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Old November 12th, 2007, 10:00 PM   #641
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150 on a one lane road is just nuts, you will be killed in a crash with another car. Combined speed is over 240km/h then.

Do you have pictures of the Sofia ringroad?
No, I don´t, the ringroad is just being expanded to a ringroad motorway, well without emergency lanes but who cares, it´s aktually closed and traffic has to go through the town
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Old November 12th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #642
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They drive 200 km and mroe on the E79 which you know isn´t a motorway on many sections still, crash usually don´happen because of hgih speed in bulgaria but because of mistakes of the drivers. unfortunately we have a lot of accidents in Bulgaria.
youtube has plenty of nasty accidents in Bulgaria. Mind you eastern europe is pretty well represented generally in that category.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 10:32 PM   #643
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youtube has plenty of nasty accidents in Bulgaria. Mind you eastern europe is pretty well represented generally in that category.
Yeah too bad, it looks like a lot of people there aren't mature enough to handle high-speed roads.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:30 PM   #644
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They drive 200 km and mroe on the E79 which you know isn´t a motorway on many sections still, crash usually don´happen because of hgih speed in bulgaria but because of mistakes of the drivers. unfortunately we have a lot of accidents in Bulgaria.
i wanted to visit Bulgaria, but after this i'll think well about it. maybe a train or something. btw, what is high speeding if not a driver's mistake?
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:32 PM   #645
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Yeah too bad, it looks like a lot of people there aren't mature enough to handle high-speed roads.
The alcoholism rate could also be a major factor in these accidents.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:37 PM   #646
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i wanted to visit Bulgaria, but after this i'll think well about it. maybe a train or something. btw, what is high speeding if not a driver's mistake?
Well not everyone drives 100 on the twolaned national roads but there are some, nothing will happen man, there´s little traffic on our nationalroads, you saw how it is on the Struma motorway, it´s like that everywhere, go there and see the roads man, they are worth seeing. Ofcourse they drive 100 only on very long straight sections not on curvy sections without good sight and so on, noone is so ill.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:45 PM   #647
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100 is not problem, but you've mentioned 150 or 200, and i really don't want even meet something like this. it's just too hard for me and i haven't got used to it.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:58 PM   #648
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100 is not problem, but you've mentioned 150 or 200, and i really don't want even meet something like this. it's just too hard for me and i haven't got used to it.
welll, I am sure even in Croatia village people drive very fast if they get fast cars like Porsches, fast Mercedes and so on, even not on the motorways, the village people want show their "driving skills" to the girls they have inside their car, so they risk the life of them and also of their girlfriends by driving that fast.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 12:55 AM   #649
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this is very messy indeed

edit: a bit too graphic. Hope I did'nt offend

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Old November 13th, 2007, 12:58 AM   #650
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Trafficjam on the awesome Struma motorway



The metal of the crashbarriers looks more like some stylish metal for stairsbalustrade than for example croatian or german crashbarriers metal, and I mean it serious, the working quality there just looks unnaturally, they worked as if they are building a house, not a motorway where noone cares about the details on the markings and crashbarriers. the 90 sign has been replaced by 120 km sign

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Old November 13th, 2007, 01:14 AM   #651
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Wow Kaas, that is a really impressive smash indeed... Did I see right and see that there was a body still in the road there?! How disgusting...

Also Radi - those crash barriers look no different to the crash barriers that Britain has on its A roads let alone on it's M roads.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #652
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welll, I am sure even in Croatia village people drive very fast if they get fast cars like Porsches, fast Mercedes and so on, even not on the motorways, the village people want show their "driving skills" to the girls they have inside their car, so they risk the life of them and also of their girlfriends by driving that fast.
well, i have never seen anybody with more then 130 at normal roads. and i don't want to. now you really scared me of driving.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:49 AM   #653
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That was pretty insane crash. IMO it was in higher speed than 130. Maybe they should show such pictures to those who are driving on highways like it's a runway.
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That video definitely shows why concrete crashbarriers are the standard nowadays.
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well, i have never seen anybody with more then 130 at normal roads. and i don't want to. now you really scared me of driving.
There's actually a normal national road in Luxembourg with speed limit 160.

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Old November 13th, 2007, 06:34 AM   #656
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That video definitely shows why concrete crashbarriers are the standard nowadays.
The standard, in certain parts of the world. I note that the UK still uses metal crash barriers on the whole.

There are pros and cons to both metal barriers and concrete barriers and this has been deliberated to death in many different threads.
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The standard, in certain parts of the world. I note that the UK still uses metal crash barriers on the whole.

There are pros and cons to both metal barriers and concrete barriers and this has been deliberated to death in many different threads.
I'm aware of that. Just making a point.
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That's why Italian autostrada middle metal barriers are much much stronger than let say Bulgarian one.
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The metal of the crashbarriers looks more like some stylish metal for stairsbalustrade than for example croatian or german crashbarriers metal, and I mean it serious, the working quality there just looks unnaturally, they worked as if they are building a house, not a motorway where noone cares about the details on the markings and crashbarriers.

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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:12 PM   #660
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That's why Italian autostrada middle metal barriers are much much stronger than let say Bulgarian one.
don´t make me laugh man, these are old crashbarriers, do you think anyone could crash through the struma motorway crashbarriers. Btw, friday i´m going to Sofia finally, I can aktually see the awesome roads again, I am really looking forword to it.
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