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Old May 7th, 2014, 10:00 PM   #3881
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luxurious mall! nice design but somehow could add up more luxury feel to the design. or maybe the render not good enough, lets wait till it complete
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Old May 7th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #3882
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When they built the Eiffel Tower in Paris all french people hated the tower. But now its one of the most famous landmark buildings and they love it.
I think it will be similar with LWT. After a few years koreans will be proud of it hopefully
Well, kind of the same story with the Uplace tower in Machelen, Belgium, just outside of the Belgian capital of Brussels. The construction has not even started but it might be the same story I think. I don't understand why people around the world don't think wider. In Belgium we have a saying about this: To live like horses with eye valves on.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 05:30 AM   #3883
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I love, Inno's 1st pic show's the beauty of the complex.. Looks State Of The Art!
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Old May 8th, 2014, 08:20 AM   #3884
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Old May 8th, 2014, 10:53 AM   #3885
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I don't understand why the Seoul citizens make such a big problem out of this tower.
Recently, many newspapers bring stories about the horrible traffic situation around LWT area. People find it extremely inconvenient, as bus stops are now more far away from each other and traffic lanes were merged together. here is a source in Korean with some pictures: http://news.sportsseouli.com/read/economy/1365201.htm


Today another newspaper brought a huge report about the hopeless traffic situation at LWT. Already now residents call the intersection in front of LWT the "intersection of death", due to the inacceptable traffic congestions and even experts think that Lotte won't be able to improve the situation, especially once the tower opens (>1 million tourists per year expected)
good source: http://www.ebn.co.kr/news/view/680392 (translate with google translator)

Additionally there are people who simply don't trust the construction quality of the tower. Some newspapers call the tower "the tower of Babel". People think its cursed and that more people will die.

Some people even expect the tower to collapse some day, either by poor construction quality, or by a plane crashing into the building (LWT lies very close to the landing path of a close-by military airport)

Here, for example, is a user who illustrates which areas will be affected if LWT collapses: http://www.todayhumor.co.kr/board/vi...A1%AF%EB%8D%B0

So, basically, there are 2 kinds of LWT-haters:
- people who are pissed because of the the insufficient traffic concept
- people who are scared because of building safety and building collapse

But still, i hope that people will like it once its finished
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Old May 8th, 2014, 05:09 PM   #3886
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Recently, many newspapers bring stories about the horrible traffic situation around LWT area. People find it extremely inconvenient, as bus stops are now more far away from each other and traffic lanes were merged together. here is a source in Korean with some pictures: http://news.sportsseouli.com/read/economy/1365201.htm


Today another newspaper brought a huge report about the hopeless traffic situation at LWT. Already now residents call the intersection in front of LWT the "intersection of death", due to the inacceptable traffic congestions and even experts think that Lotte won't be able to improve the situation, especially once the tower opens (>1 million tourists per year expected)
good source: http://www.ebn.co.kr/news/view/680392 (translate with google translator)

Additionally there are people who simply don't trust the construction quality of the tower. Some newspapers call the tower "the tower of Babel". People think its cursed and that more people will die.

Some people even expect the tower to collapse some day, either by poor construction quality, or by a plane crashing into the building (LWT lies very close to the landing path of a close-by military airport)

Here, for example, is a user who illustrates which areas will be affected if LWT collapses: http://www.todayhumor.co.kr/board/vi...A1%AF%EB%8D%B0

So, basically, there are 2 kinds of LWT-haters:
- people who are pissed because of the the insufficient traffic concept
- people who are scared because of building safety and building collapse

But still, i hope that people will like it once its finished
Well i guess some of them have never been to Europe before, driving the E-40. it's one of the most busy roads in the world. Where i live they build bridges or dig tunnels over and under big intersections. Look at the ring road in Brussels, it goes in a tunnel with nearly any intersection. could that be a solution for the Lotte intersection in Seoul?
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Old May 8th, 2014, 05:39 PM   #3887
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Old May 8th, 2014, 06:01 PM   #3888
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Well i guess some of them have never been to Europe before, driving the E-40. it's one of the most busy roads in the world. Where i live they build bridges or dig tunnels over and under big intersections. Look at the ring road in Brussels, it goes in a tunnel with nearly any intersection. could that be a solution for the Lotte intersection in Seoul?
Of course they can build a tunneled intersection under whole Jamsil area, going under Han river too. But imagine the extreme additional costs and how many years it will take to finish such a project. people want solutions now, not in 10-15 years. Especially money is a bottleneck.

Already now they are building an underground bus terminal under LWT. Seoul government wants Lotte to pay even more money for traffic solutions, but, of course, Lotte refuses to pay more. And the government doesn't want to use such extreme amounts of tax money just to solve a problem that a private company caused by building a fancy tower. So here's the conflict.

And i think its hard to compare the E-40, an international highway build and planned through many many years, with just a simple intersection in a residential area in a 25-million metropolis.

Anyway, things would be a lot easier if koreans would just drive less cars, or at least smaller cars
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Old May 8th, 2014, 07:19 PM   #3889
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Strongly agree with that last part. What do Koreans want Lotte or the city gov't to do, anyway? Make the roads even wider?
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Old May 8th, 2014, 08:09 PM   #3890
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Old May 8th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #3891
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Old May 8th, 2014, 09:12 PM   #3892
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So Inno, Hyundai has decided to stick with the plan to build in Tteukseom-dong instead of that site in Samseong-dong in Gangnam? I'm surprised they don't want to build in Gangnam, considering that it's more prestigious.
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Old May 9th, 2014, 07:35 AM   #3893
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So Inno, Hyundai has decided to stick with the plan to build in Tteukseom-dong instead of that site in Samseong-dong in Gangnam? I'm surprised they don't want to build in Gangnam, considering that it's more prestigious.

You right AS YOU KNOW HYUNDAI&KIA try to built head office in Samseong-dong.
Above Tteukseom site is second choice. Because seoul mayor don't allow tall building in Tteukseom.
HYUNDAI competition with SAMSUNG for get Samseong-dong site.
Whether HYUNDAI OR SAMSUNG get the land, Samseong-dong site can BUILT SUPERTALL BUILDING OVER 100FLOOR.

In short HYUNDAI try to built HQ IN
1. Samseong-dong
2. SANGAM DMC SEOULITE SITE
3. Looking forward to new seoul mayor elected, then built in Tteukseom
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Old May 9th, 2014, 03:10 PM   #3894
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I LOVE gwanak mountain, its my favourite one!

In 2010 I took those pictures above from the top of Gwanaksan, and I also photoshopped LWT into the panorama

I posted those pics long time ago in this thread, but I wanted to share them again because of Inno's nice Gwanak pictures
Therefore, sorry for re-posting
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Of course they can build a tunneled intersection under whole Jamsil area, going under Han river too. But imagine the extreme additional costs and how many years it will take to finish such a project. people want solutions now, not in 10-15 years.

(...)

And i think its hard to compare the E-40, an international highway build and planned through many many years, with just a simple intersection in a residential area in a 25-million metropolis.

Anyway, things would be a lot easier if koreans would just drive less cars, or at least smaller cars
Totally agree with that.
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