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Old November 27th, 2011, 10:32 AM   #3921
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Will there be a motorway on the Romanian side?
No, there are no plans for the near future and this is unfortunate. I really don't understand why. The distance is not so long. This situation is maybe similar with yours regarding a motorway from Sofia towards Serbian border. You are not hurrying either to build one.
But there is a very good 2+2 road between Bucharest and Bulgarian border near Ruse. Speaking of measuring p..ises, I could ask you if there is a 2+2 road on the Bulgarian side . But I won't .

Seriously now, I can't simply understand why Romania isn't interested to build a motorway towards an EU neighbour.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 11:19 AM   #3922
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Actually, what they should do is expand the current expressway by-passing Adunatii Copaceni in both directions: Bucharest and Giurgiu and thus turn the whole connection into a fulll expressway. There is an important Bulgarian and Romanian truck traffic and it's pretty annoting for the hard traffic to go through towns and villages.

BTW: this reminds me - I uploaded a vid of the express by-pass made with my phone a couple of months ago. At the end, modernisation works can be seen U/C:


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Old November 27th, 2011, 11:24 AM   #3923
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As I said, the priority of the government is to build such 2+2 expressways to the Romanian border, not only from A2 Hemus from Veliko Tarnovo to Ruse, but also to the Vidin-Calafat bridge (where on the other side I don't think there will be something similar soon).
And speaking about measuring p...ses - the 2+2 road on the Romanian side is with roundabouts and intersections at same level (p.s. and as I see from Le Clerk's vid with no center-divide at some places), the one planned to be build on Bulgarian soil to the border will be with multilevel intersections without interference of traffic with left turns etc.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 11:31 AM   #3924
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I think both countries are full of great plans currently. Romania also has plans for motorways both to Calafat and Giurgiu and in the meanwhile chose to modernize such links. In any case, I think the priorities for both countries in terms of motorways are different from these connections, and I think these priorities are warranted because they are looking to connect with the west mainly, which Romania is doing through Hungary and Bulgaria through Serbia.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 11:35 AM   #3925
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I don't think connecting to Serbia is bigger priority than connecting to Romania. The only reason it will happen sooner is because it's easier - only some 50 km to build, instead of the hundreds missing in northern Bulgaria...
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Old November 27th, 2011, 11:39 AM   #3926
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And speaking about measuring p...ses - the 2+2 road on the Romanian side is with roundabouts and intersections at same level (p.s. and as I see from Le Clerk's vid with no center-divide at some places), the one planned to be build on Bulgarian soil to the border will be with multilevel intersections without interference of traffic with left turns etc.
Yeah, the roundabout seems to be the latest fetish of Romanian Company for Roads & Motorways (CNADNR). They are acting like they discovered the wheel. OK, roundabouts are good, but not anywhere. We even have motorways under traffic (Sibiu) or under construction (Lugoj) ending in a roundabout.
Hopefully, both roundabouts will be demolished soon: Sibiu probably next year, by Astaldi, the contractor which is building right now a stretch of Orăştie-Sibiu motorway, and Lugoj... Well, if Romania will start construction of the southern branch of Pan-European Corridor IV towards Danube Bridge 2.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 12:16 PM   #3927
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I don't think connecting to Serbia is bigger priority than connecting to Romania. The only reason it will happen sooner is because it's easier - only some 50 km to build, instead of the hundreds missing in northern Bulgaria...
Yes, the Serbian connection is currently more important than the Romanian connection. That's why is being built.

And it's normal so because its Bulgaria's shortest and fastest connection to western Europe.

BTW: the whole road from Bucharest to Giurgiu courtesy to my patiance to upload the vid.

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Old November 27th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #3928
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It's the shortest and fastest if you don't take into account border control, which sometimes may take up to 4 or 5 hours (both at the Bulgarian-Serbian border and after that in the Serbian-Hungarian border). As Serbia is not in EU, connecting to Western Europe via Romania, especially after entering into Schengen would be better, and may proove to be faster... Especially after Romania opens the Lugoj-Timisoara-Arad-hungarian border motorway.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 01:23 PM   #3929
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I am really curious if there will be any continental traffic shift after the completion of the Vidin-Calafat bridge, i.e. if Turkey-EU traffic will shift partially to this new open route to western Europe. Depending on the traffic, and if the traffic will see a serious shift, then both BG and RO will start on building motorways for this route.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #3930
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The E-80 motorway (on the Serbian side) towards Bulgaria will be finished in mid or late 2013, just to point that out.
We really hope so.

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What is not current can come in the future. It's good to reserve numbers for future corridors.
Lately, interest in corridor 8 is dropping down on both sides of the border.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #3931
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BTW: this reminds me - I uploaded a vid of the express by-pass made with my phone a couple of months ago. At the end, modernisation works can be seen U/C:


The beginning looks very good, but the rest is not that great, still no markings and so on.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 04:02 PM   #3932
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Yes, and no shiny crash barriers either.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 12:16 PM   #3933
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BTW: the whole road from Bucharest to Giurgiu courtesy to my patiance to upload the vid.

Is this road is under reconstruction, because the first few kilometers looks astonishing but the rest seems like there are some current roadworks?
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Yes, the road is under modernization works currently.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 06:32 PM   #3935
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BTW: this reminds me - I uploaded a vid of the express by-pass made with my phone a couple of months ago. At the end, modernisation works can be seen U/C:

At 4:23, a Queen song has started and you changed the station!??!?!?
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At 4:23, a Queen song has started and you changed the station!??!?!?
yeah, I know. The radio signal was getting poor.
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Some new picture of the newly built intersection at the current end of A1 Trakiya near Stara Zagora and the works on LOT2 from there to Nova Zagora. With shiny crash-barriers, of course!

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26 November 2011


Part 1:





Както виждате, оправили са първата табела над платното, на която преди погрешно пишеше и "Стара Загора".














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And the weekly update from the building of Danube bridge 2 Vidin-Calafat:

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28.11.2011, www.danubebridge2.com.

Мост/Bridge:


Подготвителни дейности за монтаж на сегмент от връхната конструкция на моста при стълб РВ9
Preparation for the assembly of a segment of the bridge superstructure at PB9


Направа на етап от пътната плоча при стълб РВ10
Execution of a stage of the deck at PB10


Бетониране на тротоарния блок от връхната конструкция на моста в неплавателния участък
Concreting of the sidewalk of the bridge superstructure in the non-navigable channel of the river

Инфраструктура/Infrastructure:


Асфалтиране на пътния надлез при пътен възел при входа на Видин
Laying asphalt pavement on road junction Vidin Entrance


Подготовка за асфалтиране на пътен надлез Кула
Preparation for laying asphalt on road overpass Kula


Подготовка за асфалтиране на пътен надлез Кула
Preparation for laying asphalt on road overpass Kula
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