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Old May 13th, 2015, 07:14 PM   #5641
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The cladding is so beautiful!
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Old May 14th, 2015, 12:40 AM   #5642
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Old May 14th, 2015, 02:15 PM   #5643
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Humptyydumpty, any idea what those cranes in the picture of you looking east to LWT are for? I don't remember seeing any posts about things going up in Gangnam, other than the Parnas Hotel (which I'm thinking is one of the three).

Amazing photos you've been posting lately, btw; makes me want to go back soooooo badly!
thanks!

The three buildings under construction there are the Yeoksam Xii Apartments (3x 127m): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=116393570











The scaffolding around the core is almost fully gone.
Soon the steel framework will reach the top of the core, and the final belt truss will be constructed.

source: http://poison777.tistory.com/5600
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Old May 15th, 2015, 11:51 AM   #5644
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Old May 15th, 2015, 04:25 PM   #5645
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Old May 16th, 2015, 02:29 AM   #5646
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Seoul: Cheongdam Bridge by Seoul Korea, on Flickr



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The river is incredibly wide !

What building is the highest one on the last photo first to the right side ?
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Old May 16th, 2015, 03:06 PM   #5647
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The river is incredibly wide !

What building is the highest one on the last photo first to the right side ?
That's the Seoul World Trade Center, part of the COEX complex.










Quick progress these days.
Three cladding cranes working at the same time.

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Old May 17th, 2015, 02:02 PM   #5648
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Awesome! Can't wait to see it finish at the end of this year (the tower, not the interior)! Too bad I'll be leaving Korea before it finishes....
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Old May 18th, 2015, 12:46 AM   #5649
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Why doesn't ROK have more skyscrapers?
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Old May 19th, 2015, 01:41 AM   #5650
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Why doesn't ROK have more skyscrapers?
1. many korean don't want and hate, also unconcerned.

2. we don't have enough money and population for build supertall
(unfortunatly, popultation will decrease soon)

3. we already have enough buildings. ex) Three IFC Tower( only 270m) still 80% empty...
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Old May 19th, 2015, 04:20 AM   #5651
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Why doesn't ROK have more skyscrapers?
learn some history. Korea was an underdeveloped war-torn country that miraculously boomed and got to where they are now. Don't be that ignorant 'American' that puts all of us to shame
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Old May 19th, 2015, 04:49 AM   #5652
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Good lord, Seoul is a one-trick pony with this building! There are no other supertalls u/c right now anywhere in Seoul. Other than Taipei 101, there is no massive supertall so alone. Don't get me wrong, it looks absolutely fabulous, but oh, so lonely.
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Old May 19th, 2015, 05:20 AM   #5653
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learn some history. Korea was an underdeveloped war-torn country that miraculously boomed and got to where they are now. Don't be that ignorant 'American' that puts all of us to shame
how is that ignorant?
not knowing where korea is or its general history would be.

not knowing the local economic conditions as related to supertall tower construction is not.

is that location on your profile a lie?
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Old May 19th, 2015, 10:37 AM   #5654
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learn some history. Korea was an underdeveloped war-torn country that miraculously boomed and got to where they are now. Don't be that ignorant 'American' that puts all of us to shame
Swaggie's question is very legitimate. especially because it miraculously boomed there should be more skyscrapers. but wait:

The difference between SK and other east-asian countries with skyscrapers is mainly:

- There was enough cheap land in and around Seoul. there was no basic need for building vertically, especially as it was expensive and time-consuming (quick growth was the target, and not fancy buildings)

- More important: Skyscrapers need foreign investment or they are built to attract foreign investment. But South Korea was very restrictive for foreign investment until the mid 90s and even after that.

Compared to China, for example: China has an extremely huge and attractive market for foreign companies and they wanted to attract foreign investment as much as possible. Korea was basically closed for foreign investment during their highest boom period, especially because Korean conglomerates like Samsung or Hyundai didn't want any foreign competition. Entering the Korean market was very difficult and unattractive for a very very long time.

Just from the mid-late 90s or early 2000s things started changing. Now Korea wants to attract foreign investment and many skyscrapers and supertalls were planned. but the econoy struggles since years, which is again making huge skyscraper investments less attrative. And we can see that with failed projects like the Yongsan IBD or Seoul Lite, where investors retreated or no domestic firm wanted to develop the project.
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Old May 19th, 2015, 03:06 PM   #5655
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i guess there will be a steel structure above the concrete core for the last floors?
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Old May 19th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #5656
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learn some history. Korea was an underdeveloped war-torn country that miraculously boomed and got to where they are now. Don't be that ignorant 'American' that puts all of us to shame
Woah calm down mate. Swaggie's question wasn't "ignorant" in any way.
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Old May 20th, 2015, 01:44 AM   #5657
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Visually-speaking, Seoul looks more like a third-tier Chinese city. The Korean conglomerates have stiffled the skyscraper development in their country. How unfortunate. And those Korean conglomerates would never let a Korean"Xiaomi" come to fruition.
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Old May 20th, 2015, 04:46 AM   #5658
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Woah calm down mate. Swaggie's question wasn't "ignorant" in any way.
Sorry if it was offensive I was just being the sarcastic American from New York City
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Old May 20th, 2015, 04:48 AM   #5659
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Swaggie's question is very legitimate. especially because it miraculously boomed there should be more skyscrapers. but wait:

The difference between SK and other east-asian countries with skyscrapers is mainly:

- There was enough cheap land in and around Seoul. there was no basic need for building vertically, especially as it was expensive and time-consuming (quick growth was the target, and not fancy buildings)

- More important: Skyscrapers need foreign investment or they are built to attract foreign investment. But South Korea was very restrictive for foreign investment until the mid 90s and even after that.

Compared to China, for example: China has an extremely huge and attractive market for foreign companies and they wanted to attract foreign investment as much as possible. Korea was basically closed for foreign investment during their highest boom period, especially because Korean conglomerates like Samsung or Hyundai didn't want any foreign competition. Entering the Korean market was very difficult and unattractive for a very very long time.

Just from the mid-late 90s or early 2000s things started changing. Now Korea wants to attract foreign investment and many skyscrapers and supertalls were planned. but the econoy struggles since years, which is again making huge skyscraper investments less attrative. And we can see that with failed projects like the Yongsan IBD or Seoul Lite, where investors retreated or no domestic firm wanted to develop the project.
Appreciate the thorough response.

Anyway this is my favorite supertall u/c right now. Just a beautiful design. I'd like to see some more supertalls in Seoul soon.
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Visually-speaking, Seoul looks more like a third-tier Chinese city. The Korean conglomerates have stiffled the skyscraper development in their country. How unfortunate. And those Korean conglomerates would never let a Korean"Xiaomi" come to fruition.
Erm you need glasses
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