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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:19 PM   #3021
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:27 PM   #3022
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Great progress here. The cladding looks very sharp to me.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:29 PM   #3023
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A bit of off-topic:

My friend from Seoul said when you plan/build high-rises in Seoul (or maybe even in the whole country) you always need to consider military threat from North Korea. Due to this, that's why all supertalls are quite controversial.

Is this true? And can you provide some detailed information?
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:50 PM   #3024
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A bit of off-topic:

My friend from Seoul said when you plan/build high-rises in Seoul (or maybe even in the whole country) you always need to consider military threat from North Korea. Due to this, that's why all supertalls are quite controversial.

Is this true? And can you provide some detailed information?

I think that story little bit exaggerate. Same with other country.
Nearby air port area strictly guide by "high limited regulation" when built to skyscraper building.

For example in the case of Seoul, western area can not built tall building due to closed with KIMPO AIRPORT.
Also in CBD area can not built over 150m high.(due to CBD area have some "OLD PALACE")

Also LOTTE TOWER area strictly guide by military reason. Lotte tower is one of them. Because lotte tower area(JAMSIL) little bit closed with korea national air force air port(called sungnam air port)

One things is interesting....In seoul Some roof of tall building have "Anti-Aircraft Artillery" for north korea's airplane.(On the roof 63 building have)
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 07:02 PM   #3025
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I think that story little bit exaggerate. Same with other country.
Nearby air port area strictly guide by "high limited regulation" when built to skyscraper building.

For example in the case of Seoul, western area can not built tall building due to closed with KIMPO AIRPORT.
Also in CBD area can not built over 150m high.(due to CBD area have some "OLD PALACE")

Also LOTTE TOWER area strictly guide by military reason. Lotte tower is one of them. Because lotte tower area(JAMSIL) little bit closed with korea national air force air port(called sungnam air port)
Thanks a lot! True, it's not that complicated as it looks.

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One things is interesting....In seoul Some roof of tall building have "Anti-Aircraft Artillery" for north korea's airplane.(On the roof 63 building have)
Wow! AAA on the skyscraper! Never have seen something like that!
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 07:03 PM   #3026
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So, what are the district where Seoul Government can built supertalls?
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 08:17 PM   #3027
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So, what are the district where Seoul Government can built supertalls?
The government fear of height so they anti supertalls
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 09:24 PM   #3028
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I've heard of a coup d'etat in North Korea. What is happen?
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Old January 4th, 2014, 03:54 AM   #3029
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I can't find anything, just a barbaric execution(not confirmed).
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Old January 5th, 2014, 12:38 AM   #3030
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Cool pics INNO.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 08:03 AM   #3031
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INNO's pics are the best on this thread.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 12:48 PM   #3032
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Antares031's pics are too.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 09:15 PM   #3033
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Here is a very recent promotion video about the construction:

blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=lotte_tower&categoryNo=8&from=postList&parentCategoryNo=8

awesome project, really impressive. Too bad its not in a more central location though..

EDIT: sorry for not posting a real link, the forum denied it. just copy and paste the link into your browser
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Old January 6th, 2014, 04:58 AM   #3034
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i can't agree with you

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You Right!
Many project disappear due to world finacial crisis.(YONGSAN IBD, SEOUL LITE ETC)
But Lotte tower is no problem when another world financial crisis hit...
Because this project is last hope for Mr shin who chairman of lotte group(they already finished prepare financial supply for lotte tower).
Only problem is korean's anti develop culture.

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Seoul has already enough office Buildings. So CBD office empty rate over 7%, and in 1~2 year 3 very big size buildings each one over 100,000~150,000 square meter(D tower, Olleh plex, GS jongro tower) will open. And Yeouido(YBD) over 13% include 'IFC Three' emty all floor. moreover FKI tower in YBD(same as IFC one's size building)open not yet. Gangnam area(GBD) empty rate over 6%. These means Seoul is not good area for supertall or skyscraper. i think if YONGSAN IBD, SEOUL LITE plans are still going... these bring another financial crisis.
Only problem is korean's anti develop culture?? i don't think so.
In Korea developing is kind of religion. we really love new things. i think you can agree about this.
Seoul aleady started developing plans like a Magok area(over 3,300,000 square meter, this has very wide area for IT company, Bio Company), Wirye newtown is very very wide area (6,774,628 square meter) you did't talk about thes two plans... and kumchon area also prepared(you aleady mention it another category).
these are not all. seoul also has small developing areas. Seoul evolving every day.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 07:24 AM   #3035
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Seoul has already enough office Buildings. So CBD office empty rate over 7%, and in 1~2 year 3 very big size buildings each one over 100,000~150,000 square meter(D tower, Olleh plex, GS jongro tower) will open. And Yeouido(YBD) over 13% include 'IFC Three' emty all floor. moreover FKI tower in YBD(same as IFC one's size building)open not yet. Gangnam area(GBD) empty rate over 6%. These means Seoul is not good area for supertall or skyscraper. i think if YONGSAN IBD, SEOUL LITE plans are still going... these bring another financial crisis.
Only problem is korean's anti develop culture?? i don't think so.
In Korea developing is kind of religion. we really love new things. i think you can agree about this.
Seoul aleady started developing plans like a Magok area(over 3,300,000 square meter, this has very wide area for IT company, Bio Company), Wirye newtown is very very wide area (6,774,628 square meter) you did't talk about thes two plans... and kumchon area also prepared(you aleady mention it another category).
these are not all. seoul also has small developing areas. Seoul evolving every day.
You got the point there!
Seoul was undergoing high vacancy rate in office market last year in 2013.

Last year, in 2013, the central business district, or CBD, office market showed characteristics of increases in vacancy rate due to new supply. The Gangnam business district, or GBD, has experienced an increase in vacancy rate because some IT companies are moving out of the Gangnam area.

The Yeouido business district, or YBD, vacancy rate reached its highest level in history due to the completion of two landmark towers at the IFC.

In 2013, the vacancy rate in the CBD area where new supply has been focused increased to 16.5 percent. In the GBD and YBD areas, it was 7.5 percent and 22.1 percent, respectively. Monthly rental growth continued to show a weak but steady trend due to the influence of the increased vacancy rate. Most landlords have decided to freeze their monthly rental prices during the renewal period for leasing contracts last year, providing flexible rent-free periods instead of dropping the monthly rent.

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You said "we".
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In Korea developing is kind of religion. we really love new things. .
Are you a korean? Answer me please.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 07:50 AM   #3037
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Seoul mayor has cancelled Yongsan IBD, but, if Seoul Light will be built and Parc1 complete, Seoul will be more impressive I think Tokyo is an awesome city, you're right on this point. But, if after this mayor there is another that love and approve skyscrapers and development, Seoul will have, possibly, a number of supertalls like Busan, that have now 1 supertall on hold, 3 in preparation and 1 build. I hope that this will be the future of Seoul, so it will be AS IMPRESSIVE AS Tokyo.
And Seoul will have its iconic building like Tokyo, Lotte World Tower, that is a skyscraper not a tower for communication.
But, I repeat, I think that Tokyo is a fantastic city so it is my opinion
To be accurate, Seoul mayor didn't cancel Yongsan IBD.(Actually he doesn't have the right to cancel this project which was already approved during former Seoul mayor's tenure, Oh,Sehoon's tenure.)
korail gave up and handed off the project.

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You said "we".


Are you a korean? Answer me please.
yes...
i think 'we' is not good expression.
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