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Old August 28th, 2007, 03:41 AM   #341
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No, it is waste of asphalt, German Autobahns don´t have emergency lames on exits either.
German Motorways have very poorly designed exits. You have to slow a lot not to crash on them.
Usually after very short exit lane you have sharp turn, often 90 degrees or even more.
I much prefer British exits, long exit lane, no sharp turns (of course with some exceptions), you don’t have to slow a lot on motorway itself, which is often necessary on German motorways, especially older.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:30 AM   #342
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An awful lot of Dutch ones don't either. But in all fairness to Chris all newer Dutch motorways (1970 onwards) have stopping shoulders on exit lanes.
That's not true. At least untill the 90's they put shoulders on exits on new motorways. It's a pity they don't do it anymore, indeed, for instance on the A50 Oss - Eindhoven.

The dangerous thing on German junctions is the combination of sharp curves (30/40/50km/h, even on the ramps that don't need to take a 180 degree turn), small 'incoming lanes', high or no speed limits and the lack of emergency lanes. I often only get with about only 80 km/h on the autobahn.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 12:31 PM   #343
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German Motorways have very poorly designed exits. You have to slow a lot not to crash on them.
Usually after very short exit lane you have sharp turn, often 90 degrees or even more.
I much prefer British exits, long exit lane, no sharp turns (of course with some exceptions), you don’t have to slow a lot on motorway itself, which is often necessary on German motorways, especially older.
yes, you should see the exits on the new Struma motorway in Bulgaria and compare them to the German ones, i wasn´t able to photograph the best exits, you know what, two lames are going away from motorway and go strait down to a junction under the motorway with trafficlights, you pass over the beautiful junctions and see them just under you, there are probably for junctions like that which are overpassed with a bridge by the motorway, it´s really amazing.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/127...8be24c1d_b.jpg

similar junctions can be found at the Struma motorway.

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Old August 31st, 2007, 06:38 PM   #344
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An important pic, this was the opening ceremonia of the best motorway in Bulgaria.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 11:30 PM   #345
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I had to photograph the one and a hal year old road which goes up to the village were my grandmother lives which is very small but the road but even tough the road looks and feels like a national road.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 06:05 PM   #346
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Oh and i know why on Bulgarian motorways it looks like the asphalt has big points etc when it rains, it is because the asphalt doesn´t allow water and it stays on it like drops, like on some waterresistent tableblankets, you see the water in form of a drop because it is waterresistent.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 06:17 PM   #347
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Well thats not very good then is it
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 06:22 PM   #348
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Well thats not very good then is it
No, it is superb, do you know at all how expensive such tableblankets are? The asphalt doesn´t allow water, that means it is very smooth and is from material that makes the water go away which ofcourse is expensive. that´s just the new asphalt on the struma motorway and the national road to dupnica and on some road which looks like a national road and is very new but just leads into a 3000 inhabitants village. Very good.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 06:38 PM   #349
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No, it is superb, do you know at all how expensive such tableblankets are? The asphalt doesn´t allow water, that means it is very smooth and is from material that makes the water go away which ofcourse is expensive. that´s just the new asphalt on the struma motorway and the national road to dupnica and on some road which looks like a national road and is very new but just leads into a 3000 inhabitants village. Very good.
He meant that water should flow off the road,thats why roads have parabola-like structure.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 07:41 PM   #350
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that's called "cant" or "camber". "Überhöhung" in German. "Verkanting" in Dutch.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 08:44 PM   #351
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that's called "cant" or "camber". "Überhöhung" in German. "Verkanting" in Dutch.
Camamber? where? I am no transportation engineer,so those words mean nothing to me
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Old September 4th, 2007, 10:58 AM   #352
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Here you have more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superelevation

Also this road feature is present everywhere and always, even on macadam roads, so I don't know, why radi emphasizes it?
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Old September 4th, 2007, 11:25 AM   #353
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so I don't know, why radi emphasizes it?
why is that weird? get used!
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Here you have more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superelevation

Also this road feature is present everywhere and always, even on macadam roads, so I don't know, why radi emphasizes it?
Thank you! If I remember well,even Romans made their roads this way.
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Old September 4th, 2007, 03:06 PM   #355
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That's not true. At least untill the 90's they put shoulders on exits on new motorways. It's a pity they don't do it anymore, indeed, for instance on the A50 Oss - Eindhoven.
Not entirely true, if you look at the new A59 near Rosmalen, for instance, you can see that the exits do have hard shoulders. Also the new exit on the A27 near Nieuwegein has hard shoulders. I believe it has something to do with the fact that the A50 had to be build as cheap as possible.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 08:51 PM   #356
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Show me the newest best looking motorways and normal roads in your country

I will psot pics of the Struma motorway when i will get over my lazyness, since it is the best one in Bulgaria and when i will take also pics from some other very good national roads which look futuristic.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 12:32 AM   #357
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Bulgaria boosts road maintenance

The Bulgarian government is to spend €1 billion on building and maintaining roads over the next six years. Of the seven EU countries whose transport programmes are currently being financed, Bulgaria's transport infrastructure spend is the highest. In 2008, construction will begin of a 10.5km highway between Plovdiv and Asenovgrad, while the hundred kilometre road linking Sofia and Plovdiv is to be rebuilt next year at an estimated cost of €25 million.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 12:49 AM   #358
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Great news, but what´s with the Struma motorway, noone talks about it.
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well, the rest of Europe except Bulgaria sees Turkey-Serbia connection as prior
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well, the rest of Europe except Bulgaria sees Turkey-Serbia connection as prior
What do you mean, don´t you know construction on marica motorway is going on?
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