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Old January 9th, 2008, 12:01 AM   #981
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Oh yeah...these shiny crash-barriers, smooth asphalt..."I'm lovin it".

And for me the best motorway in Bulgaria is Trakya. Particularly the section which starts 20 km before Chirpan and ends near Stara Zagora..There i can drive my little Citroen at full speed...(160-170km/h)
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Old January 9th, 2008, 12:06 AM   #982
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Well, now I'm beginning to see the light!

.... and Radi has been right all along!

Bulgaria really does have shiney crash barriers!
the light you see in that pic is called the .. er sun. On a bright sunny day I think even an average shiny crash barriers would look extra shiny.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 12:17 AM   #983
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Oh yeah...these shiny crash-barriers, smooth asphalt..."I'm lovin it".

And for me the best motorway in Bulgaria is Trakya. Particularly the section which starts 20 km before Chirpan and ends near Stara Zagora..There i can drive my little Citroen at full speed...(160-170km/h)
come on, is it really that bad?
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Old January 9th, 2008, 12:27 AM   #984
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OK radi , we believe you Don't need to tell us couple of times a day that Struma is the Crème de la Crème of all highways in the world. Just slow down the ball a little bit , would you ?
Crème de la mènthe for OFAH fans .
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Old January 9th, 2008, 01:56 AM   #985
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Crème de la mènthe for OFAH fans .
con la crema da barba da menta
con l'autoradio sempre nella mano destra...



about Hemus pavement - i thought opposite. namely, it looks to me as dome from pebbles, not ground stone
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Old January 9th, 2008, 02:14 AM   #986
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The roadmarkings on Bugarian national roads and motorways are so good that they don´t need to be renewed.
Ya better get the Bulgarian National Motorways department to file an international patent on that secret line-marking recipe before some country decides to send in secret agents on an espionage expedition and steal it.

Colonel Saunders has always kept his Kentucky Fried Chicken recipe secret that way!
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Old January 9th, 2008, 11:37 AM   #987
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And for me the best motorway in Bulgaria is Trakya. Particularly the section which starts 20 km before Chirpan and ends near Stara Zagora..There i can drive my little Citroen at full speed...(160-170km/h)
Didn't see much about Trakia motorway here so made a little collection from other threads :

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A nice little footage of the Trakia highway: Sofia - Plovdiv - Stara Zagora

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Did my post get deleted?
A new section of "Trakia" motorway in Bulgaria.



pictures from http://www.chambersz.com
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This is Trakia highway, some photos:









Trayanovi Vrata tunnel:


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Few pics of Trakia highway from my short trip to Plovdiv.













Some crapy asphalt





Sofia in the distance





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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:45 PM   #988
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Now some info about my home town - Veliko Tarnovo.

This is the West entrance of the city from Sofia direction [E772].



From Google Earth :




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This is the South entrance of the city. The crossroad of [E772] -> Sofia-Varna and [E85] -> Istanbul-Bucurest. The interchange was finished in 1999.

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A few bad quality aireal shots :







And from Google Earth :


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Old January 9th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #989
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Thanks Turnovec and blue79
About time we had some more shots of the Bularian road system.
In general it looks pretty good on those pics.
Looking at the Trakia motorway I presume the idea that grass will also grow on the central median in time aswell (at the moment it just dust and gravel).
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Old January 10th, 2008, 06:49 PM   #990
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Here's a picture of the E85 I've taken last week. After leaving the interchange, it goes dramatically right under Veliko Tarnovo.



Don't have pics from the rest of the trip, but I have to say the Hemus tunnels and viaducts are impressive, and the pavement of the short stretch Struma motorway is really very good. No, the crashbarriers were not shinier than they use to be . The 2-lane roads I've seen (E79) were in good shape and mostly avoided towns - smooth driving except for 60km/h limits at every little junction with a minor road.

Does anyone know why the Struma is speed limited to 90 km/h and is marked as expressway and not motorway? Is it because it is so curvy and steep, or because it is not complete?
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Old January 10th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #991
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Wow, this is spectacular.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 07:25 PM   #992
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Don't have pics from the rest of the trip, but I have to say the Hemus tunnels and viaducts are impressive, and the pavement of the short stretch Struma motorway is really very good. No, the crashbarriers were not shinier than they use to be . The 2-lane roads I've seen (E79) were in good shape and mostly avoided towns - smooth driving except for 60km/h limits at every little junction with a minor road.

Does anyone know why the Struma is speed limited to 90 km/h and is marked as expressway and not motorway? Is it because it is so curvy and steep, or because it is not complete?
******* AWWWESOME!!! See verso and Chris and X-type and Keber, the pavement of the Struma motorway is aktually very good and better than usual and you talk shit that your motorways are way more advanced. I am really proud and happy to hear that others have the same opinion of our extremly smooth asphalt. Never ever again say Struma motorway is bad.

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Old January 10th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #993
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What about his question at the end?


Btw that shot is awesome nitz!
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Old January 10th, 2008, 08:32 PM   #994
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What about his question at the end?


Btw that shot is awesome nitz!
I think that is typical Bulgarian to let old sgins stay, they don´t care about signalisation at all. But they added green direction signs so that means it is motorway. and the beautiful Struma motorway will be continued, I read that the concurs for the company to build the motorway will start in a few days, so this year there will be construction year of the Autobahn.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 08:56 PM   #995
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******* AWWWESOME!!! See verso and Chris and X-type and Keber, the pavement of the Struma motorway is aktually very good and better than usual and you talk shit that your motorways are way more advanced. I am really proud and happy to hear that others have the same opinion of our extremly smooth asphalt. Never ever again say Struma motorway is bad.
we (i) have never said that it is bad, but it is overvalued because there are a plenty of much more interesting things at bulgarian roads than Struma. for instance, this fabolous tunnel under Veliko Tarnovo! it's fantastic!!!!
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Old January 10th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #996
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No, it is not. Who cares about objects?
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Old January 10th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #997
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Keber is just an arrogant patriot

Edit Chris: please control yourself or resolve this issue by PM. No one is interested in online warfare.
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And Radi lacks sense of humour.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 10:26 PM   #999
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Old January 10th, 2008, 10:27 PM   #1000
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It almost looks like gravel.

Maybe it is different when you drive on it.
Such road construction is on purpose. Under bad weather condition this pavement provides for better cohesion between the tyre and the road surface, as water stays in the lower part of the pavement, among the gravel stones standing above it. Now, it may seem a strange explanation, but I was told so by a guy, who had been engineering roads some time ago. Since I've been driving on Trakia for some 15 years or so, I can assure you that such pavement is much better in case of rain, when aquaplaning may occur on an absolutely smooth road surface, while it may not on such surface. Actually I prefer the old sections of it, as I feel I have a better control of the car under any conditions.
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