2011, 08:16 PM   #3392
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Where oes Lyulin Motorway starts?
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Old May 21st, 2011, 09:01 PM   #3393
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Here or here. It depends how you look at it.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 07:36 AM   #3394
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so if you go from Serbia to Turkey you will not use it?
How the drivers who are driving from Serbia to Turkey pass Sofia? What road is used?
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 09:51 AM   #3395
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so if you go from Serbia to Turkey you will not use it?
Correct if you enter Bulgaria through E80 (Kalotina) as most people do, or basically almost any other point. Only if you enter through Ribarci (the southernmost border crossing point), then it is viable to use the Lyulin Motorway.

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How the drivers who are driving from Serbia to Turkey pass Sofia? What road is used?
They drive to the northwest corner of the city on E80 and the vast majority turn left at this intersection and use the northern section of Sofia Ring Road until they reach this cloverleaf and take the Triakia Motorway towards Plovdiv, Svilengrad and the Turkish Border at Kapitan Andreevo / Kapikule. This is also the way indicated on the road signs.

Then others, such as my father who knows the road, use the southern section of Sofia Ring Road, which is in better condition and shorter, too. See for yourself:



Credits to Jlokym from the Bulgarian Section for that video. He went the other way though (west on the southern section).
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 11:20 AM   #3396
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The Sofia Ring Road needs upgrade badly. Some sectors are completely unacceptable for a 1.3 million city ring road.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 11:32 AM   #3397
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They're working on it, however most people, including myself, are not really satisfied with the pace at which things are moving. For example, the section between 1:29 and 5:11 on the video above is currently being upgraded to 2x3 lanes w/ separate lanes for local traffic. Then again, that's about two kilometers of the appr. 60 km long ring (you can see some pictures here).

We're all hoping the pace will pick up in the next few years. For now we have a government focusing heavily on infrastructure construction and the prospects are better than they were before.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 01:53 PM   #3398
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and that ring road is so important for traffic western Europe middle east, it is not only Sofia's ring road.

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Old May 22nd, 2011, 03:38 PM   #3399
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It is cause they just don't show them and not a lot of pics are taken. People take pics of Hemus motorway a lot which has some very bad parts indeet. But they would not show videso of new and good motorways like this one here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzuCq...layer_embedded

This is a very good nationalroad and a lot others are like that in Bulgaria aswell.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 04:12 PM   #3400
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Are there more pictures of the road signs along A5 - Lyulin? This one indicates A6. Not really that weird if you consider the next exit is at Pernik where Lyulin becomes Struma, but it's still a bit weird. I'm particularly interested in the signage in Pernik and Sofia leading up to the Lyulin Motorway.

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