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Old September 1st, 2013, 06:42 PM   #2461
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Well, what a guy from Manch has either? I have serious arguments, you got some fairy guesswork.
RTFM (Read the full manual). You're so wrong about fetishization...
The symbolism you're talking about just seems strange. And I doubt it could possibly have any connection to this tower.
I'm from Manchester, New Hampshire, north of Boston, so I do have some stake in how 1WTC is viewed, but I'm generally neutral or positive on both 1WTC and the Lotte Tower. The former supposedly stands for more, and I'd still consider it magnificent if they'd kept the spire (instead of the ugly antenna it's got now), but the latter has a more interesting design, in my opinion.

And indeed, Lotte tower does stand for what I said. Inno has been saying it, and there have been interviews of the Lotte chairman Shin Kyuk-ho saying that this tower means a lot to him. He wanted to build a landmark for Seoul, something equivalent to Taipei 101 in its identification with that particular city, and he's got the means and made plans to do so.

I'm also personally interested in how this tower is viewed by Seoulites and South Koreans, as it seems to be a source of mixed feelings. Some, like Inno, are proud to see such a tall building built, representative as such things are of wealth and economic power. Others feel it's just another sign of the fact that in South Korea, the chaebol hold most of the power, and that the economy is really balanced unfairly in their favor.

So no, I'm not using guesswork. I know a thing or two about which I speak. You are allowed your opinion on the tower, and on its context, as I am mine, but I'd implore that we not be so jaded as to diminish the construction of something so significant as a +500m skyscraper.

Edit: P.S. Just so you know, RTFM typically means read the f*cking manual, not read the full manual.
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Old September 1st, 2013, 07:16 PM   #2462
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And the beijing zhongguo zun in beijing will be the 2 nd tallest after com. In 2015
You're right then there are also the Federation Tower in Moscow, but the Lotte will be the first in the lists
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 12:20 AM   #2463
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 12:23 AM   #2464
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 03:48 AM   #2465
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Inno, do you know what stores will be inside the complex? Will they all be Lotte?
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 04:55 AM   #2466
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Inno, do you know what stores will be inside the complex? Will they all be Lotte?

Very impressive question for me..
Actually in these days lotte very busy for "recruit OF lotte shoppingmall". They called it as "MD"
MD office located in 10floors of Center one building of seoul(CBD)

Almost commercial stores will be outside from lotte company(Except for "Cinema(lotte cinema), mart(big-market)
Individual store brand will be 300 brands

Below is confirm store name
-hermes(france)
-TGI Food
-lotte cinema(Screen 22 units,4500 seats)
-big market(lotte)
-bandinlunis book store (area 1980㎡) http://www.bandinlunis.com/html/main.htm
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 05:18 AM   #2467
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Excellent updates Inno.

I have two questions.
Whats the current height ?
When will this tower be completed ?
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 05:37 AM   #2468
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Excellent updates Inno.

I have two questions.
Whats the current height ?
When will this tower be completed ?
I'm guessed 44floor 184m
TOWER IS GOING TO COMPLETED AT 2015.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 08:35 AM   #2469
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Nice update...

Observation: the supercolumns seems to have less steel than seen in typical Chinese supercolumns, like in the Ping An building in Shenzhen.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:41 AM   #2470
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Inno, fantastic updates

I can't wait to see this tower complete.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 03:03 PM   #2471
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Lotte world tower is dimly visible at the back like a mirage.
Is it too dim?

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Old September 2nd, 2013, 03:56 PM   #2472
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How fast is it rising?
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 12:24 AM   #2473
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With an estimated completion in 2015, a target height of 555 metres and a current height at 184 m, as per the post above... Approximately 185.5 metres per year or 5.882 micrometres per second (2,118 centimetres per hour). On average, of course.
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 06:07 AM   #2474
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What an awesome tower.. Anybody heard anything on the Busan Lotte tower, the other supertall Korea was thinking on building? Just found Busan Lotte, I think I liked that 1 better than this. On hold, so probably never.
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With an estimated completion in 2015, a target height of 555 metres and a current height at 184 m, as per the post above... Approximately 185.5 metres per year or 5.882 micrometres per second (2,118 centimetres per hour). On average, of course.

AMAZING ESTIMATED 2,118 centimetres per hour!!! Great calculate No one ever try such like genius calculate !!
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Old September 3rd, 2013, 09:57 AM   #2476
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With an estimated completion in 2015, a target height of 555 metres and a current height at 184 m, as per the post above... Approximately 185.5 metres per year or 5.882 micrometres per second (2,118 centimetres per hour). On average, of course.

Speak Human but, thanx for the information :3
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Old September 4th, 2013, 02:21 AM   #2477
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I like the form of the tower
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Old September 4th, 2013, 07:59 PM   #2479
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What an awesome tower.. Anybody heard anything on the Busan Lotte tower, the other supertall Korea was thinking on building? Just found Busan Lotte, I think I liked that 1 better than this. On hold, so probably never.
Their waiting for approvals for more residential space in the tower.
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Old September 5th, 2013, 03:15 AM   #2480
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2554270/

500+ meters twins is not bad.

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