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Old March 17th, 2014, 01:31 AM   #3461
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So, somehow, all these things on this short, quick list, many of which either present a uniquely-flavored Korean experience (shopping, cuisine, coffee houses, temples), are uniquely Korean (the palaces, the museums), or are things that aren't uniquely Korean but still nice experiences whenever they happen anywhere (parks and hiking, the amusement park), are less interesting and unique than a mall? What planet are you from?
Where did I come from? Let's say Paris since Paris happens to be the most visited city in the world and they don't seem to need a tall building or a mega shopping mall to attract a lot of foreign visitors. Do you like that? My point is simple. Seoul needs something that is easily visible to others whom may not be very familiar with Seoul and South Korea. When more people come to Korea, things may start happening. When Korean young people are asked about the importance of the reunification of Korea, Shockingly enough, many of them did not have a clue or interest. I hope you are not like that.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 02:09 AM   #3462
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What can you tell me about Seoul that I should get excited about? Let's suppose I am a foreign tourist prospect.
Well, you have SNSD:







They really get me excited.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 03:32 AM   #3463
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Where did I come from? Let's say Paris since Paris happens to be the most visited city in the world and they don't seem to need a tall building or a mega shopping mall to attract a lot of foreign visitors. Do you like that? My point is simple. Seoul needs something that is easily visible to others whom may not be very familiar with Seoul and South Korea. When more people come to Korea, things may start happening. When Korean young people are asked about the importance of the reunification of Korea, Shockingly enough, many of them did not have a clue or interest. I hope you are not like that.
I don't even disagree with the point I think you're making (even if not very well): Seoul needs a landmark. A lot of cities have either "monuments", like the Eiffel Tower, Palace of Westminster, or Tiananmen Square, or the Statue of Liberty, or well-known skylines, like Manhattan or Hong Kong: things that, as soon as they're seen, people know what place it is. I don't even disagree that the Lotte World Tower could very well become that provider of instant recognition. But we were talking about the mall, and why the mayor wouldn't let it open yet. Malls just don't perform that kind of function because they're almost always unremarkable, and this one, though nice, isn't that special.

And you're completely off-topic on the issue of why many young South Koreans seem totally uninterested, or even wary of the prospect; that is a fairly complicated issue that has nothing to do with this.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 04:31 AM   #3464
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These photos are IFC accident.

IFC TOWER completed at 2012. Before completion SEOUL MAYOR allowed "temporary mall open& used before tower T/O".
What about LOTTE TOWER? SEOUL reject "temporary mall open" DUE TO SAFETY reason yesterday!
SAFETY?
IFC 5 times BIG accident than LOTTE TOWER
and 3 worker dead even basement collapse plus Fire accident inside mall(daytime)
at that time many citizens escape from mall(For 1 hour take until fire extinguish)

Lotte only 1 person dead. Fire was small after 30 minute extinguish!

So IFC was safety than lotte? 3 worker dead is minor problem so seoul allowed permission?
Meanwhile LOTTE TOWER is disaster? So lotte tower can not open before T/O?
Furthermore SEOUL didn't ask $ 1 billion to IFC but they ask $ 1 billion to LOTTE. Already they pay for traffic solution.

As skyscraper fan&lover I'm not the one who lotte tower make it for political issue
But SEOUL MAYOR and his supporter make it used for!!
In SEOUL Not only LOTTE TOWER but also skyscraper is political issue like a OBAMA heath care issue in USA(no offensive means sorry).

Opposite party of Skorea accused skyscraper as a disaster&negative subject(Include yongsan IBD,HYUNDAI HQ,SEOULITE,EVEN SEOUL ITSELF)thanks[/QUOTE]



please don't connect with accident.
IFC mall & lotte dont have same conditions..
just think about traffic. only problem is traffic jam.
IFC mall still don't make any kind of traffic jam.
this mall is very smaller than lotte world tower and malls..
do you remember when time square in Yeongdeungpo open?
this mall's area traffic condition is very simillar with chamsil..
when this mall opened that was like hell of traffic jam ... still nobody can controll this problem..
this mall 4times smaller than lotte world tower
(time squre = about 370000 square meter, new lotte tower with lotter world = about 16500000 square meter. this is 5th in world )
we can imagine what will happen...
people of chamsill want solution of traffic jam before open

and original plan of openning lotte world tower in 2016 with traffic jam solution(transfer system, some more road, buses parking area). that promised lotte when gave the permission.

when keep the promise.. nobody can not stop lotte
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Old March 17th, 2014, 06:51 AM   #3465
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Yeah me too barca Wow,, I really never gave Asian women a second glance,,, but WOW!!!!!! these 5 are just Gorgeous...



and back to topic,, Inno makes some serious good points about the safety issue. Lotte World must rise!

Cestlavie24, raises good issues too. Seoul lotte must not be stopped. It would be bad for Seoul, and the up coming Olympic games,, Seoul needs this tower, as did London with it's Shard for it's games.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 06:54 AM   #3466
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More photos and Above photos copyright belong to http://poison777.tistory.com/4333
사진을 퍼와서 죄송합니다. 혹시 사진의 주인분께서 삭제를 원하실경우 주져하지 마시고 제게 댓글이나 쪽지를 요청하시면
즉각 바로 삭제하겠습니다. 좋은 사진 찍어주셔서 감사합니다.


Today little bit "SMOG PM 2.5 of China effect on seoul atmosphere

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YOU JUST PLAYING GUITARS. 3rd rocker wonsung supporter lol
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Old March 17th, 2014, 07:10 AM   #3467
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Seoul Lotte needs to rise for the Olympics.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 07:16 AM   #3468
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LOTTE MALL begin recruit worker who will employee in Shopping mall!
Total 20,000 new jobs need in LOTTE TOWER.
Among them 5,000 employee recruit from songpa district residence citizen(songpa is a lotte tower belong district of seoul )
This time 6,000 job.

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Yeah me too barca Wow,, I really never gave Asian women a second glance,,, but WOW!!!!!! these 5 are just Gorgeous...
and back to topic,, Inno makes some serious good points about the safety issue. Lotte World must rise!

Thanks. Me too i love those women who girls generation
Right I'm agree Nobody agree this unfair accuse against lotte tower.
IFC TOWER 4 times big accident than lotte tower but IFC get permission
Meanwhile lotte was reject. If lotte unsafety, IFC would not allowed permission for mall open. But they reverse.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 09:29 AM   #3469
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Well, you have SNSD:







They really get me excited.
Ehi, you can't forget my Hyoyeon :'( my Hyoyeon now is super 섹시, so beautiful like the other and well like the other *-* Go HYOYEON
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Old March 17th, 2014, 11:11 AM   #3470
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yesterday Seoul civil maratthon
More photos and Above photos copyright belong to http://blog.naver.com/junggalchan?Re...No=30187063185
사진을 퍼와서 죄송합니다. 혹시 사진의 주인분께서 삭제를 원하실경우 주져하지 마시고 제게 댓글이나 쪽지를 요청하시면
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Ehi, you can't forget my Hyoyeon :'( my Hyoyeon now is super 섹시, so beautiful like the other and well like the other *-* Go HYOYEON



YES Hyoyeon!!
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Old March 17th, 2014, 01:34 PM   #3471
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I don't even disagree with the point I think you're making (even if not very well): Seoul needs a landmark. A lot of cities have either "monuments", like the Eiffel Tower, Palace of Westminster, or Tiananmen Square, or the Statue of Liberty, or well-known skylines, like Manhattan or Hong Kong: things that, as soon as they're seen, people know what place it is. I don't even disagree that the Lotte World Tower could very well become that provider of instant recognition. But we were talking about the mall, and why the mayor wouldn't let it open yet. Malls just don't perform that kind of function because they're almost always unremarkable, and this one, though nice, isn't that special.

And you're completely off-topic on the issue of why many young South Koreans seem totally uninterested, or even wary of the prospect; that is a fairly complicated issue that has nothing to do with this.
I don't want to make an off topic another argument with you but it does not have to be a complicated answer. We all know that.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 04:14 PM   #3472
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YES Hyoyeon!!
My Hyoyeon is so wonderful *-* So SEKSHI, so... *pass out*
I can't resist at her. *-* Thanks Inno, well done
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Old March 17th, 2014, 04:17 PM   #3473
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Old March 17th, 2014, 05:19 PM   #3474
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- Announcement -

Due to the latest change of my college class schedule, I need to change the day of week of my weekly update from Monday to Tuesday.

So starting next week, I'll upload my photos on every Tuesday instead of Monday.

Yeah, I become a senior of Architectural Engineering this year by the way. ㅇ_ㅇ
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Old March 17th, 2014, 05:27 PM   #3476
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anyone got the interior pic of the mall?
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Old March 17th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #3477
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I don't want to make an off topic another argument with you but it does not have to be a complicated answer. We all know that.
If you don't mind, I'd like to do some private messaging with you about this topic, because you should know why it is a very complicated issue.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 12:31 AM   #3478
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Congratulation, you won a bucket of internet.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 12:37 AM   #3479
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the reason i open this thread ,cause want to see many update photos construction...
but why several page has any SNSD ??? its this still thread about update construction...??
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Old March 18th, 2014, 12:44 AM   #3480
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They really get me excited.
Do you mean K-pop in another word? That's a resounding YES to me and the SNSD girls are simply the best.
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