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Old June 12th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #4421
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Why "groov"?

The second pronunciation is weird, isn't it?
Yes it is. The first speaker is 100% a bulgarian old lady. The second speaker is either a foreigner learning bulgarian or a macedonian.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #4422
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Some pictures of the section of the Sofia Ring Road, opening tomorow:

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Old June 12th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #4423
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Old June 12th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #4424
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Now the crashbarriers of this section are impressed. you would think they are done the way on porpuse, to represent italian elegance, like you see on [Iitalian style cafes. the asphalt is very dark also, great work, I think I must see this road.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #4425
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The last sign still has Cyrillic-only. I thought they changed the "standards" to bilingual.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #4426
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@Chilio and fnm: great pics The motorway looks nice!

@Radi: what do you think about this motorway?

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The last sign still has Cyrillic-only. I thought they changed the "standards" to bilingual.
They should have changed to bilingual signs... most of the foreigners that will drive in Bulgaria won't know what it's written there.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 10:52 PM   #4427
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Actually parts of the sign are bilingual (the exits to left and right from the roundabout), and only the straight direction is only in cyrillic. But those who come from that side and go to this direction will not be going through the roundabout, but on the transit viaduct above it. And the new signs before the main road going to the viaduct and the local split are bilingual.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #4428
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bogdymol, you first have to cmment this road, then I wil comment the romanian motorway.

By the way. My arents reported that there is no damage on the Ljulin and Struma motorway and that even the old Struma motorway is stil as smooth as it ever was, bsically as smooth as one year after opening.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #4429
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Old June 13th, 2012, 12:23 AM   #4430
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Actually parts of the sign are bilingual (the exits to left and right from the roundabout), and only the straight direction is only in cyrillic. But those who come from that side and go to this direction will not be going through the roundabout, but on the transit viaduct above it. And the new signs before the main road going to the viaduct and the local split are bilingual.
Still, they're right. It should have been bi-lingual. Anyway, looks great. So much improvement than what it was just a couple of years ago!
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Old June 13th, 2012, 12:54 AM   #4431
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the romanina motorway looks very good and very modern. the shiny crahsbarriers make it look very clean. the asphalt and markings look great aswell. the motorway is very good, but IMO it is not as per with the struma motorway and nationalroad I1 Dupnica - Dolna Dykania, which when they were new had a very unique look at them and do that even now. the asphalt of those roads looks somehow untouched, it looks like heavy duty sphalt. the romanian mtorway shown on that video can compare with the Ljulin motorway.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 10:10 AM   #4432
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Now the crashbarriers of this section are impressed. you would think they are done the way on porpuse, to represent italian elegance, like you see on [Iitalian style cafes. the asphalt is very dark also, great work, I think I must see this road.
Fortunatelly, the new crashbarriers not only represent italian elegance, but also show the new bulgarian standards in that aspect. Unfortunately, the new type of guard rails wasn't used at the new parts of Trakia motorway, except for the bridges ( http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2791/imag0086qv.jpg / http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5717/imag0443qx.jpg )
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Old June 13th, 2012, 10:48 AM   #4433
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Some 16 pictures from a helicopter of the South part of Sofia Ring Road, including some of the older part too: http://www.dnevnik.bg/photos/2012/06...?pic=1#picture
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Old June 13th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #4434
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@Radi: what do you think about this motorway?
This video clearly shows why Bulgarian motorways are the cheapest in Europe. Guess why?!
BTW, what is the price for km. of Arad bypass?
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Old June 13th, 2012, 11:41 AM   #4435
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update of the progress on LOT2 of A1 Trakiya, due to open for traffic on july 1st:

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I want to see the other side of that overhead signage at photo #3
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This video clearly shows why Bulgarian motorways are the cheapest in Europe. Guess why?!
BTW, what is the price for km. of Arad bypass?
141,5 M € / 12,25 km = 11,55 M € / km

This price includes all the costs, except expropriations (I think). It's quite expensive because on 12 km we have 4 interchanges, a 150-m main span bridge over Mures river, 2 railway overpasses, lightning poles every 30 m and a lot of electronics (CCTV system, 6 electronic signs with variable messages, traffic counters at every interchange etc.).

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No, you don't... you'll get disappointed They are of the same type as already seen, as they are standartized in the projects of the three LOTs of A1.
By the way, I'm sure you will also disapprove the signage on the Sofia Ring Road, as I was very disappointed yesterday too - at least the ones overhead the local lanes on both sides are too small and with tiny letters, and of course not enough data as road numbers etc.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 01:13 PM   #4439
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This video clearly shows why Bulgarian motorways are the cheapest in Europe. Guess why?!
BTW, what is the price for km. of Arad bypass?
Which does not mean they are not good. I don#t like the critizism of Bulgarian motorways and roads in general. why are you doing it, while you may be right about minor things like signs, the roads built in the alst years have prooven very stable. Look at them, the E- 80 road, The struma motorway, the E- 79 til dupnica, all these new roads are stil very good.

if you think bulgarian raods are bad I advice you go to Serbia and look at the road dimitrovgrad - Nis.It is doen at the same time and section a bit later than above mentioned roads. Check the condition of it and look if there are holes and waves, you will find them. However you will not find them on the new bulgarian roads. So stop talking bad about them.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 03:33 PM   #4440
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No one said that BG motorways are bad or with low quality. They are cheap because They didn't have no cctv, no lightning, no electronic signs and many other. It's not fatal for shure but is definitely difference
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