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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:43 PM   #1601
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To me it looks more similar to 2IFC in Hongkong or Marina 101 in Dubai
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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #1602
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lotte is round shape shard is triangle shape
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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #1603
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Still looks pretty much the same. It's just that Lotte tower has some awkward transition from vertical to tapering 1/4 of the way up and has curves, and a cone-shaped top instead of a pyramid one.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #1604
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As far as I know, this and the Shard were designed roughly around the same time, which makes copying unlikely. Someone has posted a timeline of the design before. Besides, there're really only two shared traits: they both narrow at the top and they both have open crowns.

We've had this discussion before.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #1605
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Still looks pretty much the same. It's just that Lotte tower has some awkward transition from vertical to tapering 1/4 of the way up and has curves, and a cone-shaped top instead of a pyramid one.
As aquaticko said we've had this discussion before.
In short these two tower is little bit resemble each other. Especially they both narrow at the top and open crown shape
But not really same design.

However lotte didn't copy shard. As like samsung gallaxy s didn't copy apple's ipad.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 09:52 PM   #1606
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You guys are really defensive for some reason...
These are the only two with an open top and narrowing that I know of, so that makes them look the same.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #1607
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You guys are really defensive for some reason...
These are the only two with an open top and narrowing that I know of, so that makes them look the same.
OK I admit it. I respect your opinions
However in my eyes shard is much more resemble with PYONGYANG Ryugyong Hotel than lotte.
Because Ryugyong have also narrowing at top and triangle shape
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:02 PM   #1608
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i can see similarities, butt don't think it looks similar really. but doesn't matter anyway. these are two beautiful buildings and from height they are two complete different leagues anyway.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:06 PM   #1609
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Yeah, those two look quite similar as well.
Maybe more so with TransAmerica Pyramid, though.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #1610
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i can see similarities, butt don't think it looks similar really. but doesn't matter anyway. these are two beautiful buildings and from height they are two complete different leagues anyway.
Exactly, i'm second thought I can not deny which lotte and shard, both are similiar each others.

Shard is epic landmark building in global city london. lotte shard all of them great landmarktower.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #1611
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Yeah, those two look quite similar as well.
OK I understand your opinions.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:22 PM   #1612
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Yeah, those two look quite similar as well.
Maybe more so with TransAmerica Pyramid, though.
Yup, in my opinion Shard and the Transamerica Pyramid are very similar to each other
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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #1613
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You guys are really defensive for some reason...
These are the only two with an open top and narrowing that I know of, so that makes them look the same.
Well, you accused the Koreans of copying, something that Korean companies are all-too-often accused of despite the fact that what they're accused of "copying" are things with hardpoints that reduce the amount of creativity that can be used without lessening functionality (cars, buildings, smartphones). I.e., Korean designs are called out for looking like everything else when, in fact, everything looks like everything else.

Nevermind that the tower was designed by KPF, an Atlanta-based firm.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:34 PM   #1614
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People accuse thousands of buildings of copying each other, yet I can't suggest it for this building?
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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:41 PM   #1615
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Well, you accused the Koreans of copying, something that Korean companies are all-too-often accused of despite the fact that what they're accused of "copying" are things with hardpoints that reduce the amount of creativity that can be used without lessening functionality (cars, buildings, smartphones). I.e., Korean designs are called out for looking like everything else when, in fact, everything looks like everything else.

Nevermind that the tower was designed by KPF, an Atlanta-based firm.

Correctly aquaticko. I remember that apple suggested samsung's gallaxy S as design copy of ipad. But that is wrong
Apple must apologizes to Samsung by england court.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...amsung-apology
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Old December 14th, 2012, 02:41 AM   #1616
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At this point we could also say that behind SWFC and 1WTC there is the same basic idea, developed in two different ways.
We also could say exactly the same about Egyptian and Aztec pyramids, but in this case is beyond any doubt that Aztecs and Ancien Egyptians didn't copied one from the other.......
Simply, there're good and rational ideas, and two good and rational minds can get to the same solution without being influenced by the other one.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 02:46 AM   #1617
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I don't think the Aztecs knew the Egyptians existed to copy ideas from, but it's easy to copy anything in modern days.
Even if they didn't copy Shard, we can agree they look quite similar.

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Old December 14th, 2012, 04:30 AM   #1618
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I don't think anyone here would deny that they look similar. But to say that Lotte Tower is a copy of the Shard is a different thing. And I imagine that most people react negatively to the idea of one tower (or whatever else) being a copy of another. Our response was hardly unusual, particularly when you consider that, as I said before, Koreans are often accused of copying others, which comes as a pain to national pride/credibility. You did, after all, say "South Korea's copying the Shard?", not Lotte or KPF.

No hard feelings, just trying to explain.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:01 AM   #1619
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These are the only two with an open top and narrowing that I know of, so that makes them look the same.
Not really, you have the cancelled Russia Tower in the same league. It tapers just like these two towers and has an open crown.

I don't think one copied another in this case. They just form a new league of designs that taper significantly towards the top.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:02 AM   #1620
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People accuse thousands of buildings of copying each other, yet I can't suggest it for this building?
You always throw in some conflicting posts, and sometimes they look all dumb and stupid. Try to scan your ideas and opinions before posting anything on the forums.
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