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Old September 27th, 2007, 10:14 PM   #481
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http://dnevnik.bg/lib/showimg.php?fi...490_380857.jpg

Btw, just look at this shiny awesome bulgarian motorway, this again shows how good they construct their new motorways.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 12:11 AM   #482
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http://dnevnik.bg/lib/showimg.php?fi...490_380857.jpg

Btw, just look at this shiny awesome bulgarian motorway, this again shows how good they construct their new motorways.
oh, but why is your grass so yellow? look at this ******* green shiny slovenian grass!

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Old September 28th, 2007, 12:22 AM   #483
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oh, but why is your grass so yellow? look at this ******* green shiny slovenian grass!

you forgot "awesome"!
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Old September 28th, 2007, 12:38 AM   #484
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oh, but why is your grass so yellow? look at this ******* green shiny slovenian grass!

because it doesn´t rain too often in bulgaria and the summers are extremly hot and extremly dry.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 12:59 AM   #485
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oh, but why is your grass so yellow? look at this ******* green shiny slovenian grass!

Lol. But you're right, you've noticed it too! But I think it's so green only between Ljubljana and Zagreb. Magic grass, hehe.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:29 AM   #486
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Does it have anything to do with thickness?
Because here they lay it on very thick (last year a water pipe on Shariati street bursted and you could see it was almost a metre of thickness) but in a few years it becomes grey.
You might be right, I was actually implicitly referring to the general condition of the roads (which crack more readily in North America) than just the colour of the asphalt. Any asphalt will of course turn gray eventually, but I think a thicker pavement does preserve itself at least a little better in all aspects
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:32 AM   #487
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and here I tell you, the asphalt stays altough heavy tracktraffic always the same for 6 years, it doesn´t even have different cover where the tires go over it.
I don't know if you were referring to my post, but if yes, then even though I'm not arguing with the amount of traffic on the Struma (I don't know much about it), but you cannot even remotely compare the amount of traffic on the Struma with the traffic on Toronto area highways (where I live), and almost any highway in a major North American city. In fact, I don't think too many motorways in all of Europe can compare. Combined with the harsh weather, the asphalt cannot stay black for very long.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 12:32 PM   #488
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I am not refering to the Struma motorway but to this Blagoevgrad 4 lamed part of the E-79 which was asphalted 6 years ago.



and just look at the color of it. Btw, so does the rest of the asphalt Kulata - dupnica look, this color and smoothness, it´s smoother than for example new Hungarian motorways, the asphalt Dupnica - Dolna dykania (where the struma motorway starts) is not as dark, it´s a bit mroe grey but it is even smoother altough 6 years old, the crashbarriers are still extremly shiny and reflect everything altough they are 6 years old, YES, that´s how it is.

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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:37 PM   #489
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1. I don't see anything shiny in above picture.

2. Color of above asphalt is normal for 6 year old motorway pavement. Even elsewhere in Europe.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:45 PM   #490
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1. I don't see anything shiny in above picture.

2. Color of above asphalt is normal for 6 year old motorway pavement. Even elsewhere in Europe.
Yes, these crashbarriers aren´shiny, I told you that the 6 year old crashbarriers of the route Dupnica - dolna Dykania are shiny. This is a pic of the route Blagoevgrad Dupnica which was constructed by italian companies.

Keber, don´t make me laugh man, as if 6 years old asphalt would look like that in Slovenia, but if it doesn´t help go and look in googleearth, there you can see how black i aktually is, I don´t know if you at all noticed it or not, the asphalt on the pic above is darker than the Struma motorway asphalt, and you say it´s normal, you are just ridiculous.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:51 PM   #491
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Here´s the 6 years old expressway stretch near Dupnica and look, it is shiny and notice the asphalt is brighter because it´s the Struma motorway asphalt but it still looks and is ******* smooth.
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And JUST that you know, a secondclass twolamed road to the mountains to Bansko ski resort is being reconstructed and they add 25 CM THICK ASPAHLT. so I don´t even wanna imagine how thick the asphalt on motorways is.
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Can you guys please stop it? You're both pissing me off!
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Old September 28th, 2007, 08:27 PM   #494
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A bit of topic, I know, but; How come the yellow signage? I thought all signs in the Netherlands where blue no matter what
Those are temporary signs, allways used near construction sites. The A2 will have 2x4 lanes in 2010-11 there. This stretch though is already widened in 2006 because it was the biggest bottleneck in the route, you can see the extra space for lanes on both sides of the road.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 08:57 PM   #495
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In Estonia asphalt stays black until the first winter when stubbed tyres do their "job".
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Old September 28th, 2007, 09:17 PM   #496
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Guys!!
This is most stupid thread I've ever seen.
What the f....k means question in title???
Who care how black motorway is? Do we build them to be black or to be efficient???
And again pointless discussion how fantastic Struma Motorway is.

Can some clever able person close this thread?? It just occupy space on server which can be use in better way.
For example to discuss where grass is greaner or sky more blue

This forum is going down
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Old September 29th, 2007, 12:05 AM   #497
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I get your point, but I can tell you from personal experience that usually blacker asphalt = smoother ride (at least here in Europe). I think roads should also be smooth, not only functional, it helps save money on car maintenance.

Of course, there are exceptions to this rule as well - I have seen roads with black asphalt but quite bumpy in some places - some parts of Slovakia, for example.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 10:27 AM   #498
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Those are temporary signs, allways used near construction sites. The A2 will have 2x4 lanes in 2010-11 there. This stretch though is already widened in 2006 because it was the biggest bottleneck in the route, you can see the extra space for lanes on both sides of the road.
Thanks! The road was so clearly a good motorway, while the signs had exacly the colours we use on our regular highways, just got a bit confused
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Thanks! The road was so clearly a good motorway, while the signs had exacly the colours we use on our regular highways, just got a bit confused
As far as I know, the Netherlands always use blue for road signs, even on national roads. I like Norway's system better, but unfortunately from the map I can deduce that most Norwegian signs are yellow and not blue...
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I get your point, but I can tell you from personal experience that usually blacker asphalt = smoother ride (at least here in Europe). I think roads should also be smooth, not only functional, it helps save money on car maintenance.

Of course, there are exceptions to this rule as well - I have seen roads with black asphalt but quite bumpy in some places - some parts of Slovakia, for example.
Oh it´s quite true, man they fixed many tirdclass roads, some roads to small villages etc and they are bumpier than the 7 years old E-79 asphalt altough the asphalt on these roads is 6 months or so old, there is very old E-79 asphalt which even turned grey but isn´t bumpy and rough at all, it is smoother than many black asphalts and allows insame speeds. YES
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