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Old January 1st, 2013, 09:43 PM   #5041
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Is there traffic data available from Bulgarian motorways?
No. Our road agency does not publish traffic data.
We are gathering the data from articles here.

The result so far:
Trakia[A1]
-16 000 12.2010
-30 000 06.2008

Hemus[A2]
-20-25 000 11.2012 Sofia Ring Road - Yana
-12 000 12.2010 Yablanitsa - Shumen
-10 000 10.2008 Yablanitsa - Shumen
-13 000 06.2008 Yablanitsa - Levski
-7-9 000 06.2008 Levski - Shumen

Struma[A3]
-21-22 000 12.2010
-22-25 000 06.2008

Maritsa[A4]
-15-16 000 summer 06.2008
-5-6 000 winter 06.2008

Люлин[A6]
-15-16 000 05.2011 (both carrigeways?)
-30 000 06.2009

Rila[A7] (an extravagant project)
-1 000 06.2008 Gotse Delchev - Dospat - Borino - Devin - Smolyan - Madan - Kardzhali - GR

II-55 Veliko Tarnovo - Gurkovo
-23 829 05.2010


A map from 2005 with 2010 traffic prediction:

Environment assesment prediction from 2003 for Sofia - Pernik route is 60 000 AADT by 2020.

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Old January 2nd, 2013, 12:27 PM   #5042
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Just a note - these data are qestionable. But it's nice that PhgirgataZFs1694 put the effort to collect the articles
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 01:43 PM   #5043
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Not much data available because the Road Agency and local authorities use quite archaic ways of collecting it:



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Old January 2nd, 2013, 02:09 PM   #5044
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It was the same way of doing it at the Romanian traffic census...
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 02:48 PM   #5045
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Manual counting is only useful if you only want to know traffic in certain periods. The most reliable form of counting is of course a permanent counter that counts 365 days per year. The next best thing is a temporary air pressure traffic counter in a regular traffic period during 1 or 2 weeks. I've done that many times.
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 08:28 PM   #5046
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Hopefully we'll start getting some more accurate data soon, there's been news in the Bulgarian media about a project co-funded by the EU, which involves replacing some of the manual counting stations with automatic ones.
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 10:41 PM   #5047
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Pics from Struma motorway[A3] Dolna Dikanya - Dupnitsa(Dupnica on map):

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Old January 2nd, 2013, 10:42 PM   #5048
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 10:43 PM   #5049
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 10:44 PM   #5050
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Снимките са южно от виадукта:





На ССП на км.321+330 към края на лота:

Край.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 01:51 AM   #5051
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We have data from a secure source(4MB,EN) - environment decision on lot 3 of Struma motorway[A3] Blagoevgrad - Sandanski 64km including 13km tunnel about future AADT:

2020:
3.1Blagoevgrad - Krupnik(2.5km tunnel) 11 057
3.3Kresna - Sandanski 11 750

2030:
3.1Blagoevgrad - Krupnik(2.5km tunnel) 14 133
3.2Krupnik - Kresna(13km tunnel) 15 597
3.3Kresna - Sandanski 13 717

2040:
3.1Blagoevgrad - Krupnik(2.5km tunnel) 15 512
3.2Krupnik - Kresna (13km tunnel) 17 211
3.3Kresna - Sandanski 15 078

Tunnel would be 2x2.

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Old January 6th, 2013, 02:19 AM   #5052
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Something is wrong in those numbers.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #5053
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Something is wrong in those numbers.
Why do you think so?
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Old January 6th, 2013, 03:03 PM   #5054
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Lot 2020
3.1 11,057
3.2
3.3 11,750

Lot 2030
3.1 14,133
3.2 15,597
3.3 13,717

Lot 2040
3.1 15,512
3.2 17,211
3.3 15,078

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/47/Vj/1EiuGfLW/bg-aadt.jpg
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Old January 6th, 2013, 03:11 PM   #5055
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It is also strange that they foresee just about 30% increase in traffic for the next 27 years to a mere 15k-17k AADT.

On basis of those predictions I wouldn't build a motorway yet.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 05:22 PM   #5056
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Sorry. Stupid copy-paste mistake.
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The presented below table shows the traffic estimate in both directions as mean annual daily traffic per 24 hours, by sections of the new motorway, for the period 2020 – 2040:
This phrase confuses me. In Bulgarian even more. I am still not 100% sure they do mean direction Sofia + direction Greece = 11 000 AADT by this given the figure is quite low for a motorway indeed.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #5057
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According to Phirgata's map, there are no plans for completing Hemus in following 10 years???
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Old January 6th, 2013, 06:58 PM   #5058
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According to Phirgata's map, there are no plans for completing Hemus in following 10 years???
Yes. The map shows only projects that are supposed to start till 2014.

Struma[A3] Blagoevgrad - Sandanski and Hemus[A2] motorways are planned to be built between 2014 - 2021.
It's still uncertain whether Hemus[A2] will be built till Veliko Tarnovo or till Shumen. There's also a possibility that it might be built in some sections as an expressway(Veliko Tarnovo - Varna).
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It is also strange that they foresee just about 30% increase in traffic for the next 27 years to a mere 15k-17k AADT.

On basis of those predictions I wouldn't build a motorway yet.
It is not cetain that it will be a higher grooth of traffic passing than %, because in the future years oil might get limited and therefore very expensive, this will stop people from buying cars and driving as much ae they do now. I also doubt that car manufractures will finally completely swith to alternative sources of energy, since the development of that, especially by the european car manufractures is incredibly slow. It is really a shame nothing happens about it altough it is high time and cars with alternative energy were promised for the year 2000.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 10:00 PM   #5060
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Yes. The map shows only projects that are supposed to start till 2014.

Struma[A3] Blagoevgrad - Sandanski and Hemus[A2] motorways are planned to be built between 2014 - 2021.
It's still uncertain whether Hemus[A2] will be built till Veliko Tarnovo or till Shumen. There's also a possibility that it might be built in some sections as an expressway(Veliko Tarnovo - Varna).
So from the old priority (national motorway ring- Trakija, Hemus and Crno more), only Trakija will be completed in few months, and Hemus and CM will be put on long hold.
Btw, Varna-Sumen is motorway or expressway?
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