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Old September 25th, 2007, 09:32 PM   #461
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I've read among today's news that the newcomer EU members(both 2004 and 2007)having problems applying for EU sources. CZ and HU is applying for approx 60% what is possible. For cohesion purposes,the order is similar,but the percentages are lower than 50% everywhere.
I suggest looking for similar articles related to BG,that might give a clue where the money is.

Sorry,in hungarian:
http://index.hu/gazdasag/magyar/euforr070924/

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Old September 25th, 2007, 10:30 PM   #462
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Estonia is even allowed to use money meant for 2004-2006
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Old September 26th, 2007, 09:00 AM   #463
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Here's a sharpened crashbarrier for you. I advise wearing sunglasses!


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Old September 26th, 2007, 11:56 AM   #464
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@radi:

sorry, to say this, but the Crash barrier looks poor and dangerous (made with space between the parts)
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Old September 27th, 2007, 01:52 AM   #465
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How long does your countries motorway asphalt keep being black?

I am just wondering how long the asphalt of other motorways keeps very black and smooth as here in bulgaria on the national road E-79 which isn´t 4 lamed the asphalt keeps being black and smooth and looking new for 6 years now, I am sure it will keep being like that for another four years at least. How is it in your counries?
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Old September 27th, 2007, 02:05 AM   #466
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Denpends on the amout of traffic, in the Netherlands no more than 1-2 years.
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A2, Spring 2006:


Today:
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Old September 27th, 2007, 02:54 AM   #467
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In Toronto, like most other places in North America as far as I know, those sections of motorway that are actually paved with black asphalt don't stay so for long at all, because the pavement depth isn't very large (as in most of North America, and unlike Europe), but also and more importantly because the traffic on our urban highways is incomparably larger than on any road in Bulgaria. Also, the harsh winters in Toronto do their thing on the roads.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #468
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In Toronto, like most other places in North America as far as I know, those sections of motorway that are actually paved with black asphalt don't stay so for long at all, because the pavement depth isn't very large (as in most of North America, and unlike Europe), but also and more importantly because the traffic on our urban highways is incomparably larger than on any road in Bulgaria. Also, the harsh winters in Toronto do their thing on the roads.
Yep, also, in the South, the combination of high humidity and lots of sunshine year-round take a heavy toll on the asphalt roads, graying them really quickly. It's literally impossible, regardless of the quality of pavement, for them to stay black much longer than 6 months.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 07:44 AM   #469
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In Toronto, like most other places in North America as far as I know, those sections of motorway that are actually paved with black asphalt don't stay so for long at all, because the pavement depth isn't very large (as in most of North America, and unlike Europe), but also and more importantly because the traffic on our urban highways is incomparably larger than on any road in Bulgaria. Also, the harsh winters in Toronto do their thing on the roads.
Does it have anything to do with thickness?
Because here they lay it on very thick (last year a water pipe on Shariati street bursted and you could see it was almost a metre of thickness) but in a few years it becomes grey.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 08:00 AM   #470
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In my area, the highway just looks like cracked concrete.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 08:04 AM   #471
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and here I tell you, the asphalt stays altough heavy tracktraffic always the same for 6 years, it doesn´t even have different cover where the tires go over it.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 08:40 AM   #472
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and here I tell you, the asphalt stays altough heavy tracktraffic always the same for 6 years,
Pictures of Struma tell different story.
There's no asphalt type, that would stayed for a long time in original color. Most types usually turn dark grey in few months.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 12:26 PM   #473
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Pictures of Struma tell different story.
There's no asphalt type, that would stayed for a long time in original color. Most types usually turn dark grey in few months.
what different story does it tell you fool, you always critize Bulgarian roads, as if your shit is best man, can´t we have good roads or what, just because you are longer in EU means you have way better new motorways then we do, you wouldn´t even manage to build motorways which are build 30 m above the environmental level for a distance of 25 km. the asphalt looks the same as when it was oepned, the Struma motorway asphalt just isn´t so black the E79 asphalt here in blagoevgrad is darker.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 06:45 PM   #474
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Old September 27th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #475
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Does it have anything to do with thickness?
Because here they lay it on very thick (last year a water pipe on Shariati street bursted and you could see it was almost a metre of thickness) but in a few years it becomes grey.
A bit off-topic for this thread, but could you please show us pictures of Iranian roads and motorways, even city avenues in Tehran if it isn't too much to ask? I find it to be a very fascinating country and we have so few pictures !

Here is the Iranian thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=426574
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Old September 27th, 2007, 07:22 PM   #476
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what different story does it tell you fool,
New Struma:

Struma after some time:

Seems, that asphalt got brighter. How strange ...

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you always critize Bulgarian roads
No I don't, I criticize your shameful approach to presenting Bulgaria roads.

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, as if your shit is best man, can´t we have good roads or what, just because you are longer in EU means you have way better new motorways then we do,
Actually, since we are in EU, maybe 60 km of motorways were built, which is not a lot. They were financed by the state, only very small part by EU.

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you wouldn´t even manage to build motorways which are build 30 m above the environmental level for a distance of 25 km.
Why not?

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the asphalt looks the same as when it was oepned, the Struma motorway asphalt just isn´t so black the E79 asphalt here in blagoevgrad is darker.
See above pictures for the contrary.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 07:35 PM   #477
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build motorways which are build 30 m above the environmental level for a distance of 25 km.
Why do you guys build a 25km long viaduct?(30m is a 10 floor commieblock..)
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Old September 27th, 2007, 08:32 PM   #478
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Denpends on the amout of traffic, in the Netherlands no more than 1-2 years.
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A bit of topic, I know, but; How come the yellow signage? I thought all signs in the Netherlands where blue no matter what
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Old September 27th, 2007, 08:36 PM   #479
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Keber, if you look on the pics this summer, you wont see any difference in the color of asphalt man and it will stay like that for sure, the color of this asphalt is just dark grey.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 10:00 PM   #480
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Exactly as at other asphalted motorways around Europe.
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