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Old March 14th, 2017, 06:07 AM   #7501
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Nightscape of Seoul seen from the Namhansanseong Fortress.

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Old March 14th, 2017, 04:34 PM   #7502
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it is pleasure to see many foreigners enjoy seoul city.
they are precious guest. we should welcome them
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Old March 15th, 2017, 04:33 PM   #7503
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Some more pics from the observation decks.
Public opening should be on March 22nd if I remember correctly.

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Old March 15th, 2017, 05:04 PM   #7504
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Yes, public opening of the observatory is scheduled for March 22nd, and the rest of the tower for April 3rd.

I'm thinking on going there on opening day on the 22nd! Can't wait.
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Old March 15th, 2017, 06:44 PM   #7505
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more than expect. So modern and clean
and look luxury.
someday we can see hyundai tower's observation deck each other

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Yes, public opening of the observatory is scheduled for March 22nd, and the rest of the tower for April 3rd.

I'm thinking on going there on opening day on the 22nd! Can't wait.
you should prepare 27000won
so expensive lotte.
also a lot of korean who afraid collapse lotte tower due to earth quake rush into observation deck for the purpsoe to check whether tower collapse or not. lol
so not good idea that opening day go there. lotte is going to cut entrance number by monitoring. you will be exhausted
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Old March 16th, 2017, 05:11 AM   #7506
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more than expect. So modern and clean
and look luxury.
someday we can see hyundai tower's observation deck each other



you should prepare 27000won
so expensive lotte.
also a lot of korean who afraid collapse lotte tower due to earth quake rush into observation deck for the purpsoe to check whether tower collapse or not. lol
so not good idea that opening day go there. lotte is going to cut entrance number by monitoring. you will be exhausted
I know the price, but whether I go there on the first day or not, it's all the same. I also know there should be a lot of people there, but since it's a weekday and since most Chinese tourists are nowhere to be found now, I might have a chance. In any case, I'll only go if the weather is good...

I'll post pictures when I get the opportunity to go up there, be it on the 22nd or not.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:45 AM   #7507
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Old March 20th, 2017, 02:51 PM   #7508
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It's been a long time since the last Mordor joke. Now is as good a time as any.
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Why is Asia so obsessed with MALLS?! They are really the most miserable, anti-urban, unsustainable places.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 07:00 PM   #7510
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Why is Asia so obsessed with MALLS?! They are really the most miserable, anti-urban, unsustainable places.
Malls arent a big problem in Seoul.

There are like only 5 major malls. COEX, Ipark Mall (only major mall located in Yongsan, the expat district), IFC Mall, Times Square.

And malls are usually intergrated into railway stations these independent tower malls are rare, Seoul is actually a very pedestrian friendly city, there are lots of high streets with the main high street being Myeongdong. The other being Itaewon which is an area where boutique stores, restaurants etc are all located in one area. There's also Shinchon and Hongdae sorta.

I would say that malls are becoming more of a problem in bigger African cities such as Nairobi (incl. Greater Nairobi) and Johannesburg (incl. the Gauteng Area) than Seoul where malls are in most cases integrated with Railway Stations (Ipark Mall Yongsan Station) and Bus terminals (Central City Mall)

There's also the Middle East where malls are a problem as well.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 09:11 PM   #7511
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It's been a long time since the last Mordor joke. Now is as good a time as any.
Bro Don't go to lwt for the purpose to see observation deck at tomorrow
cause open day delay to 2 april. due to elevator broken

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Why is Asia so obsessed with MALLS?! They are really the most miserable, anti-urban, unsustainable places.

I don't get it. why mall is so negative stuff? I think you have some deep philosophy about city your own. would you tell me?

Seoul is not asia but Far east Asia. Asia and far eat asia different.
now those countries leading world innovation and wealth in the global.

P.S according to the global data. Seoul's mall is one third size compared with USA.(per a population)
So now Seoul's mall expect more extend in market. seoul mall shortage.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 09:58 PM   #7512
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Bro Don't go to lwt for the purpose to see observation deck at tomorrow
cause open day delay to 2 april. due to elevator broken




I don't get it. why mall is so negative stuff? I think you have some deep philosophy about city your own. would you tell me?

Seoul is not asia but Far east Asia. Asia and far eat asia different.
now those countries leading world innovation and wealth in the global.

P.S according to the global data. Seoul's mall is one third size compared with USA.(per a population)
So now Seoul's mall expect more extend in market. seoul mall shortage.
Yep, I just read the news this morning. Unfortunately I won't be available for the grand opening on April 3rd, so I don't know exactly when I'll get to go there.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 06:47 AM   #7513
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Well, about this particular mall, I'd say it's less of a problem than the name "mall" suggests. This is surrounded by loads of residential areas, is nearby a bus station with local and express services, and two subway lines. Given that it's attached to a building which is bound to attract a lot of visitors (LWT), it should be perfectly sustainable from a business perspective.

Most retail districts in South Korea (and most of East Asia, even including Chinese cities) are, themselves, quite transit and pedestrian-friendly and, due to population density in urban centers, near residential areas, such that automobiles aren't necessarily associated with malls the way the are in (my own) American context--even though pedestrian-friendliness in between these distinct areas in East Asian cities isn't always great.

I'm not saying that more malls is better, but one or two here or there never hurt anyone. As long as they aren't god-awful strip malls or megaclusters surrounded by giant parking lots, I see no real reason to object to them. If the problem is the fact that it's usually only large chains that can afford to be in malls, I can kind of sympathize, but then, the Korean economy is built on enormous corporations, so...it does make sense, anyway.

I'm just speculating here, but it's possible that the rest of the complex attached to the tower was limited in height due to FAR restrictions, as Lotte already had to ask for an exception from the air force due to flight patterns from the base in Seongnam.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 07:32 PM   #7514
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fire work





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Old March 21st, 2017, 10:41 PM   #7515
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Why is Asia so obsessed with MALLS?! They are really the most miserable, anti-urban, unsustainable places.
Because during summer it can get hot unlike london which enjoys good weather all round. Cities in china, taiwan, hk, south east asian countries and dubai are very hot during summer hence walking in mall is a heaven compared to walking in pedestrian mall. Having alot of malls is a good thing as long as there is demand for it. Cities like singapore, jakarta, bangkok, KL and manila are so obsessed with malls because weather is 24/7 above 28 deg celcius
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 12:24 AM   #7516
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Old March 23rd, 2017, 03:32 AM   #7517
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30000 fire work burn at 2 sunday evening show.
longer than bruj kalipa fire work which 10 minute.
10000 free chair prepare on lwt park.
360 thousands dollar cost for show.
it will make ANNUALLY COUNT DOWN SHOW with fire work
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Old March 25th, 2017, 10:21 PM   #7518
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Malls are a good thing if they are integrated into the landscape and their surrounding, and they are safe, as some examples, particularly Sampoong Department Store have shown (thankfully this never happened again). Anyway let's not get too off topic here. I'm really excited for the opening of this tower, especially cannot wait to see the elevator show with the TV screens! Also, the observation balcony must be a great vantage point to see Seoul and the crown of the building. Does anyone know whether this observation deck or the hill on which the Seoul N Tower stands are higher?
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Old March 26th, 2017, 12:33 AM   #7519
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According to Wikipedia, Namsan is 262m, and according to Skyscraper Center, the observatory decks of Namsan Tower (I still won't call it "N Seoul Tower") are 136m, meaning an elevation of 398m. Lotte World Tower's observation deck, then is more than 100m higher.

This tower is the place from which to view the city .
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Old March 26th, 2017, 04:19 AM   #7520
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Malls are a good thing if they are integrated into the landscape and their surrounding, and they are safe, as some examples, particularly Sampoong Department Store have shown (thankfully this never happened again). Anyway let's not get too off topic here. I'm really excited for the opening of this tower, especially cannot wait to see the elevator show with the TV screens! Also, the observation balcony must be a great vantage point to see Seoul and the crown of the building. Does anyone know whether this observation deck or the hill on which the Seoul N Tower stands are higher?
I agreed that
I'm so exciting to look forward to see "Fire work show"

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According to Wikipedia, Namsan is 262m, and according to Skyscraper Center, the observatory decks of Namsan Tower (I still won't call it "N Seoul Tower") are 136m, meaning an elevation of 398m. Lotte World Tower's observation deck, then is more than 100m higher.

This tower is the place from which to view the city .
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