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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:34 PM   #1341
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can I see Lyulin U/C from any road?I really want to see it
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #1342
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You can see it from the ringroad between Suhodol and Obelya(I think) . Exactly where is the memorial of the dead soldier in an accident 10 years ago.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 02:53 AM   #1343
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If it ain't Strumatic, it ain't worth looking at. No shiney crashbarriers, no ultra smooth pavement, no nothing.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 02:49 PM   #1344
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can I see Lyulin U/C from any road?I really want to see it


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По "Люлин" се работи много сериозно. Дори в 21 ч. багерите и камионите вършееха здраво. Работи се поне на три фронта - на Даскалово вече се гради пътния възел - оформени са кофражи за мостове и се отлива бетон. Между Големо и Мало Бучино също се извършват земни работи а на околовръстното земни работи за пътния възел.
CHRIS, can we have the header map changed with this one ?

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Ok Verso You'll finally get the required info :



Trakiya (A1) West :

1980 Sofia-Pazardjik
1983 Pazardjik-west junction towards Plovdiv
1989 reached the junction Trud(the road Karlovo-Plovdiv)
2003 Plovdiv - Chirpan
2007 Chirpan - Stara Zagora

Trakiya (A1) East :

2006 Burgas - Karnobat

Hemus (A2) - West :

1975 Sofia-Jerkovo.
1981-82 the viaducts and the tunnels in the mountain.
1984 reached Pravets.
1987-88 Praveshka Lakatnitsa near Djurovo, without the tunnel "praveshki Hanove" and the viaduct after it.
1998 the obove weas finished + 6 km. to Yablanica.

Hemus (A2) - East :

1973-74 Varna-Devnya.
1984 Devnya-Provadia
1988-89 Devnya - Kaspichan
2005 Kaspichan - Shumen

Cherno More (A3)

1980-ies 10 km. from Asparuhov Bridge to Priselci.

Maritsa

2007 38 km. in use from Harmanli to Kapitan Andreevo

Struma

2007 39 km. in use...


And these are the promises of the Government for 2009 ...
i don't believe they will come true though...

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Old April 10th, 2008, 07:34 PM   #1345
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No, please not, because these maps are all wrong, I have drawn a mpa last year which should have served for my wikipedia article but I havn´t changed the normal pic with my map,



This map is true, it shows that the motorway is already constructed from Daskalovo to dolna Dykanya, the map above shows that it is constructed from Dupnica to Dolna Dykania and that there´s no motorway from Dolna Dykania to Daskalovo. And there aren´t 39 km of Struma motorway in use but 22 km and 22 km of high quality national road.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 02:04 PM   #1346
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Oh and what´s this shit, the markings at the beginning of the motorway have already faded out, how rediculous, the markings at the Struma motorway beginning and end havn´t faded out at all altough they are older.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 02:10 PM   #1347
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Near Plovdiv
Looks very unsafe to me. This should be under barriers. War doesn't never erupt so fast, that crashbarriers couldn't be unmounted soon enough for aircrafts.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 02:11 PM   #1348
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you all praise the Trakya but it´s crappy, if only I look at the markings at the beginning of the motorway, they already have faded out, on the Struma motorway no marking at all has faded out!!!


and the emergency lanes are of brigher asphalt than the ones of the Struma motorway, that show sthat this motorway is cheaper built and that they saved money everywhere they can, on the Struma motorway the whole surface is the same.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 03:13 PM   #1349
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you are repeating yourself
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Old April 11th, 2008, 04:50 PM   #1350
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OMG!!!Does it matter whether the whole surface is the same or not?I don't see any difference between the Struma and Trakiya Markings!Btw the actual motorway begins at the dark asphalt so there is no need to paint the markings further because Trakiya will continue further to the east and then they wil paint it
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Old April 11th, 2008, 09:12 PM   #1351
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Near Plovdiv

I find this very unsafe. Need for aircraft landing/takeoff can't be so big, that crashbarriers can't be istalled. War never comes any minute.

Everywhere else barriers are in between and usually even grassy median (to be filled with temporary flat blocks in case of emergency)
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Old April 11th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #1352
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You're repeating yourself too.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 11:23 PM   #1353
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I find this very unsafe. Need for aircraft landing/takeoff can't be so big, that crashbarriers can't be istalled. War never comes any minute.

Everywhere else barriers are in between and usually even grassy median (to be filled with temporary flat blocks in case of emergency)
Well the people that built highways in the 70-s or 80-s didn't know many ways of building a highway so they thought that this would be the best
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Old April 11th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #1354
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Such section without median is extremely unsafe. I hope there is at least lowered speed limit. We have similar motorway stretch on Slovak D1 which is also supposed to serve as emergency airport, but there is concrete median which could be removed. This is solution also for your motorway:


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Old April 11th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #1355
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Actually I've never heard of a car accidents in these 2 sections of the highway. Also there is speed limit-80km/h, and usually drivers respect it. + almost every time there is a police patrol.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 12:32 AM   #1356
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Actually I've never heard of a car accidents in these 2 sections of the highway. Also there is speed limit-80km/h, and usually drivers respect it. + almost every time there is a police patrol.
Lower speed limit and police patrols are nice, but concrete is concrete. I think in most European countries such road (without barrier in median) would be considered neithter motorway nor expressway.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 01:12 AM   #1357
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Lower speed limit and police patrols are nice, but concrete is concrete. I think in most European countries such road (without barrier in median) would be considered neithter motorway nor expressway.
Before this section there is this sign- and then this one ...I think its enough save and as i said, i've never heard of accidents happened there.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #1358
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Exist a oficial website about the struma-motorway EMC 4 ?
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Old April 12th, 2008, 01:31 AM   #1359
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Exist a oficial website about the struma-motorway EMC 4 ?
What?
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:48 PM   #1360
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I don't get it, but it sounds funny as hell!
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