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Old November 12th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #6821
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The vignette does not apply to roads under the charge of local municipalities.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 08:14 PM   #6822
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It will be very difficult if not impossible to drive around Bulgaria only on municipal roads. Which means that probably every vehicle owner in Bulgaria needs an annual vignette.

Is there also another kind of tax in Bulgaria? Like a road tax separate from the vignette, or a special vehicle registration tax?
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Old November 13th, 2015, 07:08 AM   #6823
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There's a property tax for owning the vehicle. The renenues are collected and used by the municipalities, not the central government.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 01:18 PM   #6824
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A4 Maritsa seems finally be open
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Old November 16th, 2015, 06:47 AM   #6825
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You only got it! Twenty days as already open
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Old November 16th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #6826
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A4 Maritsa seems finally be open
What do you mean with "seems finally be open" ?

It is since end of October 2015 openend.

Just in Google Maps still not updated
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Old November 17th, 2015, 06:18 AM   #6827
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Yep. Look openstreetmap. Google for instance hasn't put the G3011 in China for 5 months there is rather one. I guess the only advantages of google are itself the Streetview and the comfort of usage. But its recentism reminds me much of one of another offsprings of Google wikipedia
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Old November 17th, 2015, 01:22 PM   #6828
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Sofia Northern Bypass


The construction started in February and the progress seems to be quite good. Pics by babkata:
@Botevgradsko shose blvd


@Chepinsko shose






@Iskar river








@East tangent I/C







More: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...03704&page=175
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Old November 18th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #6829
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Sofia Northern Bypass
The construction started in February and the progress seems to be quite good.
IIRC the official one was late 2015. Is there any (un)official estimated opening date / updated contract deadline? Anything more specific than 2016...
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Old November 18th, 2015, 10:43 PM   #6830
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IIRC the official one was late 2015. Is there any (un)official estimated opening date / updated contract deadline? Anything more specific than 2016...
I would say realistically the whole thing could be opened in Spring 2016. Opening in 2015 would be crazy progress even though work is going on 24/7.
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Old November 19th, 2015, 02:12 AM   #6831
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There is euro money involved if it opens in _any_ way in 2015, perhaps a partial opening if they can manage it.
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Old November 19th, 2015, 06:48 PM   #6832
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IIRC the official one was late 2015. Is there any (un)official estimated opening date / updated contract deadline? Anything more specific than 2016...
When they say anything more specific, someone will post it here. Here´s the situation from drone's eye b/n the western arc of the ring road and Iliyantsi Blvd I/C:













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Old November 20th, 2015, 11:34 PM   #6833
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Is there also another kind of tax in Bulgaria? Like a road tax separate from the vignette, or a special vehicle registration tax?
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There's a property tax for owning the vehicle. The renenues are collected and used by the municipalities, not the central government.
It must be added that the property tax depends on the age of the car, the engine power, environmental friendliness, etc. It is interesting to note that the older cars have lower taxes. For example, the tax for a car with 110HP engine and age between 5-15 years is ~80EUR. If the same car is over 15 years old, the tax is ~50EUR.

I think for the purpose of comparison and added customer value we must also mention what you get for your money. The vignette is valid for ~20k km of motorways, I, II and III class roads(generally speaking orange and yellow roads in GM). The municipalities are responsible for the rest of the road network(another ~20k km of roads). So if you are a bulgarian, you generally need to pay both a a vignette and an ownership tax to access the ~40k road network. If you are a foreigner, you pay only a vignette and can use everything.

Because this is an international forum, lets mention the proposed prices for the other type of vignettes for cars:
weekly: 5 EUR -> 7.5 EUR
monthly: 12.5 EUR -> 15 EUR
yearly: 33.5 EUR -> 48.5 EUR
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Old November 21st, 2015, 02:20 AM   #6834
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Oh, i was never angry about paying for motorways. Especially in the east, where i know people are not so welathy. I am cheering everytime the motorways get longer, but they need to be ststained also.

I don't think, people hate taxes in general, if they understand for what purpose they pay and if politicians spend it wisely. But usually neither the first nor the second is true

All in all its a big number of influences which you need to take in account to get a fair comparison. But if we just agree that we don't reach this ideal, its okay to bring several aspects in mind of the others. Every single argumentation is uncomplete. If it is no fight who is the best, most intelligent, best knowing of local sitaution etc... if its not about the virtual ***** lenght, if we leave this aside its very educating to follow this discussion
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Old November 21st, 2015, 11:29 AM   #6835
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Sofia Ring Road, ground works at the Kakach river - Northern Bypass segment:
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This segment includes the important interchange with the Norhern Bypass, along with 2 other interchanges.

And the (almost) completed A6-Kakach river segment:
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Old November 26th, 2015, 12:09 AM   #6836
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Interesting, Google Maps is so slow concerning updating the new part of the A4 highway.
I also gave 2-3 feedbacks to Google Maps, 1-2 weeks ago, but there is still nothing.

I also gave 1-2 Updates for roads in Germany and Austria. There it had been updated after 3-5 days.


Hmm, lets wait when it will be updated in Bulgaria.
Even Road Updates in Romania get faster as in Bulgaria :/
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Old November 26th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #6837
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Interesting, Google Maps is so slow concerning updating the new part of the A4 highway.
I also gave 2-3 feedbacks to Google Maps, 1-2 weeks ago, but there is still nothing.

I also gave 1-2 Updates for roads in Germany and Austria. There it had been updated after 3-5 days.


Hmm, lets wait when it will be updated in Bulgaria.
Even Road Updates in Romania get faster as in Bulgaria :/
God has heard a few words, but the rest he put into the ***.
See this
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.1450436,25.3593886,12z
I wouldn't drive that part. Don't wanna fall into the Maritsa - anyway I'm not James Bond to make such tricks.
Maybe they wait for some Bulgarian guy taking a video from A-Z
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Old November 27th, 2015, 04:38 AM   #6838
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What i dont get is, why you cant go from A1 to A4 if you come from the east. Suppose you need to leave A1 west of Cirpan, taking the 664 and 66 afterwards?

https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.18971.../data=!3m1!1e3
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Old November 28th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #6839
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What i dont get is, why you cant go from A1 to A4 if you come from the east. Suppose you need to leave A1 west of Cirpan, taking the 664 and 66 afterwards?

https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.18971.../data=!3m1!1e3
I think that is a very good question !
I didnt recognize the Problem/Situation until yet.
Interesting solution at the moment of the government.

Hmm
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Old November 28th, 2015, 09:07 PM   #6840
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For those,who wants Sofia Ring Road as a motorway,quote me!
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