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Old November 24th, 2007, 01:41 PM   #781
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One thing why the Struma motorway is so good is because the very thick asphalt, I saw where the aspahlt ends at the ending of this section and it is at least 60 cm if not 80 cm and thatīs really much, thatīs German standart. unfortunately I donīt have a pic of it but when I next time go to sofia Iīll try to catch that place where it can be seen, I donīt think I need to mention that the national raod part from there to Dupnica has jsut as think asphalt layer.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:04 PM   #782
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80cm thick?thats almost a metre!Are you sure?
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:14 PM   #783
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80cm is quite common in European motorway building. Unlike American Freeways which are said to be only half a meter thick.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:18 PM   #784
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not 80cm thick asphalt though
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:30 PM   #785
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80cm thick?thats almost a metre!Are you sure?
thatīs why it is so smooth, they added a 40 cm thick asphalt layer on the second class road going to Bansko and small orderpoint with greece.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:43 PM   #786
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You wouldn't notice the difference of 20cm or 80cm asphalt on the Struma after one year when construction completed. If it is still smooth in 10 years, then you might say it's useful to add such a thick layer.

I wonder if there are any traffic counts from the Struma, it can't be much.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 03:08 PM   #787
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You wouldn't notice the difference of 20cm or 80cm asphalt on the Struma after one year when construction completed. If it is still smooth in 10 years, then you might say it's useful to add such a thick layer.

I wonder if there are any traffic counts from the Struma, it can't be much.
Oh the lost time there was a lot of traffic there, I donīt know why, probably because it was Friday at 20:00 because at that time people from sofia go visit their family. you canīt say thereīs little traffic, at the morning and at the evening there is traffic on it.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 05:27 PM   #788
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You wouldn't notice the difference of 20cm or 80cm asphalt on the Struma after one year when construction completed. If it is still smooth in 10 years, then you might say it's useful to add such a thick layer.

I wonder if there are any traffic counts from the Struma, it can't be much.
struma didnīt have signs and u r expecting traffic counts.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 05:31 PM   #789
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Sorry, i was blinded by Radish's enthousiasm
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Old November 24th, 2007, 05:43 PM   #790
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struma didnīt have signs and u r expecting traffic counts.
Donīt spread such ******* BULLSHIT, probably your ******* awful motorways donīt have any or have rosty signs but not the Struma motorway, Iīve posted pics of signs so donīt spread bullshit with your 28 km motorway for a whole country, really laughable.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 05:45 PM   #791
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u take this way too serious, dude
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Old November 24th, 2007, 06:06 PM   #792
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Donīt spread such ******* BULLSHIT, probably your ******* awful motorways donīt have any or have rosty signs but not the Struma motorway, Iīve posted pics of signs so donīt spread bullshit with your 28 km motorway for a whole country, really laughable.
here we go again with idioting, bullshitting, *******, awfulling, rost (it's not a problem, Mr Muscolo helps to fix it) etc.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 06:49 PM   #793
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Iīve posted pics of signs so donīt spread bullshit with your 28 km motorway for a whole country, really laughable.
It's almost miserable you judge people just on the amount and quality of motorways in the country they live in... (I guess then Holland would be like heaven for you, isn't it? )

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Old November 24th, 2007, 10:25 PM   #794
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not 80cm thick asphalt though
Actually yes, 80 cm think asphalt. I don't know if it's the European standard, but it is the standard on German autobahns. And yes, as Chris said, in North America we use about half of this thickness.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 12:23 AM   #795
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Donīt spread such ******* BULLSHIT, probably your ******* awful motorways donīt have any or have rosty signs but not the Struma motorway, Iīve posted pics of signs so donīt spread bullshit with your 28 km motorway for a whole country, really laughable.
second try
struma didnīt have signs and u r expecting traffic counts.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 12:24 AM   #796
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The Struma has also not a motorway-sign, but an expressway sign, and is therefore not (yet) a motorway at all.
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The Struma has also not a motorway-sign, but an expressway sign, and is therefore not (yet) a motorway at all.
oh no, don't say it! now we're gonna listen again about roadworks and changing the signs
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Old November 25th, 2007, 06:00 AM   #798
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The Struma has also not a motorway-sign, but an expressway sign, and is therefore not (yet) a motorway at all.
chris, fro the last time now I am telling you that they changed the sane, there was a expressway sign because there wasnīt a fence everywhere yet, now there is and motorwaysign + green signs are there and I give a ******* shit whatīs on it if the speedlimit is 120 and if it looks and functions like a motorway.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 07:18 AM   #799
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chris, fro the last time now I am telling you that they changed the sane, there was a expressway sign because there wasnīt a fence everywhere yet, now there is and motorwaysign + green signs are there and I give a ******* shit whatīs on it if the speedlimit is 120 and if it looks and functions like a motorway.
radi, is Struma like God to you? I mean, we have hundreds of Interstates and Interstate-standard roadways here in the USA and I like riding on them but you're starting to seem a little....fanatical.

Usually we save that sort of devotion for church, family, sports.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 07:32 AM   #800
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radi, is Struma like God to you? I mean, we have hundreds of Interstates and Interstate-standard roadways here in the USA and I like riding on them but you're starting to seem a little....fanatical.

Usually we save that sort of devotion for church, family, sports.
No I am not but I donīt like if someone writtes wrong information about it.
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