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Old November 1st, 2016, 04:41 AM   #7301
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Old November 1st, 2016, 05:12 AM   #7302
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You'd think they go more modern and hygienic with motion sensor activated things, but it seems more like they went for a faux-traditional, nouveau-riche look. Not very tasteful.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 11:07 AM   #7303
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I tend to agree... I've been to Avenuel quite a few times and I was there back last Wednesday, and the design is quite tacky (not limited to the restroom). It's done on purpose obviously, but you can't help but Wonder if this was the most appropriate creative direction for the decoration. This kind of design feels fairly Middle Easterner or indeed nouveau riche Chinese.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 11:52 AM   #7304
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This tower is surreal. It looks amazing
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Old November 1st, 2016, 11:54 AM   #7305
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Old November 1st, 2016, 12:06 PM   #7306
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Honestly, looks a bit cheapy. Why sink isn't stone as well?

If U donation some money then they would changed that to stone too
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Old November 1st, 2016, 01:18 PM   #7307
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Honestly, looks a bit cheapy. Why sink isn't stone as well?
A number of reasons. The cost of it being only one of them. Aside from the material cost, there's also a higher production cost (cutting from a large piece of stone takes more time, energy, and more expensive milling and polishing equipment), higher probability of defects occurrence. Plus, a white sink on a black stone looks a bit more stylish (if it's made with a good quality), and it's easier to spot in a public place, so you don't get confused when you're visiting this place for the first time. But most importantly, a smooth ceramic surface is the best choice for the hygienic reasons: it's not porous, hence it does not accumulate dirt. For this sake, sanitary ware is widely preferred in white - for the dirt to be easily noticeable, and effectively removed. You just wouldn't see it clearly on a black stone, especially when it's wet. Also, compared specifically to marble, ceramics does not get corroded by the alkaline properties of any soap.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 01:30 PM   #7308
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A number of reasons. The cost of it being only one of them. Aside from the material cost, there's also a higher production cost (cutting from a large piece of stone takes more time, energy, and more expensive milling and polishing equipment), higher probability of defects occurrence. Plus, a white sink on a black stone looks a bit more stylish (if it's made with a good quality), and it's easier to spot in a public place, so you don't get confused when you're visiting this place for the first time. But most importantly, a smooth ceramic surface is the best choice for the hygienic reasons: it's not porous, hence it does not accumulate dirt. For this sake, sanitary ware is widely preferred in white - for the dirt to be easily noticeable, and effectively removed. You just wouldn't see it clearly on a black stone, especially when it's wet. Also, compared specifically to marble, ceramics does not get corroded by the alkaline properties of any soap.

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Old November 1st, 2016, 01:58 PM   #7309
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I really like the design of the tower, but I can't help but notice one tiny detail that bothers me a lot.
I can't be the only one who sees this little buckling of the tower right under the cross bracing at the upper floors. It seems like the slope of the tower is suddenly a little bit more vertical at that point.
Any explanation for this?

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Old November 1st, 2016, 02:32 PM   #7310
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SAM_2336 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서
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zoom in buckling
that is very annoying me
i don't know exactly why they design like that

but My guess that is "makeshift" for increase height of tower.
I know they increase Lotte tower's height one time from around 500m to 555m
Probabaly they get positive information from seoul city "allow more increase height"
So they make that awkward buckling and increase height more than original plan rather than redesign all tower's structure.

please Look carefully vertical outwall line. If built follow that line tower would be decreased height/

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I really like the design of the tower, but I can't help but notice one tiny detail that bothers me a lot.
I can't be the only one who sees this little buckling of the tower right under the cross bracing at the upper floors. It seems like the slope of the tower is suddenly a little bit more vertical at that point.
Any explanation for this?
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Old November 1st, 2016, 03:08 PM   #7311
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Old November 1st, 2016, 04:05 PM   #7312
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The only thing is that it seems like that's only noticeable through a fairly close-up perspective--one which can likely only be obtained through a camera lens. Unless people are trying to take close pictures of the top 1/4 or 1/3 of the tower specifically, it won't be apparent.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 04:35 PM   #7313
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Now that it's been pointed out, it becomes noticeable from any angle, and any distance.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 05:23 PM   #7314
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Now that it's been pointed out, it becomes noticeable from any angle, and any distance.
Sorry guys, I should've kept my mouth shut, but I needed to know if my eyes are just playing tricks on me or not. :/

Anyway, I don't understand the decision. First of all, the architect should make up his mind before building the structure! Second of all, a height increase of 50m is not worth ruining the aesthetics of the building.
I don't think it's really noticeable from the distance, but if you're looking up the building from a distance of 10-100m, it could be pretty apparent.
I also wonder why the tower's curve doesn't start from the base of the tower. Instead, it seems like the origin of the curve is at about 70m
Okay, I don't want to bash the tower, but I also don't like this weird balcony-like extension at the top of the tower. It's kinda misplaced and interrupts the geometry of the building.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 05:25 PM   #7315
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Spectacular piece of architecture. It looks like the Shard on steroids.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 05:40 PM   #7316
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The Shard has a radom-shaped floor plan. LWT has some aesthetic idea into it.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 06:50 PM   #7317
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Anyway, I don't understand the decision. First of all, the architect should make up his mind before building the structure! Second of all, a height increase of 50m is not worth ruining the aesthetics of the building.
Indeed, with that angle it could have made it up another 50 meters, only the top would be smaller. Now it almost has a bottle shape.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 07:39 PM   #7318
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If U donation some money then they would changed that to stone too
It's not that expensive actually. We got some public toilets with solid granite tables here.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 12:16 PM   #7319
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Apparently can see Songdo/Incheon from the top of LWT.
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About the "buckling": As you see above the cladding consists of elements in different angles.
Especially the lower part is curvy and the upper part is a straight line to the top.

The first ~70 floors are a huge giant curve and the rest is a straight line.
If you do a huge zoom like in Inno's photos, the huge curve seems really short and more extreme than it actually is and the transition to the long, straight part of the cladding appears more extreme.

I don't really mind it, as it is just a visual effect that appears if you zoom in from below, but its not that visible with the naked eye.

This effect is also increased by the special shape of several sections of the building,
where the cladding of the lower floors is very curvy and round and the higher floor walls become almost flat and short:



So if you take a zoomed in photo not in a straight line but from the lower left part to the top right part of the tower,
then the twist and transition in angles (vertically and horizontically) becomes even more visible.

Anyway, they should have done maybe the curve in the lower part of the building more decent.
The from some angles the tower looks a bit too fat down there...
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 04:04 PM   #7320
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the design is quite tacky (not limited to the restroom). It's done on purpose obviously, but you can't help but Wonder if this was the most appropriate creative direction for the decoration. This kind of design feels fairly Middle Easterner or indeed nouveau riche Chinese.

tacky?
I'm not sure whether it is tacky or not
but one thing is sure that LWT's public toilet is one of expensive public toilet.

especially compare with paris's public toilet. In there I need pay for entrance fee. But LWT tacky public toilet is free even bidet in there.
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