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Old August 3rd, 2011, 05:58 PM   #3601
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Hi all, great to see some real progress with the motorway construction programme under the current gov't! Great progress! Although not a big contributor to the forum, I've been following this thread with great joy.

Strumatism, shiny crash-barriers and and smooth-as-a-babys-face asphalt aside, I find that although under-dimensioned, national, country and city roads in Bulgaria seem quite well maintained - and that expecially compared to Romania, the Baltic countries and Poland up until a few years ago. Although motorway construction might have been halted by lack of funds and corruption scandals a significant deal of work and money must have gone in to maintaining current roads throughout the 90's and 2000's.

Bulgaria now seem to be in a great position going forward with large infrastructure investments.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 11:05 AM   #3602
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oldest motorway in Bulgaria

Which is the oldest motorway in Bulgaria?

The plans for A1 Sofia - Plovdiv are the oldest, starting in 1962, but apparently construction didn't start until 1975 and according to German wikipedia, it opened in 1985. According to the Bulgarian wikipedia it opened "in the 1990's".

However, this would make A4 older, as it opened in 1980 near Varna.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 11:23 AM   #3603
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Old August 4th, 2011, 11:30 AM   #3604
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Which is the oldest motorway in Bulgaria?

The plans for A1 Sofia - Plovdiv are the oldest, starting in 1962, but apparently construction didn't start until 1975 and according to German wikipedia, it opened in 1985. According to the Bulgarian wikipedia it opened "in the 1990's".

However, this would make A4 older, as it opened in 1980 near Varna.
Bulgarian wikipedia says that the whole section from Sofia to Orizovo was under construction until the 90s, not that they have opened everything, the whole section, in those years . I guess google translate didn't represent correctly the phrase it's not perfectly written in Bulgarian either.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 11:53 AM   #3605
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So I think that settles it. Sofia - Ihtiman opened in 1978, the first motorway of Bulgaria.
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Old August 5th, 2011, 10:03 PM   #3606
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Another question about the Bulgarian road numbering system.

Is it correct that not all numbers of second class highways are used? For instance I can't localize II/10 and II/18, and maybe more (haven't gotten further than II/19 yet).

Is there a list of current numbered highways in Bulgaria? Bulgarian wikipedia doesn't seem to have an article about it.
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Old August 5th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #3607
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Here you are:
http://im.cablebg.net/clients/srepp-04.htm
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Old August 5th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #3608
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Thanks! So II/18 is the Sofia Ring Road, in addition to I/1, I/6 and I/8 which also seem to run across the Ring Road. The eastern section must be quadrupleplexed
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Old August 6th, 2011, 05:27 PM   #3609
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Are there plans for more bridges across the Danube between Romania and Bulgaria? I can think of several locations where a bridge would seem plausible;

* Vidin (under construction)
* Oryahovo
* Nikopol
* Svishtov
* Silistra

I think this section of the Danube is the most poorly bridged river of Europe, well, apart from the Volga perhaps.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #3610
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There have been plans about bridges at Oryahovo and Silistra for years but for now there are generally empty talks and good intentions... As far as I have heard, there are more obstacles from Romanian side about these bridges.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #3611
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There have been plans about bridges at Oryahovo and Silistra for years but for now there are generally empty talks and good intentions... As far as I have heard, there are more obstacles from Romanian side about these bridges.
why are you so sure the fault lies with the Romanian authorities, you can drill?
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Old August 6th, 2011, 08:08 PM   #3612
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I said I have heard (obviously from our media) that there are more problems coming from there. Which does not mean that there are no obstacles from here too. Both sides are actually doing nothing about that.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 08:13 PM   #3613
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I said I have heard (obviously from our media) that there are more problems coming from there. Which does not mean that there are no obstacles from here too. Both sides are actually doing nothing about that.
ok, unfortunately we lost both countries for such misunderstandings
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Old August 6th, 2011, 08:51 PM   #3614
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There have been plans about bridges at Oryahovo and Silistra for years but for now there are generally empty talks and good intentions... As far as I have heard, there are more obstacles from Romanian side about these bridges.
It seems there are recent plans for two hydro-energy projects. Bulgaria's Economy Ministry has announced that in September 2011, the governments of Bulgaria and Romania are going to sign a Memorandum about these projects. However I don't think our countries will find the money to do it. Maybe using some European funds, but previous experience with Danube Bridge II will probably made EU reluctant.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #3615
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However I don't think our countries will find the money to do it. Maybe using some European funds, but previous experience with Danube Bridge II will probably made EU reluctant.
What happened there?
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Old August 6th, 2011, 09:05 PM   #3616
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It seems there are recent plans for two hydro-energy projects. Bulgaria's Economy Ministry has announced that in September 2011, the governments of Bulgaria and Romania are going to sign a Memorandum about these projects. However I don't think our countries will find the money to do it. Maybe using some European funds, but previous experience with Danube Bridge II will probably made EU reluctant.
In fact that is an old project, probably from the 70s... Although I don't think that Bulgaria and Romania signed any final agreement, a friend of mine from Belene has told me that there were some preliminary construction works in the area since before 1989.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #3617
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What happened there?
revolution, we want to put a new bridge over the Danube
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Old August 6th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #3618
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What happened there?
The construction is way, way behind schedule. The EU was forced to extend two times so far the validity of ISPA grant (pre-accession funds). There is an article on Wikipedia written by me, but unfortunately only in Romanian. Maybe using Google Translate...
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Old August 7th, 2011, 04:04 AM   #3619
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For Bulgaria, which is the best map for IGO 8: TOPMAP Q1.2011, NAVTEQ 2011.Q1 or TeleAtlas 2010.Q4?
I'm interested in the map that have the best coverage and the latest roads and highways?
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Old August 7th, 2011, 10:09 PM   #3620
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sorry to ask possibly inappropriate question here, but can anyone give me link with photo report or tell me in a sentence or two, about the road between Sofia and Vidin? I am planing to drive it possibly this weekend, but on a chopper bike, so it would be nice if the road is more or less decent for a hardtail motorbike as this.

I presume that the road is decent enough and nature beautiful as well, but is there anything I should know more? I see on google maps that there are two possible roads from Sofia up there, one via Svoge and another via Berkovitza, which one would be nicer in terms of tarmac, and nature/traffic frequency?

How does this Svoge - Buchin Prohod - Godech - Kalotina road look like? Anyone went there recently? Cos I might cut it there without detouring to Sofia (I'm departuring/arriving in Nish, Serbia).

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Sofia-Kostinbrod-/Godech/-Berkovitsa-Montana
or the Petrohan passage or simply II-81 is quite in bad state.

The shortcut you are planning to take and maybe a few small stretches between Montana and Vidin may be a bit deteriorated also.

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It seems there are recent plans for two hydro-energy projects. Bulgaria's Economy Ministry has announced that in September 2011, the governments of Bulgaria and Romania are going to sign a Memorandum about these projects. However I don't think our countries will find the money to do it. Maybe using some European funds, but previous experience with Danube Bridge II will probably made EU reluctant.
Those projects won't happen. The one near Silistra has some real issues with soils and underground waters and a strong opposition in the city. You can ask for details in Silistra's thread.

And about the one near Nikopol I've heard that some parts of the city would be flooded if the project happens so it's highly doubtful as well.
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